Dr. Gonzo 8,187 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Stan said: Who will start the first game at the Euros then? Henderson, Pickford or Pope? I think you've got to go with Pickford. Henderson's been good this season, but he's also had a few fuckups like Pickford. It just doesn't get the same press because one's a kid and the other is the England #1 keeper. Pope's only good at shot stopping, but there's more to being a keeper than that. Maybe if we set England up like Burnley… but does anyone actually want that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 50 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I think you've got to go with Pickford. Henderson's been good this season, but he's also had a few fuckups like Pickford. It just doesn't get the same press because one's a kid and the other is the England #1 keeper. Pope's only good at shot stopping, but there's more to being a keeper than that. Maybe if we set England up like Burnley… but does anyone actually want that? Burnley would probably nick a result against England tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted February 11, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted February 11, 2020 My West Ham mates rave about Rice. But they're utter pony as a team, so it's hard to say. They're convinced he's heading to City though. Personally never been impressed. Dier was equally as good and had the same hype when he broke through as a defender playing DM...and look where he is now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Storts said: My West Ham mates rave about Rice. But they're utter pony as a team, so it's hard to say. They're convinced he's heading to City though. Personally never been impressed. Dier was equally as good and had the same hype when he broke through as a defender playing DM...and look where he is now. Feel like he’s alright in the tackle but too heavy footed on the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,187 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Danny said: Burnley would probably nick a result against England tbh Yeah probably, because they're a well drilled club that's playing in the top flight and the England side's a collection of players - some of whom are very familiar with each other - but that mostly have to learn a system and implement it in a short amount of time. I'd expect most top flight sides in most good leagues to be able to beat most international sides tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,651 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 23 hours ago, Danny said: Burnley would probably nick a result against England tbh Eh? That’s a weird one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,651 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Pickford will get the number one jersey for England and rightly so, at this stage. He’s been more than reliable for England and has had to deal with playing behind a back four that marked zones. Given time at Everton under Ancelotti, I think he’ll be fine and he’s right in what he said about the media being on your back as an England International. Sterling was the media scapegoat, everyone called them out for their closet racism and they eventually found Pickford as their next target. No doubt they’ll move on to someone else soon enough. That said, I’d be tempted to give Henderson a game in one of the two upcoming Friendlies. I know you should be starting to think about your starting XI for the Euros but there’s two games in four days next month and you’ve still got three games prior to the first group game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) What we looking at when fit for the Euros? Feel like Grealish don’t make the team if that front four are fit and Maddison could operate a lot deeper more effectively Kane - Rashford Sterling ———————Sancho Maddison - Henderson Chilwell - Maguire - Gomez - Trent Pickford Edited February 12, 2020 by Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,918 Posted February 12, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) I'm not totally sold that Maddison could play that role. It's different playing there for Leicester when you've got Ndidi behind you but I could see that side having 5+ goals in every single game. We'd score loads and let in loads. At least one of Kane or Rashford will be rushed back and flop. I'm sure of it. I'm actually really quite stumped to be honest because of the holding midfielder situation. I'm nowhere near sold on Rice but I'm not sure we can afford to not play him either. I do feel like now you need a brilliant holding midfielder to achieve anything and we've not really got one. Some are saying Rice could be one but I'm not sold personally. He's hard to judge. As stated - playing in a fucking god awful side. Choudhury's your next best bet and I'm not totally confident with him there for us to be honest, so I'm not hugely keen. He's looking at Harvey Barnes for the squad apparently. I think it's too soon but he's finally starting to hit some form. Edited February 12, 2020 by Dan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 56 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said: Pickford will get the number one jersey for England and rightly so, at this stage. He’s been more than reliable for England and has had to deal with playing behind a back four that marked zones. Given time at Everton under Ancelotti, I think he’ll be fine and he’s right in what he said about the media being on your back as an England International. Sterling was the media scapegoat, everyone called them out for their closet racism and they eventually found Pickford as their next target. No doubt they’ll move on to someone else soon enough. That said, I’d be tempted to give Henderson a game in one of the two upcoming Friendlies. I know you should be starting to think about your starting XI for the Euros but there’s two games in four days next month and you’ve still got three games prior to the first group game. Is Pickford getting an exceptionally hard time from the press? Genuine question as I don't really read any of the papers anymore. From what I've seen he's drawing criticise for poor form, which is surely the fairest way to measure a footballer? Obviously playing for the England national team is going to draw closer scrutiny, but that's not unfair it's the nature of playing at a high profile level. I've not seen anything which has been unfair in the way he's been talked about, especially in comparison with Sterling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, Danny said: What we looking at when fit for the Euros? Feel like Grealish don’t make the team if that front four are fit and Maddison could operate a lot deeper more effectively Kane - Rashford Sterling ———————Sancho Maddison - Henderson Chilwell - Maguire - Gomez - Trent Pickford Barkley has looked best for us playing deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted February 12, 2020 Administrator Share Posted February 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, Danny