Moderator Tommy Posted October 6 Moderator Share Posted October 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 On 06/10/2024 at 02:35, Tommy said: Needs a noose 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Momentum supposedly with Trump right now with him gaining on Harris in the polls. Harris still ahead by one or two percent but things might be timing themselves perfectly for Trump. Don't think Kamala Harris is impressive in the slightest but how such a politically clumsy dumbass has had US politics revolving around him for so long is crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 The race is a coin toss. I think ultimately Trump will win. The covid backlash is coming for democrats who have not called out enough of the overreach and media excess that occurred, and continue to pretend that the only bad thing about the pandemic was Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 14 hours ago, 6666 said: Momentum supposedly with Trump right now with him gaining on Harris in the polls. Harris still ahead by one or two percent but things might be timing themselves perfectly for Trump. Don't think Kamala Harris is impressive in the slightest but how such a politically clumsy dumbass has had US politics revolving around him for so long is crazy. The US media fucking loves Trump because he’s good for their ratings - you’d never know it because he bitches and moans about “fake news”, but they’re the ones promoting his second candidacy better than he is. 6 hours ago, Harry said: The race is a coin toss. I think ultimately Trump will win. The covid backlash is coming for democrats who have not called out enough of the overreach and media excess that occurred, and continue to pretend that the only bad thing about the pandemic was Trump. I don’t think Covid is really an issue in this election at all. Aftershocks of Covid are, things like inflation… but the American electorate isn’t smart enough to really associate that with Covid. Identity politics are driving this election honestly. It’s hardly a battle of politicians and their policies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Trump's campaign seems to be getting a lot of attention and while he still comes across as an idiot it's not necessarily bad attention. He's just going on popular podcasts where he doesn't have to do much and the hosts just suck him off. Harris just seems to be trying to do what Clinton did which to be uncontroversial, boring, and represent the status quo that no one relates to. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump ends up winning this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted October 25 Subscriber Share Posted October 25 I would say this cant be real but the fact that it really could be is just fucking nuts in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 She's so awkward and her tone is so erratic. Not a great speaker. Also took one of the things people make fun of Trump for by letting everyone know Obama was doing it first and it's something she wants to expand on... People viewing Trump as a total clown must be the only thing she's relying on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Prepare for Trump to win. I think that's quite likely at this point. Probably a 70% chance. Very regrettable that Bidens unpopular VP was the only possible choice able to be fielded by the late point at which Biden stepped aside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 That's the first time I've seen KH speak, and I'll be honest they should have just kept Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted Monday at 15:40 Share Posted Monday at 15:40 Donald Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted Tuesday at 11:01 Subscriber Share Posted Tuesday at 11:01 Everything crossed for Kamala Harris and the Democrats to win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted Tuesday at 12:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:41 Hope every republican, democrat, and billionaire dies suddenly and the USA gets a good person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted Tuesday at 13:27 Subscriber Share Posted Tuesday at 13:27 I hope for an alien invasion, as in the movies they always seem to invade the US solely, that would be an upgrade 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Popular Post RandoEFC+ Posted Tuesday at 13:46 Subscriber Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 13:46 I know America isn't great, and for a proper leftie or anyone who thinks Israel has crossed the line by about 200 million miles, etc. (okay any normal person), Harris and the Democrats aren't perfect or even particularly good, but I really don't like the "they're all shit" narrative. Harris is nowhere near as bad as Trump for the USA or the rest of the Western world at the end of the day. If you don't like her then fine, but come on, if someone offered me the choice of stubbing my toe or having my feet chopped off then my response wouldn't be "well they're both just horrible!" 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted Tuesday at 18:36 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:36 4 hours ago, RandoEFC said: I know America isn't great, and for a proper leftie or anyone who thinks Israel has crossed the line by about 200 million miles, etc. (okay any normal person), Harris and the Democrats aren't perfect or even particularly good, but I really don't like the "they're all shit" narrative. Harris is nowhere near as bad as Trump for the USA or the rest of the Western world at the end of the day. If you don't like her then fine, but come on, if someone offered me the choice of stubbing my toe or having my feet chopped off then my response wouldn't be "well they're both just horrible!" They're all shit, but one is objectively less shit than the other. America's got a fucked up and (imho) stupid political system - it's not particularly democratic and the places with the highest populations get their votes watered down on a national level. But if they've got a choice between two shit choices, and one is objectively less shit than the other... it makes sense for people to want the objectively less shit option. Especially when the US is a superpower and its actions cause a ripple