Rick Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 48 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: I have my issues with the season but I don't know what else people want from the last episode. It's hardly going to be jam packed with action, this one is more about resolutions and that's what we got. Nobody wanted action. We just wanted a better resolution. Quote
Cicero Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, Rick said: Nobody wanted action. We just wanted a better resolution. What would of been a better resolution? In your eyes. Quote
Moderator Tommy Posted May 21, 2019 Moderator Posted May 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Viva la FCB said: The last episode wasnt even much of a let down; I expected very little and sure enough thats what we got. Quote
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted May 21, 2019 Subscriber Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Rick said: Nobody wanted action. We just wanted a better resolution. Bran being King is weird and not set up well at all, and some aspects were rushed, but I thought most of the resolutions were satisfying, Jon gets to go North, Sansa rules Winterfell, Arya gets to do whatever the fuck she likes, Tyrion is hand of the king, Sam is a maester (though he shouldn't be grand maester all of a sudden), Brienne and Podrick are knights, Dany died in the manner she was supposed to and the iron throne got melted after several people died trying to get or control it and keep it, from the Mad King to Viserys to Renly and Stannis to Tywin, all of the Tyrells, Littlefinger, Euron, Cersei and finally Daenerys. 1 Quote
Rick Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Cicero said: What would of been a better resolution? In your eyes. Just to be given more than six episodes to flesh out the ending. The show deserved it. Quote
Cicero Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) GRRM needs to get his shit together and finish the books. I want to read his ending. Jon is still dead. We still don't know who his mother is or if GRRM plans to resurrect him. Aegon and his men are sailing for StormsEnd Dany is still in Meereen Edited May 21, 2019 by Cicero Quote
Harry Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 5 hours ago, RandoEFC said: I have my issues with the season but I don't know what else people want from the last episode. It's hardly going to be jam packed with action, this one is more about resolutions and that's what we got. Totally agree. Martin always said he was going for a Lord of the rings type ending. I can see the parallels. I'd give it a 9/10. 3 hours ago, RandoEFC said: Bran being King is weird and not set up well at all, and some aspects were rushed, but I thought most of the resolutions were satisfying, Jon gets to go North, Sansa rules Winterfell, Arya gets to do whatever the fuck she likes, Tyrion is hand of the king, Sam is a maester (though he shouldn't be grand maester all of a sudden), Brienne and Podrick are knights, Dany died in the manner she was supposed to and the iron throne got melted after several people died trying to get or control it and keep it, from the Mad King to Viserys to Renly and Stannis to Tywin, all of the Tyrells, Littlefinger, Euron, Cersei and finally Daenerys. When I recognised the reasons bran made sense, and that Tyrion had got his backstory at Winterfell I actually liked the Bran result. I knew going in to watching it that bran was $1.01 to end up on the throne and I said there was no conceivable way that could be done plausibly except if Bran warged into Dany. In the end this plotlineconmfortably exceeded my expectations. 51 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I doubt he ever finishes the books now tbh. I'm hoping for a renewed energy when he watches and then feels the urges to improve the flow of the final chapters, particularly after the public outcry. Quote
Fairy In Boots Posted May 21, 2019 Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Cannabis said: I feel quite smug that GOT ended up shite. I could have told you all years ago and saved you the trouble. It didn’t though. 1 Quote
Moderator Tommy Posted May 22, 2019 Moderator Posted May 22, 2019 14 hours ago, Cannabis said: I feel quite smug that GOT ended up shite. I could have told you all years ago and saved you the trouble. You think everything is shite because you're a miserable bastard though Quote
Cicero Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 15 hours ago, Cannabis said: I feel quite smug that GOT ended up shite. I could have told you all years ago and saved you the trouble. Those that found it shite find WWE entertaining. 1 1 Quote
Moderator Tommy Posted May 22, 2019 Moderator Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Cicero said: Those that found it shite find WWE entertaining. Nope. Quote
Cicero Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 Disappointed nearly 50% of fans. By the sound of it, you'd think it be more Quote
Harry Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 I feel for the producers tbh. Not sure they knew what they were getting themselves in for when they limited it to 13 episodes but I'm willing to bet it was budget related, and whilst HBO didn't constrain the episode count they did constrain the budget. This show deserved to make more money than the Lord of the rings movies or the Marvel franchise but it's on that same level of awesome. I'll bet it didn't make a patch on that. Hence the budget constraints still being a limiting factor. For sure it felt a bit rushed, (about on par with the Harry Potter movies for me in terms of pacing) but within the confines of that they did a pretty great job. The internet has been Savage, which is understandable given the love people have. But let's not forget these are the guys who holed GRRM up and persuaded him to make a tv show about his unfinished books, who already knew enough about the series to call the R+L=J thing this passing GRRMs test, and then put together a fucking sensational show which continued to be pretty damn amazing even after they went way way beyond the source material. There's been ups and downs but All time levels of respect from me. Quote
