Pep Talk Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Who would you say has the most chance at winning it? is it not realistic for a PL team to be in contention to win it yet? I guess whoever has the best depth will be in the best position. Due to the style of play in the PL people use that as why european success is always harder to come by. thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted July 30, 2017 Administrator Share Posted July 30, 2017 can't see an English team winning it. Barca/Juve/Real/PSG/Atletico/Bayern are stronger than all English teams right now. Maybe Dortmund too. Man City or Chelsea might be the closest to coming to winning it. Maybe reach the quarters but that's it. Don't think Man Utd and Liverpool will get that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 City should be there or thereabouts given the amount they've spent but I don't think they will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Think 4 of the 5 will make the semi's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said: Think 4 of the 5 will make the semi's I think all 5 can manage it to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I fancy United and Liverpool to do well but then both managers will use it as a bullshit excuse for not challenging for the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, SirBalon said: I think all 5 can manage it to be honest. More chance Arsenal go out to Bayern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 GK:- Moraes, Bravo, Gunn DF:- Walker, Kompany, Stones, Mendy, Danilo, Otamnedi, Mangala MF:- De Bruyne ,Gundogan, Silva, Yaya, Fernandinho, Danilo, Nasri, Diaz, Foden, Garcia, Delph, Zinchenko WG:- Bernardo, Sane, Sterling, Roberts, Jesus ST:- Aguero, Jesus, Bony, Moreno This squad is equal to any in the world and has beaten every good team in Europe in recent years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Stan said: can't see an English team winning it. Barca/Juve/Real/PSG/Atletico/Bayern are stronger than all English teams right now. Maybe Dortmund too. Man City or Chelsea might be the closest to coming to winning it. Maybe reach the quarters but that's it. Don't think Man Utd and Liverpool will get that far. You can discount us in all honesty. City might have a good run at it though I think I don't believe we have enough squad depth to last the course on all fronts.. Last season was deceptive and has given most the impression we are a little higher up in the food chain than we actually are in reality. We only had the League and the Cups to worry about and we were pushed all the way in the league by Spurs and failed to win a Cup even though we got to a Final we lost to a team that in fairness had one of the worst seasons form wise for some time. I don't think we will be awful by any stretch but don't believe we will be setting the pace either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Still a lot of time in the window, and our board has done a terrific job so far so I expect more signings coming in, especially at wing backs. Reckon Conte will still need time to adapt to Europe as well as the league. Didn't excel with Juventus either. That said, I can see us doing well again in the league but below expectations in Europe. Possibly a quarterfinal exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cannabis said: I don't think a quarter final exit is "below expectations". We are coming off a title win and 200+ million transfer window. If no English club makes it to a semi final this year, it will yet again show how poor the standard is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 26 minutes ago, Cicero said: We are coming off a title win and 200+ million transfer window. If no English club makes it to a semi final this year, it will yet again show how poor the standard is Not true, it shows the opposite infact ..the only reason the English teams struggle in Europe is because 80% of the games they play are fast paced competitive games compared to the 20% the likes of Madrid, Barca, Munich etc play a season and as a result are a lot fresher without heavy legs and less injurys in the Champions league games, English teams should have a bye to the knockouts to even it up a little and have a Christmas break too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 34 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: Not true, it shows the opposite infact ..the only reason the English teams struggle in Europe is because 80% of the games they play are fast paced competitive games compared to the 20% the likes of Madrid, Barca, Munich etc play a season and as a result are a lot fresher without heavy legs and less injurys in the Champions league games, English teams should have a bye to the knockouts to even it up a little and have a Christmas break too So why do English clubs lose in the early rounds of the Champions League when we're only one month into the league season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 minute ago, SirBalon said: So why do English clubs lose in the early rounds of the Champions League when we're only one month into the league season? Most English teams don't hit top form early season, they pace themselfs for the loooooooooong battle ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted July 30, 2017 Administrator Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Happy Blue said: Most English teams don't hit top form early season, they pace themselfs for the loooooooooong battle ahead unlike Arsenal who pace themselves til February then implode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just now, Happy Blue said: Most English teams don't hit top form early season, they pace themselfs for the loooooooooong battle ahead Oh right! Ok then... I've worked it out now! At the start it's because English clubs fuelled 90% with foreign players and coaches haven't got their engines in tune yet.... And later on they fail because the English league season is so fast paced that they're suffering from some sort of vertigo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 30 minutes ago, SirBalon said: Oh right! Ok then... I've worked it out now! At the start it's because English clubs fuelled 90% with foreign players and coaches haven't got their engines in tune yet.... And later on they fail because the English league season is so fast paced that they're suffering from some sort of vertigo? We have just DESTROYED Real Madrid 4-1 while fresh ...night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard Posted July 30, 2017 Administrator Share Posted July 30, 2017 It's all cyclical, as with before, English clubs will do well in Europe again. At the moment it's Spains time in the spotlight, it'll pass, all thing do. Well. Adel Taarabt aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted July 30, 2017 Administrator Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just now, Batard said: It's all cyclical, as with before, English clubs will do well in Europe again. At the moment it's Spains time in the spotlight, it'll pass, all thing do. Well. Adel Taarabt aside. it'll be Italy's turn next I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted July 30, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted July 30, 2017 I expect 4 of the 5 to get through the groups. One of Tottenham or Liverpool will blow it, and I'm edging towards Liverpool. Spurs round of 16, Man City & Man Utd quarters, Chelsea semis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: We have just DESTROYED Real Madrid 4-1 while fresh ...night! Mate, everyone's been destroying Real Madrid so far this pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 1 minute ago, SirBalon said: Mate, everyone's been destroying Real Madrid so far this pre-season. Which proves the Spanish league is rubbish! ...we even spanked Barca early season last year before the games piled up and injury's happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: Which proves the Spanish league is rubbish! ...we even spanked Barca early season last year before the games piled up and injury's happened Indeed... Everyone knows pre-season games are the measuring stick for a league's worth. I've never debated or contested it mate. Man City spanking teams in pre-season is enough for me. I can't believe anyone else has even challenged this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Happy Blue said: GK:- Moraes, Bravo, Gunn DF:- Walker, Kompany, Stones, Mendy, Danilo, Otamnedi, Mangala MF:- De Bruyne ,Gundogan, Silva, Yaya, Fernandinho, Danilo, Nasri, Diaz, Foden, Garcia, Delph, Zinchenko WG:- Bernardo, Sane, Sterling, Roberts, Jesus ST:- Aguero, Jesus, Bony, Moreno This squad is equal to any in the world and has beaten every good team in Europe in recent years Can't believe that's the defence you have after having spent a fortune on it. The midfield from a defensive point of view is quite weak as well but in terms of creativity it is quality. Aguero is a quality, but injury prone, striker. Jesus is a decent youngster although he looks like he wastes a lot of chances. Definitely not equal to the squads of Bayern Munich, Juventus, Real Madrid or Barcelona. Don't think it even stands out in the Premier League. It all seems to be built around if Aguero can outscore the opposition with all the chances a creative midfield creates for him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Just now, SirBalon said: Indeed... Everyone knows pre-season games are the measuring stick for a league's worth. I've never debated or contested it mate. Man City slacking teams in pre-season is enough for me. I can't believe anyone else has even challenged this. Id love to stay and chat but Teletubbies has just started and matron will be around shortly with a fresh pair of rubber underpants ..toodle pip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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