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Wednesday 19th April - Barcelona (0) 0-0 (3) Juventus

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SirBalon    914
4 minutes ago, Luis Suarez said:

I used to be all about "El Clasico", but I gotta say this season's Champions League has overshadowed anything and everything else (the fact that we didn't capitalize in La Liga matches didn't help). 

 
Incidentally, El Clasico is on St Jordi's Day this year :-) Anyone know how to say: "A Rose for Love and a Book Forever this St Jordi's Day" in Catalan and Castilian? Thanks in advance.
 
Does anyone think that Barca can comeback next Tuesday at the Camp Nou? No "Uefalona" conspiracy theories, please. I'm interested in hearing whether anyone GENUINELY thinks we can comeback against the Old Lady.
 
Per the UEFA Rankings, PSG is #6. Juve is #5. 
 
The Italians are going to play their catenaccio, yes, but
 
Camp Nou is a different animal.
 
For some reason I keep thinking back to the Chelsea 2012 Champions League winning campaign when all the stars kept aligning for them in the CL even when they didn't do too well in the domestic league. Hoping we do a "Chelsea 2012" (yes, I know, ironically enough) in the Champions League.
 
It might be heretical to say this but the CL is in some ways EASIER to win than La Liga. PROPORTIONALLY, a team can lose more games in the CL and still win it. There's less of a margin of error in La Liga where consistency is key.
 
By this very definition, FC Barcelona has been BY FAR the very best team in Europe these past 10+ years (8 times Champions of Spain in 12 years)
 
It's well established that La Liga has been (by far) the toughest/best league in Europe for the past 5 years, at least. La Liga has the toughest strength of schedule. 
 
Serie A is no La Liga:  I'm not convinced our Champions League campaign ends just yet.

This is the wrong thread for this debate but I'll give my opinion...

I personally never thought the comeback against PSG was possible before the return leg and I thought it was more impossible after Cavani's goal at the Camp Nou.

Too many planets aligned themselves that night to make it possible to witness the greatest ever football comeback at the top level.  There's a reason why these things don't tend to occur to be honest.

I don't know how defensive Juventus will be but they'll have hindsight (something PSG didn't have in their Camp Nou experience) as a tool for this next game.  Juve are by nature an attacking side these days although they do know how to be ultra defensive (they are an Italian side at the end of the day) and they'll concentrate on not making too many errors.  I can't see the comeback this time although in football anything is possible.

Another Italian side done a similar thing to Barça and then got done at the Camp Nou not all that many moons ago, so it can be done and isn't as difficult goals wise as the PSG adventure was.  Another thing to take into account was that Barcelona were much much worse in Paris than they were in Turin.  Infact Barça's second half performance (mainly down to unusual Juve nerves) was very good and coupled with chances in the first half, Barcelona could've actually had a more than decent result.  The issue is that Juve have a big part of the passage sorted which I'm sure makes the job easier for Max Allegri.

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Dan    296

I don't care what happened last round. Barca are going this time. Juve are a better side.

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Eco    255

Love to see the Italians go through, but again, I don't really like either of these teams.

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Cicero    598

Sneaking feeling Barca will get the result they need. 

They were hardly lacking any attacking attempts the 1st leg, just a lack of efficiency. 

Don't know what it is about the Nou Camp but teams just seem to forget how to play football. As much as I'd like to see Juve go through, can't help but think Barca will make it happen again...

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True Blue    237

Scenario:

Early lead by Barcelona, Juventus to get a player sent off by half time. In the second one more goal early on to make it 2-0. Barcelona gets a dodgy decision and the y make it 3-0, the intensity is now high Suarez and Neymar dive their hearts out and get the much needed non existent penalty. Suarez slots it in for another amazing comeback better than the return of Jesus Christ.

Mes que un club.

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Danny    219

The best thing for this competition is a Juventus win in my opinion, Real Madrid winning it again would be boring.

But I would love to see a Messi inspired comeback, not because I'm a fanboy but because at his very best he's been the greatest footballer I've ever seen and these are exactly the sorts of seasons or matches where big players need to step up.

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True Blue    237
3 minutes ago, Danny said:

The best thing for this competition is a Juventus win in my opinion, Real Madrid winning it again would be boring.

But I would love to see a Messi inspired comeback, not because I'm a fanboy but because at his very best he's been the greatest footballer I've ever seen and these are exactly the sorts of seasons or matches where big players need to step up.

Fucking fanboy :banana:

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Mel81x    107

Barcelona are saying bye to the Champions League this season tonite. I highly doubt Allegri is going to go to the Camp Nou and try to be defensive with the players he has at his disposal. That would be suicide. As SirBalon said above it wasn't like Barcelona were horrible in Turin, Juventus were just that much better. 

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Eco    255
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The Bianconeri hold a 3-0 lead from the first leg of the Champions League quarter-final, but Barça overturned a 4-0 deficit against Paris Saint-Germain in the previous round.

It appears that Allegri will look to score at Camp Nou tonight, with Gazzetta dello Sport reporting that the 4-2-3-1 will remain, with Gonzalo Higuain supported by Paulo Dybala, Juan Cuadrado and Mario Mandzukic.

