Donald Trump

[Cicero]

Completely forget about Biden’s involvement in that. That’ll definitely hurt him: 

[Harry]

2 minutes ago, Cicero said:

Completely forget about Biden’s involvement in that. That’ll definitely hurt him: 

Despite that is hard to see him being as unpopular as Hillary by November. The character assassination against her was ten years in the making.

[Harry]

The other risk is that trump or Biden actually get Covid. A significant hospitalisation of either candidate would be damaging to their prospects.

[Dr. Gonzo]

3 minutes ago, Harry said:

Yeah I think Biden has a solid chance of winning reelection however my concerns will be:

voter suppression through the pandemic, with red governed swing states like Florida Georgia and Ohio denying vote by mail options and/or limiting the number of polling stations for "safety" in ways that disproportionately prohibit black people from voting.

Major impropriety by trump campaign like the flynn document "unmasking". Politically motivated declassification of documents from the Obama era to create scandals for Biden and a sense of false equivalence and the effort to substantiate Obamagate into something. Given he got away with bribing Ukraine I suspect the level of corruption exhibited by the trump campaign on this front will be plain as day. Bill Barr almost sure to feature.

 

I’m sure he’ll try to whip up a Burisma scandal and try to have Biden testify before the election.

 

42 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said:

I don't know how old you are mate. But in my life the 2 truths about 'the masses'voting in politics I've learned are...

1. People don't think about policy when voting. They consider only popular opinion, perceived personality of the candidates and media shine or lack thereof on the candidates. And now, and worryingly increasingly, due to identity politics."I don't care that 90% of this parties policies benefit me directly, how dare they represent gay equality and change to immigration policy"  It's all soundbites and slogans.  In our recent national election the liberals (slut fucked up conservative government of Australia who hate the working class) won, getting a consecutive reelection during a recession of their own making through horrid and greedy economic policy, and post a royal commission that they repeatedly tried to squash that found they had let the banks get away with everything besides murder.

Their campaign was essentially "Australia is the best country in the world why would we change it?" (again, during a drought throughout which their donor corporations had stolen water in immeasurable amounts and a recession of their own design, with the barrier reef literally fading away and our housing market only approachable to those with equity (aka more houses)
As opposed to Labor who were going to attempt to revitalize our declining health and school systems, save the economy with sensible economic policies including removing franking credits, attacking Australias worlds worst housing market and tearing the corruption behind it and the banking sector down, taxing multinationals ect ect. Good environmental policy and so on and so on. No one bothered to read or understand it though. The working class get hamstrung by declining education standards and lied to by all levels of available media to them, then vote against their own interests without ever actually knowing what was good for them in the first place.

Labor: We're going to make houses actually affordable for first home buyers, rather than investment groups and rich multi property owners. 
Liberals and the media: New labor policy will make rental prices rise. 
YES BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY BE LIVING IN THE MAJORITY OF HOMES IN THE COUNTRY NOT RENTING THEM OUT FFS.

And then the nation caught fire and it turns out the liberals had cut 2/3rds off rural fire services. i hate this country so fucking much it actually hurts. 

And number 2. People vote reactive, not proactive. That's Bidens ONLY hope, but the media bias against him will be that the USA needs a 'Strong leader" (A fuckwit) not a demented man whos health is failing and mind is deteriorating.
 

I think the state of America makes it hard to run on “keep America great” - the one thing he could point to was employment and the stock market, those are gone.

I think most people are tired of political chaos, so all Biden’s campaign really has to be is “look, when I was next to the presidency America was way less of a shithole than what this idiot took us to” and Trump will say a bunch of shit about how he’s the best person to have ever lived, and tell everyone to ignore how America’s fallen apart. I think there’s too many big issues for too many people to ignore Trump’s leadership.

[Devil-Dick Willie]

And some of it her own making, but she was also a clinton and a woman. 2 hugely powerful benefactor traits that Biden lacks.  

