Subscriber Pyfish+ Posted January 5, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted January 5, 2021 They're capable of it but I can't see it happening. Liverpool are bound to raise their game again soon and United will inevitably hit some bumps in the road too. Sheffield United could still win the league mathematically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 This is anyone’s season to win it. Everyone looks a bit rubbish, so this is the perfect time for someone to do a Leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ Posted January 5, 2021 Author Subscriber Share Posted January 5, 2021 I mean I think United have it in the bag - can’t see them dropping another point all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ Posted January 5, 2021 Author Subscriber Share Posted January 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Lucas said: Yep, hands up I will admit that my hatred other than the obvious rivalry is all down to the successful team you had throughout most the 90's and early 00's. It sickened me you always won. Even when you looked like dropping points you go and bastarding win the fucking game in time added on of the original time added on. And I couldn't stand old Bacon face. He was the master and you can't take that away from him, but he was a bloody wind up cunt The power he held over everyone was unbelievable. Obviously a testament to him and you though. I don't ever want those times back. It was insufferable for me and I'd rather anyone win it than you, won't lie. If you do win it, I will take the rose tinted spectacles off and respect it because it shows you've done something right. You don't win a league without good reason. However I agree with you, I think you are a bit short and I firmly believe if City and Liverpool were at their level, we wouldn't be having this discussion (much to @DeadLinesman frustration) but credit where it's due, they aren't and you keep chugging away. You are winning games you were easily dropping points in over the last 3-4 years and it's a sign of a winning mentality. Dare I say it, but Bruno coming into that team feels a bit like the Cantona catalyst. I just hope to god it doesn't have the same outcome. On the contrary I was always happy for United to win it growing up because it meant Arsenal didn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Honestly bar the odd poster I’m struggling to see this anti-United rhetoric on here. You know when United are doing well because the world is suddenly against them. Personally I like to see a competitive United because who wants to watch a team under perform for years? (Except Liverpool and Leeds fans) I don’t see why United can’t win the league this year, there is no big side like there has been the last 3 seasons. At this point in the competition last season Liverpool has accrued 13 extra points, there is no 90-95+ point team in the division this year and it opens everything up for anyone who can chuck 80 points on the board. I don’t massively rate Ole as a top level manager and his game plan in general, but he’s done a good job of getting Rashford firing and identifying Fernandes. Those two really carry this team. The one good thing he has done is got United back to the point Mourinho had them when they finished second though it’s taken a couple of years, even though he took over essentially the exact same group of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 5, 2021 Administrator Share Posted January 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Danny said: Honestly bar the odd poster I’m struggling to see this anti-United rhetoric on here. You know when United are doing well because the world is suddenly against them. Personally I like to see a competitive United because who wants to watch a team under perform for years? (Except Liverpool and Leeds fans) From a football fan perspective, if it means we get to see the fiery, hotly-anticipated, tense, exciting derbies between Man Utd and Liverpool again then I don't mind them being competitive. From a fan of a club that wants to break in to the 'top 6' and establish ourselves there regularly, then yes, I also want to see United (and any of the top 6) under-perform for years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Just now, Stan said: From a football fan perspective, if it means we get to see the fiery, hotly-anticipated, tense, exciting derbies between Man Utd and Liverpool again then I don't mind them being competitive. From a fan of a club that wants to break in to the 'top 6' and establish ourselves there regularly, then yes, I also want to see United (and any of the top 6) under-perform for years Let’s be honest United Liverpool is one of the worst rivalries going for excitement, generally boring and tight affairs. The real rivalry I want to see is United v Arsenal in full swing. But you make a valid point as a rival for the top 6...outside of it though just doesn’t really make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 5, 2021 Administrator Share Posted January 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, Danny said: Let’s be honest United Liverpool is one of the worst rivalries going for excitement, generally boring and tight affairs. The real rivalry I want to see is United v Arsenal in full swing. But you make a valid point as a rival for the top 6...outside of it though just doesn’t really make sense I know, that's why I said if it can go back to how it used to be then it's good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Stan said: I know, that's why I said if it can go back to how it used to be then it's good It's rare for both sides to be involved in the title race at the same time. United were no where in terms of the league for much of the 70s and 80s, same with Liverpool in the 90s and 00s. The only one that most of us will remember where they've gone head to head for the title will be 08/09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, Stan said: I know, that's why I said if it can go back to how it used to be then it's good It was shit back in the day tbh, neither side wanted to lose so didn’t try to win. Late 90s/early 00s United/Arsenal was peak Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted