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34 minutes ago, Spike said:

He is a better dribbler than Lamps. But yes their are similarities. Do you recall his solo goal against Bayern? Marvelous technique. 

Indeed, that goal was brilliant. He's only just turned 23 and seems to have been around for quite some time.  His performances for Spain this past week away to England and at home to Croatia have been top notch.  This kid is going places but it's no surprise.  For me he definitely reminds me of Lampard but with more technique.

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18 hours ago, BartraPique1932 said:

Are Atléti really not as good this season or are they just somehow not getting the results?

They've got their best squad of players ever, probably the most complete squad in La Liga in terms of out and out quality all over the park. They literally have two top end players per position which is why this season everyone is saying Simeone can't use the excuse of the fact they're underdogs all the time.  Infact their full on profits for last year compete with both Barcelona and Real Madrid.

They traditionally start the season stuttering under Simeone and then go on tremendous runs, too late unless the big two also stutter.  Anyway, it's very early yet and in two weeks time it's the Madrid derby between themselves and Real which will be massive, even more so after yesterday's comments by Sergio Ramos in reference to Antoine Griezmann's possibilities for the Ballon d'Or award. 

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I think  at the back of every Atleti player’s head is that lingering doubt that no matter how amazing they are, they’ll become ‘las pupas’ again for a single moment and Ramos will score an offside deflected goal in the 98th minute. 

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They really do have an impressive squad of players. I think it's the strongest squad they've had in my lifetime. What a team Simeone has assembled in his time at the club.

It's been a strange start to the season, with Barca and Real starting so poor you'd expect Atletico to be capitalizing on it but they've started poor too. 

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33 minutes ago, JOSHBRFC said:

They really do have an impressive squad of players. I think it's the strongest squad they've had in my lifetime. What a team Simeone has assembled in his time at the club.

It's been a strange start to the season, with Barca and Real starting so poor you'd expect Atletico to be capitalizing on it but they've started poor too. 

Barcelona have had big defensive problems so far (Piqué mainly)

Real Madrid are finding it difficult to find a natural goal scorer.

Atlético Madrid are suffering from Simeone being afraid to let go of the shackles he has embedded there.  Atlético's start to the Madrid derby showed the combanitive dynamic football they can reproduce if their coach actually lets them do it.  What's the point in having a talented squad if you're still going to play underdog when they're clearly not anymore.

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1 minute ago, ...Dan said:

More clean sheets than goals conceded xD incredible record!

I think it isn’t far fetched to say Oblak is the best keeper in the world right now to be honest. Atleti recieve their fair share of attacks and he has made some incredible saves during his time at Atleti which means that part of it is down to him and not just Simeone’s tactical defensive astuteness.

For me right now the top three keepers are Oblak, Ter Stegen and Kepa. 

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He turned down Man United also so his loyalty is there alright with Atlético & Simeone, hats off to him. :ay:

France forward Antoine Griezmann says it was "very difficult" to turn down Barcelona in the summer, but the support he received at Atletico Madrid helped persuade him to stay. (Goal)

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On 19/10/2018 at 16:13, ...Dan said:

More clean sheets than goals conceded xD incredible record!

He does have a fantastic defence in front of him though and it's just as much about them. With this said, it's probably more difficult to play behind a solid defence as you have to stay focused much more.

If he played for Barcelona then he'd still be as amazing of a keeper and arguably the best in the world, but would also concede more due to the hideously poor defence in front of him.

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Atletico Madrid's Pakistan academy: Spanish giants seek raw talent & viewing share

By Tusdiq Din

Football writer

4 hours ago | European Football

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Coaches Javier Visea and Daniel Limones (left) have moved to Pakistan and are overseen by Atletico's international academy manager Fernando Lobete (second right) and academy director Omer Sheikh (right)

In bright winter sunshine, young trainees are focused on football drills.

From the sidelines, Spanish coaches encourage them. Shouts of "bueno" (good) and "mas" (more) can be heard.

But this football academy - established as part of a landmark agreement with Atletico Madrid - is more than 4,000 miles away from Spain, in Lahore, Pakistan.

Hammad Zia, a 12-year-old forward with raw talent and an eye for goal, is among those taking part. Two years ago he was the first child enrolled at the academy.

Among the other young trainees are Subhan, a 16-year-old left-winger, 15-year-old forward Waris, and 10-year-old midfielder Fizza, who is one of the best girl trainees at the academy.

So why have the 10-time Spanish champions become the first La Liga club to open an academy in Pakistan?

The story of Hammad - and his friends - offers some answers.

Hammad, who admires Lionel Messi and Paul Pogba, is so impressed with his training that when he returns home he shares his new skills with his four-year-old brother Luqman.

Hammad, who admires Lionel Messi and Paul Pogba, is so impressed with his training that when he returns home he shares his new skills with his four-year-old brother Luqman.

"It's going very well. I play as a forward and my training is going very well. We're learning basic skills - they're teaching it all," he says.

Looking on with pride is his father Zia Ur-Rehman. A Lahore policeman, he recognised his son's talent early on.

"When I was a child, I wanted to be a footballer, but there was no support from my parents," he says.

"That passion I had remained inside me; it didn't die. When my son was born, that footballing desire returned for him.