said: What we looking at when fit for the Euros? Feel like Grealish don’t make the team if that front four are fit and Maddison could operate a lot deeper more effectively Kane - Rashford Sterling ———————Sancho Maddison - Henderson Chilwell - Maguire - Gomez - Trent Pickford Like @Dan I don't think Maddison is as good in the deeper role as he is & could be in the attacking midfielder role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 54 minutes ago, Danny said: What we looking at when fit for the Euros? Feel like Grealish don’t make the team if that front four are fit and Maddison could operate a lot deeper more effectively Kane - Rashford Sterling ———————Sancho Maddison - Henderson Chilwell - Maguire - Gomez - Trent Pickford That would be a mad set up against anyone half decent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, LFCMike said: That would be a mad set up against anyone half decent Yeah in fairness Maddison central was probably a bit too full on but someone else defensive alongside Henderson and I reckon that’s a team that would cause counter attacking problems all over the place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,187 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, Danny said: Yeah in fairness Maddison central was probably a bit too full on but someone else defensive alongside Henderson and I reckon that’s a team that would cause counter attacking problems all over the place Only if Kane and Rashford are fully fit. I think the last CL final is a good reason to make sure we're not rushing Kane back for a final. He was absolutely anonymous in that final. We can't have that happening in the group stages of this tournament or we'll go out pretty quickly I think. Brilliant player when he's fit, and I can understand why he wants to play the big games and be in tournaments, but for his sake (for his career's longevity) and for our sake (because seeing England do well is pretty cool) if he's not fully fit I don't think he should be starting. Likewise with Rashford, who might be a Manc… but I actually feel pretty bad for him for what he's had to go through this season. Going through much of the season as the real bright light of Man Utd's season, being asked to play with a back fracture... and then getting a double back fracture as a result. He's still young, let the kid heal. I think I'd go with something like this - but I don't know if I'd start Ings or Abraham up front, but I think Ings is better (but maybe not for this system), so I'm throwing him in here. Pickford TAA - Gomez - Maguire - Chilwell Henderson - Winks(?) -Alex-Oxlade Chamberlain Sancho - Ings - Sterling I think when everyone's healthy, the back 4 picks itself really. I went with the Ox in midfield because he's been in pretty decent form lately, meanwhile Maddison's dropped off a bit & Grealish I think should be in the squad most likely... but I'm not sure if he's ready to be starting for England. At Villa the side's built around him because he's their best player - England aren't going to do that for him just because he's Villa's best player. Sancho & Sterling, if healthy, are going to be the starters and rightly so. Ings in because he's having a good season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,651 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, The Artful Dodger said: Is Pickford getting an exceptionally hard time from the press? Genuine question as I don't really read any of the papers anymore. From what I've seen he's drawing criticise for poor form, which is surely the fairest way to measure a footballer? Obviously playing for the England national team is going to draw closer scrutiny, but that's not unfair it's the nature of playing at a high profile level. I've not seen anything which has been unfair in the way he's been talked about, especially in comparison with Sterling. Didn’t they try and pin a grainy video filmed on what looked like an iPhone 2 on him smashing people’s heads in in Sunderland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 @Dr. Gonzo that was a fully fit eleven...if Kane and Rashford are unfit then I’d probably go Sterling - Vardy - Sancho Grealish/Maddison/Ox Winks - Henderson Chilwell - Maguire - Gomez - TAA Pickford No idea who I’d play in the attacking mid position tbh, I think Vardy would come out of retirement if were relying on Danny Ings (who’s decent, but Vardy is much better obviously) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,187 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Danny said: @Dr. Gonzo that was a fully fit eleven...if Kane and Rashford are unfit then I’d probably go Sterling - Vardy - Sancho Grealish/Maddison/Ox Winks - Henderson Chilwell - Maguire - Gomez - TAA Pickford No idea who I’d play in the attacking mid position tbh, I think Vardy would come out of retirement if were relying on Danny Ings (who’s decent, but Vardy is much better obviously) I think Vardy said he's not going to unretire even if Kane's out. But otherwise, I think our sides are pretty similar. I think the big questions are: who plays as the most advanced midfielder in that central 3? And who plays next to Henderson (even though we've both said Winks)? But I think otherwise (and the striker situation, which I suppose we'll have a better idea of what we'll be seeing with England closer to the summer)… the rest of the side sort of picks itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,651 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 England v Romania is to be played at Villa Park on Sunday 7th June, 6.15pm kick off. Tempted by this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael 1,117 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 On 14/02/2020 at 19:10, Smiley Culture said: England v Romania is to be played at Villa Park on Sunday 7th June, 6.15pm kick off. Tempted by this. Do you live in the West Midlands? How come you support Koln? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Pickford James Gomez Maguire Chilwell TAA Henderson Grealish Sancho Vardy Sterling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted February 24, 2020 Administrator Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cicero said: Pickford James Gomez Maguire Chilwell TAA Henderson Grealish Sancho Vardy Sterling Why Vardy? He won't come out of retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cicero said: Pickford James Gomez Maguire Chilwell TAA Henderson Grealish Sancho Tammy Sterling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ 2,424 Posted February 24, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted February 24, 2020 Kane will be available for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Cicero said: Pickford James Gomez Maguire Chilwell TAA Henderson Grealish Sancho Kane Sterling I think England should really utilise the creativity they have. They’ve lacked creative players, particularly in midfield, for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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