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That thing no one wants to talk about, I'll start.

I have OCD and have suffered with depression and anxiety at different stages, would say the anxiety has never gone away though I have managed it to be sporadic at times.

I'm currently researching Aspergers/looking into seeing someone as I can relate to a lot the symptoms; argumentative, pedantic, little interest in what others have to say, cut people off to be centre of conversation, just talk about me, lack eye contact, not great with dealing with people's emotions, short attention span and jump from one interest to another. Just not sure how to go about a professional opinion in Oz without paying an arm and a leg.

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Fortunately I'm not in crisis, I have a good handle of my OCD and I haven't been majorly depressed since I had cancer and began treatment for my OCD. I have a good grip on my mental health but there are aspects of my personality that hold me back and they're all related to symptoms of aspergers.

And for the record telling someone with mental health issues to "hold the crisis" is as useful as playing tennis with an egg.

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Making a thread about something "nobody wants to talk about". Should be interesting :ph34r:.

Seriously though its good that you can manage and keep a lid on your issues and are intelligent enough to seek help if need be. That's the first step to defeating anything like this.

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54 minutes ago, Danny said:

That thing no one wants to talk about, I'll start.

I have OCD and have suffered with depression and anxiety at different stages, would say the anxiety has never gone away though I have managed it to be sporadic at times.

I'm currently researching Aspergers/looking into seeing someone as I can relate to a lot the symptoms; argumentative, pedantic, little interest in what others have to say, cut people off to be centre of conversation, just talk about me, lack eye contact, not great with dealing with people's emotions, short attention span and jump from one interest to another. Just not sure how to go about a professional opinion in Oz without paying an arm and a leg.

I know a guy on another forum that has Aspergers, he says he has no empathy at all towards others, not even his family. And from the many times i've talked with you, you don't struck me as the type. Although the symptoms you described are completely different to the ones he talked about and that you'd find on google.

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23 minutes ago, Berserker said:

I know a guy on another forum that has Aspergers, he says he has no empathy at all towards others, not even his family. And from the many times i've talked with you, you don't struck me as the type. Although the symptoms you described are completely different to the ones he talked about and that you'd find on google.

 

We have Aspergers.

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2 minutes ago, Tanksie said:

 

We have Aspergers.

Isn't Asperger's one of the side effects from eating human remains?

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21 minutes ago, Tanksie said:

 

We have Aspergers.

Nah we don't, you just have a bizarre taste for food.

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42 minutes ago, Berserker said:

I know a guy on another forum that has Aspergers, he says he has no empathy at all towards others, not even his family. And from the many times i've talked with you, you don't struck me as the type. Although the symptoms you described are completely different to the ones he talked about and that you'd find on google.

It is a symptom and I can approach things like that to an extent before my empathy kicks in but no ones symptoms are exactly the same. It's similar to OCD, I don't need to clean myself or my house obsessively and I don't need to touch everything a million times but I still have OCD.

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1 minute ago, Danny said:

It is a symptom and I can approach things like that to an extent before my empathy kicks in but no ones symptoms are exactly the same. It's similar to OCD, I don't need to clean myself or my house obsessively and I don't need to touch everything a million times but I still have OCD.

I think you may've killed a witch in one of your past lives Danny, OCD, Aspergers, lost and egg, what more? :ph34r:

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5 minutes ago, Berserker said:

I think you may've killed a witch in one of your past lives Danny, OCD, Aspergers, lost and egg, what more? :ph34r:

Didn't Danny have an argument with that Nigerian witch doctor from the last forum? Might be more than just an internet troll it seems...

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I have Aspergers, or ASD as it's now called  ..i don't play well with others :ph34r:

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Don't mean to be offensive but isn't shit how some people claim to have OCD? I see it all the time on Facebook with stuff like "Just cleaned the whole house. My OCD is happy now lols" and the like when in reality, this isn't OCD at all. It's just "cool" to say you have it and that must be shit for people who genuinely do suffer from OCD , who've been diagnosed and know what living with OCD is really like. I sympathise with real OCD sufferers immensely on this subject. 

Funny that a mental health thread has popped up on here. I was on Facebook last night and a lad I went to Primary School with "come out" so to speak about his experiences of mental health and opened up about his manic depression and suicide attempts that are visible apparently. It come as a shock as I always thought of him as a happy kid who come from a very good home and had a bit of money around him. His Facebook is not an indicator into the "dark side" of his life either, just pictures of him following Watford, travelling and enjoying life with his girlfriend. It just goes to show that mental health really is a silent illness that could be affecting absolutely anyone. 

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1 minute ago, Smiley Culture said:

Don't mean to be offensive but isn't shit how some people claim to have OCD? I see it all the time on Facebook with stuff like "Just cleaned the whole house. My OCD is happy now lols" and the like when in reality, this isn't OCD at all. It's just "cool" to say you have it and that must be shit for people who genuinely do suffer from OCD , who've been diagnosed and know what living with OCD is really like. I sympathise with real OCD sufferers immensely on this subject. 

