Danny 2,207 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Imagine you are black and you are casually scrolling through various topics on a football forum because you fancy a chat about football and see that some bellend has repeatedly thrown the n word out without any thought for anyone who’s day that might fuck up regardless of the context it’s been used in simply so he can win an argument that he has made up in his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, DeadLinesman said: You on a windup? Nope. Weird rule but that was the rule last I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,390 Posted February 3, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, Devil-Dick Willie said: On the line is outside the box. No it's not. The line is with the attacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,276 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 #thatwormphil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Stan said: No it's not. The line is with the attacker. Must have changed it since 2011 then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold 599 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Did Martial really dive for a penalty at 7-0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, Burning Gold said: Did Martial really dive for a penalty at 7-0? Yes he did. I even called it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,390 Posted February 3, 2021 Author Administrator Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Burning Gold said: Did Martial really dive for a penalty at 7-0? Yes. Disappointing 2 referees couldn't come to the conclusion he did. Was embarrassing all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse_Mouse 111 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, ToonFan said: Except the kneel is the specific symbol of the Black Lives Matter organisation. There was a million anti-racist gestures they could have chosen that long predate the kneel, but they still kneel. I don't care what they call it it's BLM support. At the risk of being called an American who thinks he knows everything again, you do know why taking a knee has become a symbol right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,192 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said: "[Racist shit that @Dr. Gonzo censored]" A regular chant from the Stretford end in 1980s. This club are not what the bbc want you to think they are. Fucking hell, don't do shit like what I've just censored from that post. It's a weird argument too. Why are you holding the Salford club in the 1980s to the same standard as it faces in 2021? In the 80s there was a club that constantly called us "N****rpool"... and threw bananas at John Barnes - strangely, it was another Merseyside club and not a Manchester club. Also football had a noted racism problem in the 1980s. I think it STILL DOES tbh, but it was notably worse in the 80s all around the country. But we're also not in 1980. And anyway, accusing many people on here of racism for points scoring is a bit weird unless they're actually posting racist shit. There hasn't been much support for overt racism on here and whenever it's been presented, it's been called out fairly quickly IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse_Mouse 111 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Burning Gold said: Did Martial really dive for a penalty at 7-0? There's a quote about a leopard not changing his spots somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Nope. Weird rule but that was the rule last I checked. I think it wasn’t given because they said contact was on the ankle which wasn’t on the line, although his toes were. If it’s on the line though, it’s a peno as far as I’m aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,192 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Danny said: Imagine you are black and you are casually scrolling through various topics on a football forum because you fancy a chat about football and see that some bellend has repeatedly thrown the n word out without any thought for anyone who’s day that might fuck up regardless of the context it’s been used in simply so he can win an argument that he has made up in his head. And this, @The Artful Dodger is exactly why you can't just fucking post shit like that. You know better, I know you do. Cmon lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse_Mouse 111 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said: There hasn't been much support for overt racism on here and whenever it's been presented, it's been called out fairly quickly IMO. I haven't been here long but ffs to listen to some of the stuff on here you'd think the place was full of racists and racist apologists? I just don't get that impression at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Had Dodger called Deadlinesman a sack of wine vs a worm I would’ve collapsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,012 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: And this, @The Artful Dodger is exactly why you can't just fucking post shit like that. You know better, I know you do. Cmon lad. Ban the racist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold 599 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Stan said: Yes. Disappointing 2 referees couldn't come to the conclusion he did. Was embarrassing all round. The barrier for VAR calling a dive a dive is so high it's ridiculous. Diving caused a massive controversy in the 2000s and it's gotten worse if anything, but now we finally have the tool to eradicate it, the authorities don't seem to care. Even when it does get called correctly on VAR, it goes unpunished, so there's no reason not to try it from a player's point of view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,192 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Panna King said: Ban the racist! He’s not racist, he quoted racists. He’s been given an official warning and been very publicly warned, just now. And the other guy who was actually being a racist HAS been banned and the thread has been largely sanitised. 9 minutes ago, Scouse_Mouse said: I haven't been here long but ffs to listen to some of the stuff on here you'd think the place was full of racists and racist apologists? I just don't get that impression at all It isn’t. And if someone is being racist, homophobic, bigoted & you report it to staff, it will be dealt with fairly quickly. This is a place for all kinds of football fans around the world, so as long as everyone plays nice with each other things are pleasant here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,012 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: He’s not racist, he quoted racists. He’s been given an official warning and been very publicly warned, just now. And the other guy who was actually being a racist HAS been banned and the thread has been largely sanitised. It isn’t. And if someone is being racist, homophobic, bigoted & you report it to staff, it will be dealt with fairly quickly. This is a place for all kinds of football fans around the world, so as long as everyone plays nice with each other things are pleasant here. This guy is mentality unstable, he just shouts racist to people. To try and win an argument that way, which has been made up in his head. The things that have been said are unacceptable on any platform, a warning is simply not good enough. I will not be returning to this platform from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 That escalated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,276 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I mean, how many chances does one person get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,192 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Panna King said: This guy is mentality unstable, he just shouts racist to people. To try and win an argument that way, which has been made up in his head. The things that have been said are unacceptable on any platform, a warning is simply not good enough. I will not be returning to this platform from now on. I 100% agree with you that what was said was unacceptable on any platform (at least online) and that's why it's been removed. I do think context matters and it's categorically undeniable he was not glorifying racist views. I do think he was having an argument with... nobody really... just the "anti-Liverpool mods" (and I'm probably the most biased pro-Liverpool poster on here... and I'm a mod ) and he's crossed a line that's really unjustifiable because... he's not arguing with anyone. But even in the context of the argument he was having with nobody, he wasn't saying anything pro-racist - if anything his point was that racism is bad and standing by racists is bad. That sentiment is probably something most of us agree with - racism is bad and standing by racists is bad. It's just the way he said it was 1.) unnecessary and inflammatory; 2.) unnecessary because it was an argument against nobody. That's just my opinion, but I'm just one mod who was acting quick. I think we've probably got rules on what to do and I probably should go look those up and follow through with that. I also do think that the community as a whole should set the standard for what's acceptable - so if anyone disagrees with what I've done you can let me/the rest of the staff know. Perhaps via PM though, so as not to further derail this thread. It's just a shame United can score 9 goals in one match and that's not the thing I'm most upset about in the match thread on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cazza said: Sorry can anyone point me in the direction of the Man Utd vs Southampton match thread please as I'm lost..... Too late. You need to get here before last orders on a match day UK time to have a civilised discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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