"I initially took him for swimming lessons, thinking he might turn out to be the next Michael Phelps, but after a couple of visits, I saw that he didn't enjoy it.

"He had already been playing at a club, and a coach saw him and asked 'Why don't you enrol him at a coaching school? We won't make him a footballer - he is one already!'"

Thus Hammad became the first pupil enrolled at Lahore's Summatus Sports Academy, which will be officially rebranded as the Atletico De Madrid Academia in January.

"From birth, I have one kidney," says his father. "I can be up and down because of this, but Hammad's football gives me great joy.

"Our wish is that Hammad gets selected to play in Spain and also represents Pakistan."

Atletico aim to have players in Pakistan's national youth teams in three to five years, and also hope to have Pakistani players playing for them one day.

The initiative was dreamt up by Lahore businessmen Muhammad Atta Tanseer and his cousin Omer Sheikh, both passionate football fans who wanted to raise the level of footballing talent in Pakistan and the profile of the game in the country.

They made initial overtures to Atletico's city rivals Real Madrid, but the plan never got off the ground, and they say they were even "laughed out of meetings" - although they were shown around the club to meet then head coach Zinedine Zidane and his players.

At Atletico, they also faced initial scepticism, but over several visits to the country, Atletico were impressed with what they saw.

Atta Tanseer and Sheikh's Summatus Sports firm, which already has over 100 children in its training system, would be the parent company, with everything else branded in the Atletico name. Academies in Islamabad and Karachi are expected to follow.

"My greater goal is to restructure football in Pakistan from the grassroots level," said Atta Tanseer.

"The road ahead is neither easy nor short, but it is one I am wildly optimistic about. We are merely starting to scratch the surface of infinite talent that remains to be discovered."

In addition to their brand, the Spanish club provide coaches - Daniel Limones and Javier Visea have been living in Lahore since September.

Their days consist of training newly recruited Pakistani coaches and attending local schools for talent spotting sessions, then coaching the children in the afternoons.

"We had a different view when we were in Spain to that we now have lived here. Everything is different - the pace of life, the religion, the things they are focused on are different," said Limones.

"But it's a country with a lot of opportunities, and the people here are really kind, really helpful. They really want to grow, they want to learn, so our experience here has been really nice."

One of the first Pakistani coaches selected by Limones and Visea was 25-year-old sports instructor Wasim Sajjad.

He comes from Gojjal, in Hunza Valley, Gilgit Baltistan, near Pakistan's Chinese border. Although he studied civil engineering, football is his passion. When he heard of the Atletico project, he set off on a 500-mile journey to Lahore for trials.

"I feel happy when I am involved in football. I strongly believe this opportunity will help me stabilise my career in football and also help me and my family financially," he said.

But beyond access to an untapped supply of young footballers, what's in it for Atletico?

In a market where Barcelona and Real Madrid dominate viewing figures, getting their club seen in South Asia is a big incentive.

Facebook recently bought the rights to show all 380 La Liga matches free to air to users in India, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Nepal, the Maldives, Sri Lanka and Pakistan - a potential audience of 348 million users.

"Asia is crazy about football and the markets are becoming increasingly attractive for our clubs - the interest for La Liga is increasing a lot," said Jose Antonio Cachaza, La Liga's manager in India.

"Hopefully in the near future, we'll have an Indian or Pakistani player starting for one of our clubs."

In the meantime, the cultural exchange is already underway.

"We are trying to learn Urdu and the kids are trying to learn Spanish," said Limones.

"We have some kids in the school programme who are very interested in learning Spanish - they are learning some words slowly. I can say 'Kya Haal Hai?' (How are you?) It's Urdu for dummies, but we are trying."

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BREAKING: Believable sources are stating that Atlético Madrid and France international, Antoine Griezmann has agreed terms and transfer from the Madrid club to FC Barcelona. Atleti have apparently started plans on his replacement.

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So, as I advanced yesterday, news has just been filtered out from Atlético de Madrid that Antoine Griezmann has officially put in writing to the club that he will be paying his release clause from the 1st of July 2019 and thus will be departing. In the letter it apparently doesn’t state which club he will be moving to.

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12 hours ago, Stan said:

Juanfran leaving Atletico too... 

 

 

He's been a great servant to the club but his time has come. It seems Atleti are doing a major restructure of their squad but I dont feel that much needed to be done, just tweaks. This doesn't include Juanfran who has now reached his limit at the level Atlético Madrid need to be competing at.

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2 hours ago, MUFC said:

Isn't he on his zimmer frame now?

I'd say moving on from himself, Godin and Filipe Luis is what they need to do, although losing Griezmann, Rodri and Lucas(especially the first 2 as Lucas isn't THAT great) could be big.

Then again, the last time they sold their best players in 1 window, they went on to win La Liga and reach 2 Champions league finals, so it's all about how they spend.

 

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This is a really, really good signing. Renan Lodi is a very promissing left-back, yes there are questions about his defense but I think Simeone is the right coach to teach how to defend, and he offers a lot on the attack. Can cross, dribble, pass, complete player.  

 

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56 minutes ago, CaaC (John) said:

 

The word "legend" gets banded about quite easily and it's actually a cliché these days. But he is definitely a club legend due to the fact he had a lot to do with all that Atleti have achieved in the 9 years he's been there. These days it was more about his leadership skills which will be sorely missed.

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