Smiley Culture Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 I can’t see this going ahead any time soon. There’s too much politics and logistics in the way at the minute. The longer that takes, the better, as it’ll put delay after delay on this but I can see all sorts of court battles and legal spats from both sides. That said, the damage is done. These clubs have made that first, big step in agreeing to join this competition and that’s going to be tough to win back. These clubs who’ve plastered messages over their stadium and use nice slogans and comments that actually resonate with large portions of their fanbase, as a merchandising tactic have taken that plunge and it’s going to be hard to turn back some of their fans. Ultimately, others will bow down to the clubs, as fans have done for years anyway.
UNIQUE Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: Yes that's definitely what it's about which is why renowned bluenose @LFCMike got in there before me . hey look on the bright side. if 6 teams leave the EPL you might get 4th
montybhopa Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 I have a feeling Klopp is gonna get 'sacked' too just like Mourinho. Klopp can happily go back to manage a German team.
Administrator Stan Posted April 19, 2021 Administrator Posted April 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, UNIQUE said: if your boss comes to you and says you or a work mate can get a 30% pay rise but only one of you can get it then askes you who should get it who would you pick? This is absolutely nothing like that You are a WUM or you don't know how this will actually affect the match-going fan. Very out of touch.
Bluewolf Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, montybhopa said: Imagine if UK govt announces that the big six cant use the name of the cities. Will they be called Smashers, Clippers, Buccaneers etc? That could well be a reality.... If the clubs push on with this and then get sanctioned by each league and then the players are getting sanctioned for being part of them teams where do they think they will be playing these games?? Not sure how it will work if the clubs involved will be allowed to play unsanctioned games at their grounds or not?? If not then it would mean taking these games to the likes of the States and Asia which could well be part of the long term plan anyway... It would make sense that they could then well change their names as a result.. a rebrand if you like
Dave Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 Gary Neville: “How have Spurs and Arsenal wangled their way in there?! I’d rather watch the champions of San Marino at the moment than them two”
montybhopa Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 Some idiots really comparing ESL to PL 30 years ago. PL is not a closed shop. If it was, we would still have AFC Wimbledon, Coventry, Blackburn in the league.
LFCMike Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, UNIQUE said: not sure what you mean. Every post you've made in this thread has been way off the mark
UNIQUE Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Stan said: This is absolutely nothing like that You are a WUM. its exactly like that. everyone is looking to do whats best for them no matter what they do for a living. players will go where the money is and clubs will go to the highest profet. no body cares about the other guy and you are crazy to think other wise. ffs the vatican rakes in more money that the ESL ever will.
Rick Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, UNIQUE said: its exactly like that. everyone is looking to do whats best for them no matter what they do for a living. players will go where the money is and clubs will go to the highest profet. no body cares about the other guy and you are crazy to think other wise. ffs the vatican rakes in more money that the ESL ever will. Mate, give it a bastard rest will you.
UNIQUE Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, LFCMike said: Every post you've made in this thread has been way off the mark no mate you mean you dont agree with my opinions so you dont like my posts.
montybhopa Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 I think they will change the names of the teams to American cities or something like that and would bring in other 8 teams from MSL.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted April 19, 2021 Author Subscriber Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, UNIQUE said: hey look on the bright side. if 6 teams leave the EPL you might get 4th And if you moved out of your Mum's basement and found some real life mates to spend time with you might have some better banter to fall back on. You're laughing as the club you "support" is plucked out of a great footballing city and milked for the amusement and enrichment of rich Americans and Saudis that have never set foot in Anfield.
Administrator Stan Posted April 19, 2021 Administrator Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, UNIQUE said: its exactly like that. everyone is looking to do whats best for them no matter what they do for a living. players will go where the money is and clubs will go to the highest profet. no body cares about the other guy and you are crazy to think other wise. ffs the vatican rakes in more money that the ESL ever will. In your scenario you're acting like that other person who didn't get the pay-rise never gets a chance to get one in future. Which is incorrect because the ESL don't let anyone else have a 'pay-rise'. They choose the clubs. They choose the terms. Hence the term 'closed shop'. In what world is that fair? Like I said, for you as long as Liverpool are alright, that's the sole reason to be taken like a chump and go ahead with it. You're being treated like a mug and like the lapdog you're coming across, you're going along with it without a care for any other team or football itself.
UNIQUE Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Rick said: Mate, give it a bastard rest will you. am i wrong in saying players are greedy and will go for the money? am i wrong in saying clubs will go for the highest profit? am i wrong in thinking that rich people and rich businesses dont give a fuck about the small guy. no i dont think i am wrong at all. now stop being a woke cunt and accept other people might see things different to you.
montybhopa Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 Ronaldo and Messi are greedy assholes. They know that they are at back end of their careers and they want to mint as much money as they can in the last few years of their career. Messi and Ronaldo hold enough power to stop their teams from playing in such a league but they won't because they know themselves that they are not good enough now.
UNIQUE Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: And if you moved out of your Mum's basement and found some real life mates to spend time with you might have some better banter to fall back on. You're laughing as the club you "support" is plucked out of a great footballing city and milked for the amusement and enrichment of rich Americans and Saudis that have never set foot in Anfield. and me moaning about it like a bitch will stop any of that will it. i cant stop it any more than you can. im just giving opinions on how players and clubs are thinking.
montybhopa Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 I blame FIFA here too. If they had not diminished the international football like they did, it would have never happened but now even if they announce ban on ESL players from World Cup, players will be like okay fuck off we dont care about international anyways.
Cicero Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 Bar the World Cup, international football is dead.
Dave Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 Thought Steve Parish was going to miss his deliveroo order there.
UNIQUE Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, Stan said: This is absolutely nothing like that You are a WUM or you don't know how this will actually affect the match-going fan. Very out of touch. so liverpool fans going to madrid in a UCL game is not the same as liverpool fans going to madrid for a ESL game. its nothing more than replacing the champions lge. like i say im not a fan of it and i hope it dont happen but people are acting like football is no more
montybhopa Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Cicero said: Bar the World Cup, international football is dead. It was always dead. FIFA never took it seriously themselves. What was the point of having so many friendlies rather than competitive games? You have players like Diego Costa and thousand others who would happily play for Spain than their own country. Or so many Brazilian players who play for Italy. Even if you ban ESL players from FIFA WCs, they would just go on to play in ESL and winning the trophies there. Neuer was asked which trophy was more important for him, UCL or WC and he said UCL. I can see football becoming like basketball where NBA is the biggest thing and no one gives a crap about FIBA WC.
Cicero Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 Klopp's stance never changed. Good to hear him being the voice of the fans but to be quite frank, he and Pep are arguably the only managers who are safe from retaliation from the board.
nudge Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, UNIQUE said: and me moaning about it like a bitch will stop any of that will it. i cant stop it any more than you can. im just giving opinions on how players and clubs are thinking. Things you and any other fan can do: cancel your membership don't attend matches cancel your TV subscriptions don't watch matches on TV or internet don't buy any merchandise be vocal about it instead of accepting it as something that's inevitable If everyone did it, this shit wouldn't fly. Too bad there are way too many cunts who will wank themselves to sleep over a new 100 million player "their" club signed this week and will lap up anything brought to them like good little customers they are.
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