Subscriber Dan+ Posted April 10, 2017 Subscriber Posted April 10, 2017 That has got to be the end of the line for Wenger now. Surely.
Administrator Stan Posted April 10, 2017 Administrator Posted April 10, 2017 surely Wenger gets the boot now?!
Storts Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 What a thoroughly enjoyable evening's entertainment so far.
Panna King Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Stan said: surely Wenger gets the boot now?! He probably has already signed a new deal but shitting himself to annouce it.
Cicero Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dan said: That has got to be the end of the line for Wenger now. Surely. Nah mate. Two year deal.
Storts Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 Zaha really is turning into a quality player - I fear his price tag keeps getting higher and higher but would be a fantastic signing for us.
Administrator Stan Posted April 10, 2017 Administrator Posted April 10, 2017 Ozil just then. Got done.
Administrator Stan Posted April 10, 2017 Administrator Posted April 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Storts said: Zaha really is turning into a quality player - I fear his price tag keeps getting higher and higher but would be a fantastic signing for us. properly kicked on this season as opposed to a few goals and assists here and there. Much more consistent and I wonder how much Palace will hold out for him, if they sell at all.
Panna King Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 This is a real real low when a Big Sam team are taking the piss.
Administrator Stan Posted April 10, 2017 Administrator Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, VanPanna said: This is a real real low when a Big Sam team are taking the piss. and a team with Schlupp in it has easily beaten Arsenal. That's saying something.
Storts Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stan said: properly kicked on this season as opposed to a few goals and assists here and there. Much more consistent and I wonder how much Palace will hold out for him, if they sell at all. Yeah, far more consistency, can see he's their talisman. Everything goes through Zaha and he looks a class above at times. I was hoping we could get him for about £25 million but no chance now I don't think, will go for closer to £40 million I think.
Panna King Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 Arsenal are in a huge mess, no one knows if Wenger is staying as well as Ozil, Sanchez it has been the worst season for a very long time.
Pig on the Wing Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 Haha, fuck off Wenger. Had to be ugly boring Allardyce to stick the final nail in Wenger's coffin, just had to be. Delighted.
Chaaay AFC Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 This needs to put to an end now, enough is enough. There is no defending it anymore he is done and the board have to show some balls and finally get rid of him. Do it now, start to build for next season. There is not one footballing reason to keep this man on, he is totally past it and has been for a while now. Honestly it's not fun anymore it's a chore to watch this team full of boys, bunch of coddled babies who have no fight in them. I can't imagine having to watch another two years of this.
Dave Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 Seen us beat everybody now. Bring on The Championship!
Asura Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 Just leave wenger or pay back your salary to the fans in terms of ticket subsidy you stubborn old man
Panna King Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 Arsenal were even better when they had Bendtner, Gervinho, Denielson etc
Honey Honey Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 Arsenal fans getting angry that they might not be able to get knocked out of the champions league next season
Dave Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 Away from 'Wenger Out' I was really impressed how well structured and organised we were. Townsend and Zaha causing problems on the flanks, Puncheon pushing forward well, Benteke was moving around and both Luka and Cabaye have a real good fluidity with each other in the middle. Then of course at the back not even Sanchez would get past The Walking Armageddon that is Sakho. Very pleasing performance from our perspective.
Dave Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 41 minutes ago, Storts said: Zaha really is turning into a quality player - I fear his price tag keeps getting higher and higher but would be a fantastic signing for us. When you said you were hopeing to get him for 25 million the other week I did think that was very optimistic given we sold Yannick for 30 million the summer before. He's pushed on really well and I reckon he'd add something to what already is a great team at Spurs. Whilst I think It will only happen now if he pushes it I imagine we will lose either him or Andros this summer as neither want to play on the left hand side. Shame really as Big Sam is getting performances out of both of them now.
Storts Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Aaroncpfc said: When you said you were hopeing to get him for 25 million the other week I did think that was very optimistic given we sold Yannick for 30 million the summer before. He's pushed on really well and I reckon he'd add something to what already is a great team at Spurs. Whilst I think It will only happen now if he pushes it I imagine we will lose either him or Andros this summer as neither want to play on the left hand side. Shame really as Big Sam is getting performances out of both of them now. Definitely yeah - can see it being closer to 40 you hold out for. As you say though completely depends on if Zaha pushes for a move. In some ways it would be a great step up and he'd be a great fit for us, but on the other hand, he's playing the football of his life, at his club where he is the main talisman and to continue his development he could be better served having another year there. The game at your place in a couple of weeks will be tricky
LFCMadLad Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Chaaay AFC said: Trust me mate it's not getting worse than this, people can keep deluding themselves into thinking we will fall apart without Wenger I guarantee we won't. 3-0, I wouldn't be against sacking the man now, time to go. Im not saying Arsenal will fall apart because of losing Arsene Wenger, I'm saying the Arsenal board 'could' look for a like for like manager that operates similar to Wenger and if they do then results on the pitch, the development of players, the recruitment etc could possibly get worse than what they are now.
SirBalon Posted April 10, 2017 Posted April 10, 2017 I don't know what to say and I'm left without words to describe what I feel to be honest. We're not and never have been in the past recent seasons one of the best sides in the division. We've been sold that at times by the media and many Arsenal fans have believed it and probably some continue to do so. But we're not this bad and in saying this I don't want to take anything away from Crystal Palace's performance today because it was brilliant and how they've been in the position they have is beyond me. They have a more than just decent side when comparing to where they've been sitting most of the season in the table. Nobody can say that the Arsenal players didn't want it and infact they were playing by over revving most of the time which leads to not using your brain and making massive errors. The commitment was there and I'm not about to believe they've thrown any games in recent times and certainly not today. One of the main jobs for a coach (manager in our case) is the preparation of the team mentally and conditioning them to understand what stands before them. Modern football has many coaches in training these days and even when the head coach/manager does attend the training sessions it's mostly to over see what the players put into their sessions as individuals. Most coaches actually pick players for a match these days based more on what's going on in training with the training staff itself than what their form is on match days. Just to put a Premier League example that comes straight to mind, we have Troy Deeney at Watford who's been dropped by head coach Walter Mazzarri due to his lack of commitment in training... Now with this example I'm not saying that Mazzarri is right in Deeney's case, just wanting to use an actual example of how this actually occurs. It happens everywhere in every league in the world these days with the very few exceptions of exceptional players that pick themselves due to how great they are. The coach has to prepare so many things for a match day and have every aspect drawn out in his mind before he implements it to his training staff so as to put it into practice. The coach is there to head the job and attract the respect of the players to perform on the day itself. Wenger seems to be failing in this and maybe the reasons are that most of the players know they're gonna be playing and they feel comfortable in that aspect and then comes the lack of confidence due to another season gone by the wasteside and feeling that there's probably nothing to play for. That's what Sam Allardyce got right today and the Palace players outperformed their rival in one term and one term alone... Not commitment! They won by playing the game, playing football with their heads. Arsenal like I said at the start of this over long post, lost their heads in terms of not thinking and probably feeling that things just had to click at some point. That doesn't occur where humans virus humans are concerned... This isn't a PlayStation FIFA game where some players are much better than others point blank! That whatever occurs, those players are just simply better and that's it. The greatest players can be there and not perform and the reasons that happens is because they haven't prepared themselves correctly for the day and the reason for that is because the head coach didn't do his job properly. Yeah, the rival has a big part to play, but both being prepared correctly wouldn't see a 3-0 scoreline. Well done to Crystal Palace although on their part, that's the way they have to play every week and not just at moments like these. But then again they won't be playing a shambles like Arsenal every week in the Premier League.
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