Redcanuck Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Its historic, England invented modern soccer and made the first rules of the sport. Subsequently the first football association ever created was the English one, followed by Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. This makes the 4 associations the oldest in the world. As a result all 4 associations have a permanent seat on the rules committee that determines the rules of the sport. seeing as there are only 8 total seats and only these 4 are permanent it gives the British associations a large deal of power within the sport. With that sort of power it's unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toinho Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Spike said: I want to see an English passport Haha. I used to have a British Passport. Surely that says it all. British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverted Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Scotland and England invented the concept of Intl football and the first Intl fixture was played in Glasgow. So I think it's pretty reasonable. Intl football isn't strictly played between sovereign states; its played between FAs. Each of the smaller British nations have more footballing heritage than 90% of participants in Intl football anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 18 hours ago, Danny said: Can't tell if this is satire or not, so fair play because the more I read it the more I get Brent/Partridge vibes We had this conversation last year or the one before. I’m not biting this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, DeadLinesman said: We had this conversation last year or the one before. I’m not biting this time It covers so many angles of international hatred as well to just assume Britain is the country and that’s it, England/Scotland, Wales/England and ofc the attempt at telling Catholics that not only is their country currently ruled by Britain…it is now the country of Britain. You’d get slapped so many times Will Smith would join in too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Yet to see a Pom actually explain why England is a country and Texas isn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Danny said: It covers so many angles of international hatred as well to just assume Britain is the country and that’s it, England/Scotland, Wales/England and ofc the attempt at telling Catholics that not only is their country currently ruled by Britain…it is now the country of Britain. You’d get slapped so many times Will Smith would join in too Interesting reasoning, since I don't remember you to've intervened, when somebody spoke about West or East Germany! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Spike said: Yet to see a Pom actually explain why England is a country and Texas isn’t First sentence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England First sentence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: First sentence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England First sentence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas - a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory. - a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government. Sounds like the same thing to me. But which is which? https://study.com/academy/lesson/the-difference-between-countries-nations-states-and-governments.html According to this site the states in the USA aren’t states at all and are political subdivisions. By that definition that would apply to England as well, as it is a sub to the UK. And if you look up the definition of shire ‘an administrative subdivision’, we will find out that Texas and England are both shires. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Spike said: - a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory. - a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government. Sounds like the same thing to me. But which is which? https://study.com/academy/lesson/the-difference-between-countries-nations-states-and-governments.html According to this site the states in the USA aren’t states at all and are political subdivisions. By that definition that would apply to England as well, as it is a sub to the UK. And if you look up the definition of shire ‘an administrative subdivision’, we will find out that Texas and England are both shires. Problem solved. Both states and countries are something people just made up tbh. With the UK someone made up the idea that the UK is made up of 4 countries, the people in those countries all seem to think they're countries. With Texas there was a whole process they had to go through to become a state, so they're a state. Doesn't really matter if that website says "US states aren't really states" if pretty much everyone considers that the states of the US are in fact states. Because then that website is just wrong, because the states are... states. Don't take it up with us, take it up with the dead people who decided these things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Both states and countries are something people just made up tbh. With the UK someone made up the idea that the UK is made up of 4 countries, the people in those countries all seem to think they're countries. With Texas there was a whole process they had to go through to become a state, so they're a state. Doesn't really matter if that website says "US states aren't really states" if pretty much everyone considers that the states of the US are in fact states. Because then that website is just wrong, because the states are... states. Don't take it up with us, take it up with the dead people who decided these things It was obviously a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Spike said: It was obviously a joke It's a weird joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: It's a weird joke How? It was a joke about semantics and definitions of words. Pretty straightforward, I thought calling them shires was a dead giveaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toinho Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I mean whether it is or not is an interesting debate, however as someone mentioned before football recognises many non sovereign states. Montserrat, Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland, Bermuda, Tahiti, Faroe Islands, Hong Kong, to name a few. Taiwan probably are too now I think about it. But then they don't recognise, Monaco, Vatican City, etc. Then they recognise Gibraltar for some reason. Really is odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 iM nOt bEeing sErEUs iT wAs A jOkE rOfL gOt yOu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, Whiskey said: iM nOt bEeing sErEUs iT wAs A jOkE rOfL gOt yOu Even if its not a joke he's not wrong. Not our fault you live in a pineapple under the sea, and not a real country. If England is a country why was it 'brexit' not exit? And why did you drag poor fucking Scotland with you into trade oblivion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spike Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 53 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Even if its not a joke he's not wrong. Not our fault you live in a pineapple under the sea, and not a real country. If England is a country why was it 'brexit' not exit? And why did you drag poor fucking Scotland with you into trade oblivion? They are all seperate countries, idiot. That is why when Scotland voted to remain in the EU, they instead left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Spike said: They are all seperate countries, idiot. That is why when Scotland voted to remain in the EU, they instead left. My mistake, would suck to hold a Scottish passport right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, Devil-Dick Willie said: My mistake, would suck to hold a Scottish passport right now. I heard at the English border they confiscate Scottish passports upon entry with no Visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Even if its not a joke he's not wrong. Not our fault you live in a pineapple under the sea, and not a real country. If England is a country why was it 'brexit' not exit? And why did you drag poor fucking Scotland with you into trade oblivion? Australia is only famous for being far away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted March 30, 2022 Administrator Share Posted March 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Whiskey said: Australia is only famous for being far away. And upside down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 And having real beaches And mineral wealth And free trade agreements And not raining all the time And seeing the sun every day And not being full of unfuckable buck tooth losers who spend their day on a football forum. If you can read this, I luv u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: And having real beaches And mineral wealth And free trade agreements And not raining all the time And seeing the sun every day And not being full of unfuckable buck tooth losers who spend their day on a football forum. If you can read this, I luv u Don't have Wetherspoons though do you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: And having real beaches And mineral wealth And free trade agreements And not raining all the time And seeing the sun every day And not being full of unfuckable buck tooth losers who spend their day on a football forum. If you can read this, I luv u Well that isn’t true in Lismore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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