effect around the world. Trump was objectively bad for the western world. And he wasn't great for the Middle East either - he needlessly fanned flames across the region when he declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel, getting absolutely nothing in return for it. Him tearing up anuclear deal was a huge negative for the region and for people around the world who have any hopes of ending nuclear proliferation (although I think Russia's invasion of Ukraine throws that out the window tbh). In effect, it encouraged a government that has no love for the west and basically no trust in the west to pull back from any attempts at diplomacy, pushed them to ideological hardlines, and had them push their proxies to put the region into chaos for over a year. The US isn't a bubble isolated from the rest of the world. All the big world powers are interfering with one another in hopes of coming out on top in a game of zero-sum capitalism. Someone like Trump in power just pushes instability - not just in the US, but all over the world. For a more stable world, Trumpism needs to die in the US and this far right push that seems to have traction in virtually every western country needs to be taken very seriously because Trump, like Brexit, shows there are very real and serious consequences to far right populist rhetoric. Hopefully it's not like the last US presidential election where it takes days for them to finally figure out who's won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Popular Post Tommy Posted Tuesday at 18:52 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 18:52 5 hours ago, RandoEFC said: I know America isn't great, and for a proper leftie or anyone who thinks Israel has crossed the line by about 200 million miles, etc. (okay any normal person), Harris and the Democrats aren't perfect or even particularly good, but I really don't like the "they're all shit" narrative. Harris is nowhere near as bad as Trump for the USA or the rest of the Western world at the end of the day. If you don't like her then fine, but come on, if someone offered me the choice of stubbing my toe or having my feet chopped off then my response wouldn't be "well they're both just horrible!" 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spike Posted Tuesday at 22:29 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:29 8 hours ago, RandoEFC said: I know America isn't great, and for a proper leftie or anyone who thinks Israel has crossed the line by about 200 million miles, etc. (okay any normal person), Harris and the Democrats aren't perfect or even particularly good, but I really don't like the "they're all shit" narrative. Harris is nowhere near as bad as Trump for the USA or the rest of the Western world at the end of the day. If you don't like her then fine, but come on, if someone offered me the choice of stubbing my toe or having my feet chopped off then my response wouldn't be "well they're both just horrible!" And that's exactly how the Democrats are able to be awful, they only have to be 'less shit' than possibly the worst president of all time (maybe fifth), they just have to be a little less fascisty than Project 2025. The ratchet effect is real and the Democrats have no incentive from the Republicans to shift towards the left, and their voting constituency gives them no reason to have to enact any actual policies that help people because they put no pressure on the Democrats to actually do anything outside of 'not be Republican'. It's not a stubbed toe vs chopped off, it's a chopped off and bleeding out now, vs chopped off but the toe is being staunched so you bleed out over a few days. It's just delaying this shit by a few years and people let it happen because they are scared if they demand more from the Democrats the Republicans will sweep in. Democrats still support Israel They still build a border wall They still mistreat immigrants and put kids in cages They let Roe v Wade die under their presidency They still constantly stack their senates with conservative voters that will knock down legislation they promise to They still bail out mega corps instead of helping people They don't address education, they don't address medical health, they don't address the income inequality gap, they don't protect women or minorities, what do the Democrats do beside run on Republican politics from two election cycles prior? Trump is truly awful and I don't him to win at all, but damage control isn't democratic, and the Democrats are truly awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Profesor Posted Wednesday at 01:59 Share Posted Wednesday at 01:59 American analists, especially those in the progressive camp, have a completely distorted image of latinos. Latin americans are way more conservative and religious than north americans. And those latinos who immigrate to Florida are in general even more right-wing than the average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted Wednesday at 02:34 Share Posted Wednesday at 02:34 26 minutes ago, El Profesor said: American analists, especially those in the progressive camp, have a completely distorted image of latinos. Latin americans are way more conservative and religious than north americans. And those latinos who immigrate to Florida are in general even more right-wing than the average. Oh mate, you are in for the shock of a lifetime if you think NAs aren’t as or more conservative or religious than Suda Americanos. Lula is more left than nearly every American haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted Wednesday at 03:51 Share Posted Wednesday at 03:51 Republican sweep it looks like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted Wednesday at 03:59 Share Posted Wednesday at 03:59 7 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Republican sweep it looks like nah, haven't hit west coast yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted Wednesday at 04:47 Subscriber Share Posted Wednesday at 04:47 For fucks sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted Wednesday at 06:12 Share Posted Wednesday at 06:12 11 hours ago, Tommy said: I needed that. This is so accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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