What's in your diet?

[Danny]

3 hours ago, Spike said:

The vegan diet is very risky and not something I'd recommend. In losing protein from meats, you have to up the amounts of nuts and legumes, which contain huge amounts of fat and oil. Also, soy in particular unless fermented is very bad for humans.

Don't you worry mate I won't be losing meat, just cutting down on meat I don't need to eat.

[Spike]

16 minutes ago, Danny said:

Don't you worry mate I won't be losing meat, just cutting down on meat I don't need to eat.

 Just didn't want to hear about you ending up in the ER due to malnutrition.

[Bluebird Hewitt]

1 hour ago, Spike said:

 Just didn't want to hear about you ending up in the ER due to malnutrition.

I was more concerned that turning to a vegan diet could make @Danny follow the path of the stuck up cunt. 

[Spike]

16 minutes ago, Bluebird Hewitt said:

I was more concerned that turning to a vegan diet could make @Danny follow the path of the stuck up cunt. 

I just didnt want to say it that way!

[Cicero]

10 hours ago, Spike said:

Eggs don't raise the risk of heart disease. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160211083044.htm

Yes, it does. 

Eggs contain high levels of saturated fat, to which increases cholesterol serum levels. The average dietary cholesterol an individual needs the maximum per day, is 300mg. One egg yolk is 184 mg. This especially puts individuals who have cardiovascular issues or a family history of heart attacks in great risk. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9001684

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10704618

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2125600

 

[Honey Honey]

I read somewhere that it depends on your genetics. Some people can eat eggs and their cholesterol doesn't change, others it goes up. 

[Spike]

9 minutes ago, Cicero said:

Yes, it does. 

Eggs contain high levels of saturated fat, to which increases cholesterol serum levels. The average dietary cholesterol an individual needs the maximum per day, is 300mg. One egg yolk is 184 mg. This especially puts individuals who have cardiovascular issues or a family history of heart attacks in great risk. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9001684

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10704618

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2125600

 

So from what I read, 'it can' not 'it does'. When there is conflicting studies it obviously comes down to the control groups. There are many inconclusive studies on eggs.

Harvard for instance disagrees with your sources: https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/are-eggs-risky-for-heart-health

[Harry]

 the most uncommon thing about my diet would be the amount of milk i drink. About 3 tall glasses a day plus 1 to 2 of coffee. 

 

[Cicero]

2 minutes ago, Spike said:

So from what I read, 'it can' not 'it does'. When there is conflicting studies it obviously comes down to the control groups. There are many inconclusive studies on eggs.

Harvard for instance disagrees with your sources: https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/are-eggs-risky-for-heart-health

It does raise your serum levels, to which you can get a heart attack.

It's not just eggs though, it's cholesterol in general. LDL cholesterol to be more specific, to which egg yolks are filled with. The studies i have posted show that the increase consumption of LDL cholesterol, increases plasma and LDL oxidization, and can lead to atherosclerosis. Which Is why i stated that those with already cardiovascular issues and a history of family heart problems are at great risk.  

Also, you gave me a source in which I have to give my email and pay $4.99 a month, just to view the info and studies from I'm assuming one individual? 

[Spike]

15 minutes ago, Cicero said:

It does raise your serum levels, to which you can get a heart attack.

It's not just eggs though, it's cholesterol in general. LDL cholesterol to be more specific, to which egg yolks are filled with. The studies i have posted show that the increase consumption of LDL cholesterol, increases plasma and LDL oxidization, and can lead to atherosclerosis. Which Is why i stated that those with already cardiovascular issues and a history of family heart problems are at great risk.  

Also, you gave me a source in which I have to give my email and pay $4.99 a month, just to view the info and studies from I'm assuming one individual? 

It's Harvard one of the best schools in the world . You can't just waive information and sources because it doesn't fit with your view. Sorry, Cicero while you have posted fair sources, the fact that counter sources are abundant means I will stay on the fence on this issue. Just because you say so doesn't mean I will disregard Havard and the University of Finland's reports for favouring that Israeli University.

Here is another: https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/138/2/272/4664988

Using a controlled low-carb, and high-egg diet that study found that LDL levels remained the same and HDL levels increased.

[Cicero]

12 minutes ago, Spike said:

It's Harvard one of the best schools in the world . You can't just waive information and sources because it doesn't fit with your view. Sorry, Cicero while you have posted fair sources, the fact that counter sources are abundant means I will stay on the fence on this issue. Just because you say so doesn't mean I will disregard Havard and the University of Finland's reports for favouring that Israeli University.

Here is another: https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/138/2/272/4664988

Using a controlled low-carb, and high-egg diet that study found that LDL levels remained the same and HDL levels increased.