Funny that a mental health thread has popped up on here. I was on Facebook last night and a lad I went to Primary School with "come out" so to speak about his experiences of mental health and opened up about his manic depression and suicide attempts that are visible apparently. It come as a shock as I always thought of him as a happy kid who come from a very good home and had a bit of money around him. His Facebook is not an indicator into the "dark side" of his life either, just pictures of him following Watford, travelling and enjoying life with his girlfriend. It just goes to show that mental health really is a silent illness that could be affecting absolutely anyone. 

Definitely not offensive, those people are. OCD can ruin a persons life and drive them towards self harm and suicide, even before then it can cause crippling anxiety and self hatred. It's just pure ignorance because they think OCD is just being organised.

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My advice would be to ask yourself if you think a diagnosis would help. What would it mean for the way you approach things? With high functioning autism the symptoms you mention probably don't need a specialist but could be worked at with any decent therapist. But if it puts your mind at rest then find out.

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15 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said:

My advice would be to ask yourself if you think a diagnosis would help. What would it mean for the way you approach things? With high functioning autism the symptoms you mention probably don't need a specialist but could be worked at with any decent therapist. But if it puts your mind at rest then find out.

I'm not necessarily after a specialist but generally the difference between a private psychologist and a state one is in the diagnosis.

I would never have been on my OCD course if it wasn't for seeking professional help and a diagnosis.

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8 minutes ago, Danny said:

I'm not necessarily after a specialist but generally the difference between a private psychologist and a state one is in the diagnosis.

I would never have been on my OCD course if it wasn't for seeking professional help and a diagnosis.

Fair do's. At least with OCD diagnosis the door is opened to programmes designed for that. I'd be surprised if there is anything for high functioning autism, a diagnosis would probably help someone understand themselves better or give them a narrative to do so. But people who don't have autism can also have social difficulties so there's enough overlap for support.

Adult diagnosis of high functioning autism is extremely hard to make and usually requires accounts of what you were like as a child from other people. So you might want to make sure a diagnosis can be made in Australia if for example your mother is on the other side of the planet. 

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Medications can be very fucked up with the side-affects you don't realise. I was taking anti-depressant for a while when I was a teenager, the doctor thought ti was time to stop, so I did just that. I had never felt so sick over the following week and a half, I felt like my brain was being spun around like an album and the nausea was almost unbearable.

A few years later I was apparently diagnosed with 'manic depression' (I still think I was misdiagnosed) and I've been on a cocktail the last few years. If I even miss a day, I feel like I'm going to pass out, blurred vision, nausea, loss of balance, etc. Drugs can be great but most people don't realise the full repercussions till it's too late.

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11 hours ago, HoneyNUFC said:

Fair do's. At least with OCD diagnosis the door is opened to programmes designed for that. I'd be surprised if there is anything for high functioning autism, a diagnosis would probably help someone understand themselves better or give them a narrative to do so. But people who don't have autism can also have social difficulties so there's enough overlap for support.

Adult diagnosis of high functioning autism is extremely hard to make and usually requires accounts of what you were like as a child from other people. So you might want to make sure a diagnosis can be made in Australia if for example your mother is on the other side of the planet. 

Yeah I'm not sure what sort of help is on offer, when I spoke about my OCD they out me in a group CBT session which did and didn't have it's benefits and I don't necessarily expect there to be an equivalent with aspergers.

10 hours ago, DeadLinesman said:

To be fair, I could have diagnosed him with obnoxious cunt disorder years ago.

I love you too

9 hours ago, True Bender said:

Asking for psychiatric help in this forum is like asking your prison inmates for legal advice.

Good thing no one has asked for psychiatric help then 

9 hours ago, Spike said:

Medications can be very fucked up with the side-affects you don't realise. I was taking anti-depressant for a while when I was a teenager, the doctor thought ti was time to stop, so I did just that. I had never felt so sick over the following week and a half, I felt like my brain was being spun around like an album and the nausea was almost unbearable.

A few years later I was apparently diagnosed with 'manic depression' (I still think I was misdiagnosed) and I've been on a cocktail the last few years. If I even miss a day, I feel like I'm going to pass out, blurred vision, nausea, loss of balance, etc. Drugs can be great but most people don't realise the full repercussions till it's too late.

I've never been on medication but tbh my issues have mostly happened in silence so no one would really know.

I had a doctor that suggested medicine because he couldn't refer me to anywhere which was strange.