[Devil-Dick Willie]

5 minutes ago, Harry said:

I agree that identity is key but shorten was a candidate with negative favourability rating, like Clinton and trump. Scomo was not, and nor is Biden.

 

My issue is the idea that Shorten, who was a hero at Beaconsfield leading the party with policies that are actually intended to benefit the nation, not line pockets wasn't fit to lead the nation because deros and nanas from south west Sydney think he has a funny noggin, rather than anything to do with policy or actually leading the nation. 

[Devil-Dick Willie]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I’m sure he’ll try to whip up a Burisma scandal and try to have Biden testify before the election.

 

I think the state of America makes it hard to run on “keep America great” - the one thing he could point to was employment and the stock market, those are gone.

I think most people are tired of political chaos, so all Biden’s campaign really has to be is “look, when I was next to the presidency America was way less of a shithole than what this idiot took us to” and Trump will say a bunch of shit about how he’s the best person to have ever lived, and tell everyone to ignore how America’s fallen apart. I think there’s too many big issues for too many people to ignore Trump’s leadership.

Trump will point to the fact (and rightfully so) that unemployment and the stock market was not his fault. Then he'll blame a powerful external factor to unite the nation against. (likely China)

Then he'll base his head to head campaign around how weak, old and feeble Biden is, his metal deterioration ect. 

[Cicero]

For those looking for neutral media sources, I suggest Philip DeFranco on YouTube. 
 

Been watching him for a couple weeks now. No agenda. No rhetoric. No fake news. 
 

Breath of fresh air. 

[Harry]

34 minutes ago, Cicero said:

For those looking for neutral media sources, I suggest Philip DeFranco on YouTube. 
 

Been watching him for a couple weeks now. No agenda. No rhetoric. No fake news. 
 

Breath of fresh air. 

Will check him out but I prefer to read news than watch it. Never been a bit YouTuber.

I'm comfortable with the Washington Post for neutrality though. They have a mix of journalists from the SJW types that freak out about everything through to the well respected conservative columnists like George Will, Hugh Hewitt, Jennifer Rubin etc.

For me they are on another level to the Times or other major media outlets, all of whom seen less centrist by volume.

[Azeem]

He's now trying to expand G7 but excluding China, not the right time to do so

[Dr. Gonzo]

9 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said:

Trump will point to the fact (and rightfully so) that unemployment and the stock market was not his fault. Then he'll blame a powerful external factor to unite the nation against. (likely China)

Then he'll base his head to head campaign around how weak, old and feeble Biden is, his metal deterioration ect. 

Yeah might (wrongly) say that, but nothing takes away from the fact his own advisors have said the US acting earlier would have saved lives if the US had an actual coronavirus response. He’s President, he owns America’s response to the virus.

You can make ads against Trump just using clips of Trump (and the people around him) criticising Trump.

And the idea that he’s capable of uniting anyone over an external enemy requires people to ignore the last 4 years. The man can’t even unify people when he’s sending them money.

[Devil-Dick Willie]

24 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Yeah might (wrongly) say that, but nothing takes away from the fact his own advisors have said the US acting earlier would have saved lives if the US had an actual coronavirus response. He’s President, he owns America’s response to the virus.

You can make ads against Trump just using clips of Trump (and the people around him) criticising Trump.

And the idea that he’s capable of uniting anyone over an external enemy requires people to ignore the last 4 years. The man can’t even unify people when he’s sending them money.

All I'm saying is you're greatly greatly greatly underestimating the capacity for the average person to vote based on identity and rhetoric. I'd have thought after Brexit, trumps victory over Hilary ect you'd know better. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

3 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said:

All I'm saying is you're greatly greatly greatly underestimating the capacity for the average person to vote based on identity and rhetoric. I'd have thought after Brexit, trumps victory over Hilary ect you'd know better. 

I think this is different to the first election or Brexit because Trump is no longer an unknown. He’s just been a disaster.