I'm waiving the information not because of the source, but because i have to pay $4.99 a month just to view the article 

Also, the source you put down also took the data of individuals eating egg substitutes. To which egg substitues have an incredibly low amount of cholesterol (sometimes even none given the brand) compared to the regular egg yolk. Also the data makes no sense, aside the fact they are taking into account egg substitues, why are they claiming their findings are showing LDL cholesterol remaind the same, when in fact they have increased almost 17mg after 12 weeks? 

Again, this just goes back to my initial argument that foods with high levels of saturated fat raises serum cholesterol levels. 

[Panna King]

Well Ronaldo eats eggs, and look at his body  

 

[Cicero]

1 minute ago, VanPaddy said:

Well Ronaldo eats eggs, and look at his body  

 

He also has a strict healthy diet that includes a lot of fiber and carbohydrates. Things that fight off cholesterol. 

[Panna King]

Just now, Cicero said:

He also has a strict healthy diet that includes a lot of fiber and carbohydrates. Things that fight off cholesterol. 

Yes , I am coping it for the next 3 months for my beach body when I go to Barcelona. 

[Lucas]

On ‎01‎/‎05‎/‎2018 at 07:16, Danny said:

Don't you worry mate I won't be losing meat, just cutting down on meat I don't need to eat.

Good man. All about the clunge anyway mate.

[Cicero]

I mean I have nothing against veganism, considering it's hard to argue against it on an ethical and nutrition standpoint, but we've come so far as a species where we've made animals a commodity. 

I can't live without steak, tenderloin,  and chicken. Well, i'm pretty sure I can,  but I don't want to. 

[Azeem]

On 01/05/2018 at 18:43, Harry said:

 the most uncommon thing about my diet would be the amount of milk i drink. About 3 tall glasses a day plus 1 to 2 of coffee. 

 

Do you find it odd that adults don't drink breast milk ? Has there been any research that wether its good or not ? 

[Danny]

About to dig into a meatball, mozzarella and tomato sauce sandwich with a side helping of pourine. Diet, what diet???

[Toinho]

2 hours ago, Danny said:

About to dig into a meatball, mozzarella and tomato sauce sandwich with a side helping of pourine. Diet, what diet???

I had pizza for breakfast. 

[Danny]

4 hours ago, Toinho said:

I had pizza for breakfast. 

Meant Poutine haha, but decent I like it. Just had burger and chips for lunch in a fancy hotel in central Auckland.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I've been trying to have less carbs. Which is a bit shit because if you're actually counting the nutritional values, there might be a day where I eat a baked potato and then I'll want a beer (or 4) later that evening and I have to think "oh shit, can't have too much beer or that's too many carbs." And when I say "I have to think" that... I mean, my fiancé will tell me that I can't have too much beer or its too many carbs.

Those zucchini noodles you can make are a good carb substitute if you like pasta and want to eat some fucking spaghetti without worrying about those carbs.

But lately I've been eating just a lot of meat and fish, with some steamed veggies on the side. Good stuff & easy to make.

[Cicero]

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I've been trying to have less carbs. Which is a bit shit because if you're actually counting the nutritional values, there might be a day where I eat a baked potato and then I'll want a beer (or 4) later that evening and I have to think "oh shit, can't have too much beer or that's too many carbs." And when I say "I have to think" that... I mean, my fiancé will tell me that I can't have too much beer or its too many carbs.

Those zucchini noodles you can make are a good carb substitute if you like pasta and want to eat some fucking spaghetti without worrying about those carbs.

But lately I've been eating just a lot of meat and fish, with some steamed veggies on the side. Good stuff & easy to make.

Why are you afraid of carbs mate? 

[Dr. Gonzo]

1 hour ago, Cicero said:

Why are you afraid of carbs mate? 

I'm not afraid of them so much as my fiance is, personally I love carbs. Pizza, pasta and beer are 3 of my favourite things. She wants us nice and skinny for wedding pictures, so we've been reducing our carb intake significantly.

[Cicero]

22 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I'm not afraid of them so much as my fiance is, personally I love carbs. Pizza, pasta and beer are 3 of my favourite things. She wants us nice and skinny for wedding pictures, so we've been reducing our carb intake significantly.

 Being in a caloric deficit makes you lose weight, not eating less carbs.  Both protein and carbs have 4 calories per gram. Fat has 9 calories. 

If you want efficient weight loss, all you need to worry about is being in a caloric deficit. Dont take away your precious carbs 

[Toinho]

There's a lot of evidence to suggest high fat low carb diets are best for losing weight... 

Calories are controversial, It's impossible to burn them off like we are told. Our bodies also count calories differently. All evidence I've seen or read indicates it's sugars that are the issue. Have some carbs but don't go overboard. Exercise, low sugar, medium intake of protein and high fats will see you succeed.