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Are those really some of the symptoms for Aspergers? None of those really match any of the students I've ever taught who have been diagnosed.  I often do a lot of those though! I've got better about not cutting people off, and not talking about me as much. I just thought I was really self centred. The lack of eye contact is interesting too... *off to google*

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On 30/03/2017 at 7:08 PM, Anton said:

Are those really some of the symptoms for Aspergers? None of those really match any of the students I've ever taught who have been diagnosed.  I often do a lot of those though! I've got better about not cutting people off, and not talking about me as much. I just thought I was really self centred. The lack of eye contact is interesting too... *off to google*

According to da NHS and other Asperger charities they are

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On March 29, 2017 at 1:39 AM, Danny said:

That thing no one wants to talk about, I'll start.

I have OCD and have suffered with depression and anxiety at different stages, would say the anxiety has never gone away though I have managed it to be sporadic at times.

I'm currently researching Aspergers/looking into seeing someone as I can relate to a lot the symptoms; argumentative, pedantic, little interest in what others have to say, cut people off to be centre of conversation, just talk about me, lack eye contact, not great with dealing with people's emotions, short attention span and jump from one interest to another. Just not sure how to go about a professional opinion in Oz without paying an arm and a leg.

You should try anxiety, coffee, and university (obligations with studying, and that shit) its really bad. 

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I thought i'd bring this thread back up as Mental Health has been highlighted a lot in the news recently after Prince Harry opened up about having counselling after the death of his mother.

Firstly, I found Prince William's comments about Britain needs to remove it's stiff upper lip towards mental health quite patronising to the thousands of people who have highlighted the issues around mental health and the need to talk about it (and for more to be done) in the United Kingdom in the last decade or so. Evidence towards people's attitudes towards mental health changing has been everywhere in the last five or more years. I've noticed people talking about their mental illnesses on facebook, more celebrities appear to be free to talk about their problems and seek help and after the loss of Gary Speed ex sports people seem to be doing more to combat mental illness after retirement instead of ignoring it. Most importantly however i've seen attitude's in the workplace change towards people who have had suffered from issues such as a nervous breakdowns. Based from what I have seen I think a lot more companies react differently in regards to helping somebody though a mental health issue than what has happened before.  

You can even see evidence in this thread of the improvement we have all made recognising that having a mental illness is something that should be talked about in an open environment. Whilst I have no doubt if somebody on this forum did suffer from depression around five or more years ago they would have felt comfortable discussing it with certain members on here but i think that would have been more because of the strong friendships that were made on a thriving forum and they may not have described depression as a mental illness in itself. About five years ago i'm not sure a thread entitled 'Mental Health' for members to talk about battles with anxiety and depression would have existed.

The only people who don't seem to acknowledge the crisis are the higher ups who haven't been directly affected by mental health or who don't see the battles first hand. I don't know how accurate this is but i've read reports previously which suggest that around 1% of the NHS budget is being spent on Mental Health, and around the 10% region is being spent on treatment for type two diabetes. If that's true that is staggering and shows where the Government's priorities have lied within the last couple of decades. The first part I have no doubt is in the correct region.

People who suffer from a mental health relapse can often wait over an hour for an Ambulance because there isn't enough Ambulances to cope with the workload, to then wait hours at a hospital to be assessed because there isn't enough qualified doctors to assess them, to then wait hours for a bed at a mental health suite because there just isn't any beds to take them to, for them then to recieve treatment (not in all cases) from staff that lack passion and enthusiasm for there role because they're severely underpaid for the hours they work and the abuse they have to tolerate. That's just one scenario that doesn't take in to account the months of waiting for counselliing because there isn't enough counsellors or the waiting for a decision to be made on prescriptions because the waiting list is so long. But now after years of this happening and more people suffering from mental health issues year upon year it's now been decided that Britain has a stiff upper lip because it's only just been talked about by a member of the royal family? Give me a break.

The only people that have a stiff upper lip to it are the higher ups in this country that have ignored the growing crisis whilst giving each other pats on the back and raise after raise for the work they do.

On that note I hope you all enjoy the rest of your week.

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It's shocking really. I had no idea what to do with regards to my OCD, I received more info online from a charity than I ever was taught beforehand.

When I first went to see the doctor about it, I told him what I'd researched and found similarities in and I explained what was happening to him, my OCD has largely been around intrusive thoughts with a mix of some other stuff (germs), I spoke to him when I got back from Australia the first time and as soon as he heard the words cancer and stress he just put two and two together and got the square route of China. All he offered were drugs if it got worse, but otherwise a charities number to call for guidance. It wasn't until i moved to Oxfordshire that I was given information by my local doctor about Talking Space, an NHS programme. This helped me a lot, but it took months to have an initial assessment with a psychiatrist, then months to get into a group therapy course which focused mostly around compulsions, very little on intrusive thoughts in the grand scheme of things.

The support really isn't there and unless you're diagnosed through childhood the likelihood of diagnosis or even an assessment without mentioning suicide or suicidal thoughts is slim to none.

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