January 5, 2021 Administrator Share Posted January 5, 2021 42 minutes ago, LFCMike said: It's rare for both sides to be involved in the title race at the same time. United were no where in terms of the league for much of the 70s and 80s, same with Liverpool in the 90s and 00s. The only one that most of us will remember where they've gone head to head for the title will be 08/09 42 minutes ago, Danny said: It was shit back in the day tbh, neither side wanted to lose so didn’t try to win. Late 90s/early 00s United/Arsenal was peak Premier League Not sure if we're crossing wires here. I'm just talking about the games from 90s/00s, not necessarily whether there was a title race or not between the 2. Looking back to that era I remember some good, feisty games between them. Torres tearing Vidic's arse on more than one occasion is a fond memory And yes, United vs Arsenal was also one of the best in that era before they became God-awful 'rather watch paint dry then tear my eyes out' boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 The Manchester United v Arsenal games were good for a period, but it's not a proper rivalry, as shown by the fact by that the teams no longer care about each other. There was never any serious animosity underpinning the games. A rivalry without hatred is no such thing, I'd argue that there are no particuarly good rivalries in England. Certainly in comparison to wonderfully hateful Old Firm which is one of the truest and greatest rivalries in sport. Manchester United can win the league for sure, they'll get no better chance either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted January 6, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted January 6, 2021 I think they've been largely fortunate and it will eventually level out, but I would probably have them to finish 3rd again. I think Manchester City will win it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Manchester City have the added advantage of being able to pick and choose if they fancy playing that day, leaving it as late as 2-3 hours before kick off to decide. Got to be a big help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, The Artful Dodger said: The Manchester United v Arsenal games were good for a period, but it's not a proper rivalry, as shown by the fact by that the teams no longer care about each other. There was never any serious animosity underpinning the games. A rivalry without hatred is no such thing, I'd argue that there are no particuarly good rivalries in England. Certainly in comparison to wonderfully hateful Old Firm which is one of the truest and greatest rivalries in sport. Manchester United can win the league for sure, they'll get no better chance either. I’d say it was a rivalry between players rather than the actual teams that kept it going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted January 6, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, DeadLinesman said: I’d say it was a rivalry between players rather than the actual teams that kept it going. Aye, Keane v Vieira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted January 6, 2021 Subscriber Share Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Happy Blue said: No Subtle. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Storts+ Posted January 31, 2021 Author Subscriber Share Posted January 31, 2021 This was a bit delayed but it’s been working well this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse_Mouse Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 On 05/01/2021 at 13:19, Danny said: The real rivalry I want to see is United v Arsenal in full swing. Since the 60's Liverpool v manu is one of the biggest rivalries in club football. It's followed all over the world with hundreds of millions watching. Arsenal v manu? meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Scouse_Mouse said: Since the 60's Liverpool v manu is one of the biggest rivalries in club football. It's followed all over the world with hundreds of millions watching. Arsenal v manu? meh It being big doesn’t take away from the fact it is very boring, millions watch it because they’re the two biggest teams in the world, not because it’s particularly exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse_Mouse Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 34 minutes ago, Danny said: It being big doesn’t take away from the fact it is very boring, millions watch it because they’re the two biggest teams in the world, not because it’s particularly exciting. Take away what fact exactly? What are you basing on your opinion that Liverpool v Manu games are any more "boring" than any other big game, including manu v arsenal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Scouse_Mouse said: Take away what fact exactly? What are you basing on your opinion that Liverpool v Manu games are any more "boring" than any other big game, including manu v arsenal? Because it is very common knowledge that United vs Liverpool is generally not the most exciting affair, renowned under Ferguson for being a game neither tram tried to win cos they didn’t wanna lose. Where as back in the early noughties Arsenal and Liverpool went blow for blow with eachother with the title on the line, that was United vs Arsenal in full swing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse_Mouse Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, Danny said: Because it is very common knowledge that United vs Liverpool is generally not the most exciting affair, renowned under Ferguson for being a game neither tram tried to win cos they didn’t wanna lose. Where as back in the early noughties Arsenal and Liverpool went blow for blow with eachother with the title on the line, that was United vs Arsenal in full swing. Sorry but I don't agree about this common knowledge of yours? I think you might be confusing personal opinion with fact Danny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, Scouse_Mouse said: Sorry but I don't agree about this common knowledge of yours? I think you might be confusing personal opinion with fact Danny. I think you might be confusing my response with actually caring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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