Rick Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Harry said: I feel for the producers tbh. Not sure they knew what they were getting themselves in for when they limited it to 13 episodes but I'm willing to bet it was budget related, and whilst HBO didn't constrain the episode count they did constrain the budget. This show deserved to make more money than the Lord of the rings movies or the Marvel franchise but it's on that same level of awesome. I'll bet it didn't make a patch on that. Hence the budget constraints still being a limiting factor. For sure it felt a bit rushed, (about on par with the Harry Potter movies for me in terms of pacing) but within the confines of that they did a pretty great job. The internet has been Savage, which is understandable given the love people have. But let's not forget these are the guys who holed GRRM up and persuaded him to make a tv show about his unfinished books, who already knew enough about the series to call the R+L=J thing this passing GRRMs test, and then put together a fucking sensational show which continued to be pretty damn amazing even after they went way way beyond the source material. There's been ups and downs but All time levels of respect from me. Mate, HBO wanted 10 seasons and offered them more money. They refused because they want to fuck off and do star wars. And hbo could replace them because GRRM won't let anybody else do the show, he has an agreement in place for that. Quote
Harry Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rick said: Mate, HBO wanted 10 seasons and offered them more money. They refused because they want to fuck off and do star wars. And hbo could replace them because GRRM won't let anybody else do the show, he has an agreement in place for that. Mate this argument which is pretty pervasive on social media reeks of misinformation and being strung together from a bunch of half true tweets and articles. It's too convenient for me that a bunch of social media commentators from the outside can all simplify and diagnose the root cause of all our pain and frustration down to a single scapegoat. Things are rarely ever that simple. Especially when the decision for 13 episodes was announced long ago and none of the many articles spoke about that being because the D's were just over it and wanted to get out. They took 3 years to make these 13 episodes rather than the usual 2 years to make 20. Why are the producers the only ones we'll believe wanted a new project not everyone else who's worked just as tirelessly on the show for just as long? It's all too simplistic for me to pin all this blame on the two guys who's years of effort and passion suggests to me care more about the show than anybody. Edited May 23, 2019 by Harry Quote
Rick Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 5 hours ago, Harry said: Mate this argument which is pretty pervasive on social media reeks of misinformation and being strung together from a bunch of half true tweets and articles. It's too convenient for me that a bunch of social media commentators from the outside can all simplify and diagnose the root cause of all our pain and frustration down to a single scapegoat. Things are rarely ever that simple. Especially when the decision for 13 episodes was announced long ago and none of the many articles spoke about that being because the D's were just over it and wanted to get out. They took 3 years to make these 13 episodes rather than the usual 2 years to make 20. Why are the producers the only ones we'll believe wanted a new project not everyone else who's worked just as tirelessly on the show for just as long? It's all too simplistic for me to pin all this blame on the two guys who's years of effort and passion suggests to me care more about the show than anybody. There's not many things bigger than Game Of Throne. But a Star Wars trilogy is one of them. Can you imagine telling Disney "oh yeah, we want that but we will see you in five years once we tie up this". No chance that deal stays on the table. Sometimes rumours are right. And I've heard it from the mouth of people in the business on podcasts, so I tend to believe there's elements of truth about it. Quote
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted May 24, 2019 Subscriber Posted May 24, 2019 Who knew that Ramin could actually rock it out too. Nice. Quote
6666 Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 Interesting. I can see why simpletons enjoyed the last 2 seasons... 1 Quote
Harry Posted May 25, 2019 Posted May 25, 2019 Looks more like proof of how rushed the story is on the later seasons. All the battle episodes are very low which has been the case since season 2. The more of those the are the more it brings down the average. Quote
Machado Posted May 26, 2019 Posted May 26, 2019 It's a good thing there were less words since the dialogue was shit now anyway. 2 Quote
Machado Posted May 27, 2019 Posted May 27, 2019 *End of game of thrones* So the Bran becoming king part was a filler? Would have preferred if it had ended with Dany dying tbh. The epilogue was shit. Quote
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