[Mpache]

This video was fantastic when it came out, still very relevant now

 

[Spike]

27 minutes ago, Inti Brian said:

This video was fantastic when it came out, still very relevant now

 

He really is a cunt of the highest order. What a gremlin.

[Stan]

3 minutes ago, Spike said:

He really is a cunt of the highest order. What a gremlin.

I quite like Michael Rapaport but each to their own

[Dr. Gonzo]

https://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-didnt-expect-trump-deploy-more-troops-after-esper-call-2020-6

Dickless Donald wants to use tanks now.

I think he wants to make this the US's Tiananmen Square moment. Here's what he said about that incident back in 1990: "When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak...as being spit on by the rest of the world."

It's interesting he thought Tiananmen Square was a moment of strength for China, but it's also a pretty horrific quote.

I do think it's funny in that article someone who works in the White House said "I don't think he means actual tanks, it's just one of the few military words he knows." But I think he meant exactly what he said, because normally when some republican has tried to clarify what Trump said and meant, it's usually bullshit and he said and meant exactly what he said in the first place.

[Carnivore Chris]

Devil dick donald.

 

 

[God is Haaland]

Bet he dissolved the ashes of Trump Sr in milk and drank it.

[Harry]

8 hours ago, Inti Brian said:

This video was fantastic when it came out, still very relevant now

 

That is epic. I never saw it.

Love that guy. He's just built for swearing like that

[Harry]

Some of the anti trump ads lately have been devastating

 

 

[Harry]

James Mattis has released a statement. Probably the most universally respected of trumps original cabinet, the former Secretary of Defence has packed a few punches.

 

In Union There Is Strength
I have watched this week’s unfolding events, angry and appalled.

The words “Equal Justice Under Law” are carved in the pediment of the United States Supreme Court. This is precisely what protesters are rightly demanding. It is a wholesome and unifying demand—one that all of us should be able to get behind.

We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation.

When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troopst takingthat same oath would be ordered under any circumstance tov violatethe Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less top providea bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, withm military leadership standing alongside.

We must reject any thinking of our cities as a “battlespace” that our uniformed military is called upon to “dominate.” At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—
between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them.

James Madison wrote in Federalist 14 that “America united with a handful of troops, or without a single soldier, exhibits a more forbidding posture to foreign ambition than America disunited, with a hundred thousand veterans ready for combat.” We do not need to militarize our response to protests. We need to unite around a common
purpose. And it starts by guaranteeing that all of us are equal before the law.

Instructions given by the military departments to our troops before the Normandy invasion reminded soldiers that “The Nazi slogan for destroying us…was ‘Divide and Conquer.’ Our American answer is ‘In Union there is Strength.’” We must summon that unity to surmount this crisis—confident that we are better than our politics.

Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children.

We can come through this trying time stronger, and with a renewed sense of purpose and respect for one another. The pandemic has shown us that it is not only our troops who are willing to offer the ultimate sacrifice for the safety of the community. Americans in hospitals, grocery stores, post offices, and elsewhere have put their
lives on the line in order to serve their fellow citizens and their country. We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square. We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution. At the same time, we must remember Lincoln’s “better angels,” and listen to them, as we work to unite.

Only by adopting a new path—which means, in truth, returning to the original path of our founding ideals—will we again be a country admired and respected at home and abroad.

James Mattis

[Azeem]

Speaking of Donalds dick there is a fair share of controversy around it's existence

[Dr. Gonzo]

6 hours ago, Azeem said:

Speaking of Donalds dick there is a fair share of controversy around it's existence

Nah he’s fucked porn stars and paid them to keep quiet but Stormy Daniels confirmed its existence. It’s just small and apparently looks like Toad from Mario.

[Mpache]

1 minute ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Nah he’s fucked porn stars and paid them to keep quiet but Stormy Daniels confirmed its existence. It’s just small and apparently looks like Toad from Mario.

Is Stormy Daniels a real person then? My cousin bought a cat and named it Stormy, and my dad said "you named it after a pornstar" I thought he was just taking the piss