Cicero Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 EXCL: Chelsea plan to offer Timo Werner + cash for de Ligt. The Blues prepare to offer around €25-30m + Werner, but it is seen as too little for Juventus, they want more money. De Ligt is keen on a move to Chelsea and Werner is a keen on a move to Juve. With @DiMarzio https://t.co/VMD5bc1aj0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 "Nice try, we'll take the 30 mil only thanks." Said a juventus spokesperson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Incredibly overrated - been poor in Italy. One of those players that got a reputation early because they came through so young and were fully developed but hasn’t really kicked on at all. Seems to make a mistake every time I watch him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Dutch players who did well in Eiredivisie have often struggled abroad. i feel Dutch players are always a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Storts said: Incredibly overrated - been poor in Italy. One of those players that got a reputation early because they came through so young and were fully developed but hasn’t really kicked on at all. Seems to make a mistake every time I watch him He is also 22, athletic, good at scoring, and great using the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Spike said: He is also 22, athletic, good at scoring, and great using the ball. All well and good but if you can’t defend you’re in trouble. Will be eaten alive in the Premier league. Same as Pau Torres imo if he comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Storts said: All well and good but if you can’t defend you’re in trouble. Will be eaten alive in the Premier league. Same as Pau Torres imo if he comes But he can defend, every player makes mistakes. People love Antonio Rudiger but he makes mistakes. So does Trent Alexander-Arnold, so do all players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, Spike said: But he can defend, every player makes mistakes. People love Antonio Rudiger but he makes mistakes. So does Trent Alexander-Arnold, so do all players. Agree to disagree. De Ligt is massively overrated imo. Been a real disappointment for Juventus and would struggle in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Spike said: But he can defend, every player makes mistakes. People love Antonio Rudiger but he makes mistakes. So does Trent Alexander-Arnold, so do all players. If Spurs had signed him Storts would have been offering free hand jobs all round for a week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bluewolf said: If Spurs had signed him Storts would have been offering free hand jobs all round for a week... 'He is from Juventus so this is obviously Conte's influence with his good relationship with the Juventus board even though they hate eachother but this is mutually beneficial and will result in Harry Kane scoring more goals' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted June 26, 2022 Author Share Posted June 26, 2022 He won Juve’s player of the season last season so not sure how he’s been a real disappointment. We wanted Rudiger and Christensen gone before Tuchel. Rudiger then turned into one of the best CBs on the planet and Christensen was being called the Danish Maldini by our fans. Excited to see what he can do with de Ligt should he come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 Juventus have given the 'OK' for Timo Werner being part of the negotiations for Chelsea to sign Matthijs De Ligt. There is still distance for the agreement, but Chelsea are convinced they can close the deal. - @86_longo https://t.co/gy4N31QJ7f pic.twitter.com/dUZnpONgi4 — Simon Phillips (@siphillipssport) June 27, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 On 25/06/2022 at 14:23, Storts said: Agree to disagree. De Ligt is massively overrated imo. Been a real disappointment for Juventus and would struggle in the PL. I think out of the many problems Juve currently have, De Ligt is probably a pretty small problem they've had. He's got all the raw attributes to be a top defender - and having 77 appearances for Ajax and 87 appearances for Juve at 22 isn't really indicative that he's been a huge disappointment. He's still got a long way til his peak years and defenders are a position where experience is really vital and younger CBs, regardless of how promising they are, typically do make silly mistakes more often than the more seasoned pros. I think if he comes to the premier league, he'll probably do quite well - especially in the right setup, and I think Tuchel's tactics would suit a defender with the qualities he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 The legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnivore Chris Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 On 25/06/2022 at 23:23, Storts said: Agree to disagree. De Ligt is massively overrated imo. Been a real disappointment for Juventus and would struggle in the PL. Yeah, but you're getting Lenglet by the looks of it. I'd rather have @DeadLinesman in defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 On 28/06/2022 at 02:25, Aladdin said: The legit de ligt deez nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Unless he is unwilling to stay at Juventus, they should not even be thinking of selling him. And even then, it's going to have to be at least a bid close to what they paid for him three years ago. De Ligt is already one of the best defenders in the world, and has the maturity to be a captain for the club (and potentially his country) in the future. WIth Chiellini leaving there is a massive void to fill, on and off the pitch, and I don't see why the man they brought into fill that void would be let go at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 So this news changes things then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Should move to Germany for a proper challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 Need to learn to not posting stuff from Simon Phillips. Reports suggesting Juve only want Jorginho or Pulisic included in the deal + cash for de Ligt (Ben Jacobs). Pulisic the most likely to leave the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 On 25/06/2022 at 22:23, Storts said: Agree to disagree. De Ligt is massively overrated imo. Been a real disappointment for Juventus and would struggle in the PL. He was very poor in patches of the season, mostly because he was played on the left side of defence, he is incredibly awkward on that side that makes him look extremely clumsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 On 25/06/2022 at 15:49, OrangeKhrush said: Dutch players who did well in Eiredivisie have often struggled abroad. i feel Dutch players are always a gamble. Depends who you are buying and where they go to, a lot of Dutch players jump at the chance to play for most clubs in England even though it might not be the right suited club but moved due to the wages they will receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 On 26/06/2022 at 14:21, Cicero said: He won Juve’s player of the season last season so not sure how he’s been a real disappointment. We wanted Rudiger and Christensen gone before Tuchel. Rudiger then turned into one of the best CBs on the planet and Christensen was being called the Danish Maldini by our fans. Excited to see what he can do with de Ligt should he come Ake is linked also, if De Ligt is played on his preferable side he will be great, I think the move to Italy was a mistake that people told him but due to his agents connections he was always going to end up in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 51 minutes ago, Panna King said: Depends who you are buying and where they go to, a lot of Dutch players jump at the chance to play for most clubs in England even though it might not be the right suited club but moved due to the wages they will receive. i would agree we have had siem de jong, wjineldum and Anita most recently and now Botman. Gigi was by far the only success to date. jenmaat did well and Kluivert was at the end of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, OrangeKhrush said: i would agree we have had siem de jong, wjineldum and Anita most recently and now Botman. Gigi was by far the only success to date. jenmaat did well and Kluivert was at the end of his career. I think it’s a Newcastle problem not a Dutch problem You know what other nationality struggles in the Premier League? English players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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