It’s expected that Juve will field the same team as the first leg, with Alex Sandro and Dani Alves in the full-back positions, and Sami Khedira anchoring the midfield alongside Miralem Pjanic.

Javier Mascherano is fit for the hosts, and Sky is reporting that they will start with a 3-4-3 formation, with the Argentine in defence, rather than the midfield role he  occupied in Turin.

Close to 4,000 Juventini are expected in the stadium tonight, but Mediaset reports that many more are in Barcelona for the match.

Earlier today, directors from both clubs had lunch at the Caelis restaurant, while the team did a muscular workout at the hotel.

Probable line-ups:

Barcelona: Ter Stegen; Pique, Mascherano, Umtiti; Sergi Roberto, Rakitic, Busquets, Iniesta; Messi, Suarez, Neymar

Juventus: Buffon; Dani Alves, Bonucci, Chiellini, Alex Sandro; Pjanic, Khedira; Cuadrado, Dybala, Mandzukic; Higuain

 

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Cicero    598

 Buffon; Dani Alves, Bonucci, Chiellini, Alex Sandro; Khedira, Pjanic; Cuadrado, Dybala, Mandzukic; Higuain. 

Ter Stegen: Roberto, Pique. Umtiti, Alba; Rakitic, Busquets, Iniesta; Messi, Suárez, Neymar

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Toony    95

Can't see lightning striking twice here, Juve will have a bit more about them defensively and I can't see Barca breaking through 4 times.

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Cannabis    1,326

Barcelona have been so hit and miss that if they do get through tonight I wouldn't put it past them being thumped 4-0 in the semi final. They should have learned from the embarrassment that was the first leg in Paris but they obviously haven't, I want to believe that they can come back again but Juventus are a different kettle of fish. I just don't see how this ends well for the Blaugrana. 

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SirBalon    914
3 minutes ago, Cannabis said:

Barcelona have been so hit and miss that if they do get through tonight I wouldn't put it past them being thumped 4-0 in the semi final. They should have learned from the embarrassment that was the first leg in Paris but they obviously haven't, I want to believe that they can come back again but Juventus are a different kettle of fish. I just don't see how this ends well for the Blaugrana. 

Infact them being in all three competitions even now at this stage during the season is doing them more harm than good because it almost puts make-up on majot errors that were made in the summer transfer window. The one answerable to all of this is Robert Fernández (sporting director) and he is so lucky he is being bypassed in all of this as it's his job to get these things right. Infact Luis Enrique has been taking all the stick and that isn't fair.

Barça need to be knocked out to be honest as Juve have a better chance of winning it. Anything so Real Madrid don't do it because their football has been utter garbage and believe it or not, much worse than Barcelona's. 

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Dalmore    31

I'm gonna have to be with Juventus' side because Italy unites us and I also believe that Juventus has a more stable team this year but Barcelona has the referees so it won't be easy. even Real Madrid went through last night thanks to the linesman, I hope the arbitrage tonight will be fair and Juventus goes through.

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Asura    118

Dont see Barca going through, even if they score three times I fancy Juve to score atleast once. 

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SirBalon    914
1 minute ago, Dalmore said:

I'm gonna have to be with Juventus' side because Italy unites us and I also believe that Juventus has a more stable team this year but Barcelona has the referees so it won't be easy. even Real Madrid went through last night thanks to the linesman, I hope the arbitrage tonight will be fair and Juventus goes through.

I doubt very much many Italians feel the same thing about Juve that you just mentioned mate. Juve is a case apart within Italian football. 

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Dalmore    31
2 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

I doubt very much many Italians feel the same thing about Juve that you just mentioned mate. Juve is a case apart within Italian football. 

still I prefer watching an Italian team lifting the trophy than the two spanish cheaters who go through thanks to the referees.

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Cicero    598
6 minutes ago, Dalmore said:

I'm gonna have to be with Juventus' side because Italy unites us and I also believe that Juventus has a more stable team this year but Barcelona has the referees so it won't be easy. even Real Madrid went through last night thanks to the linesman, I hope the arbitrage tonight will be fair and Juventus goes through.

Everyone hates Juve apart Juve fans

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Mel81x    107
2 minutes ago, Cicero said:

Everyone hates Juve apart Juve fans

The enemy of my enemy is my friend would apply but I am sure a lot of people can't stand Barca after the last set of shennanigans.

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Dalmore    31

 I hate them too bro. I just pick them between Barcelona and Real because the spanish Rivals can only get through thanks to the referees and as for the other spanish team (Atletico) I want hem to fail so that Simeone comes to us :D

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Especially Internazionale fans.

I don't really understand much of patriotism, but supporting a club you don't follow purely because it is from the same country seems ridiculous. I am absolutely delighted when nearly all of the English clubs crash and burn in Europe, which is a happening a lot at the moment.

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Stan    1,368
8 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Especially Internazionale fans.

I don't really understand much of patriotism, but supporting a club you don't follow purely because it is from the same country seems ridiculous. I am absolutely delighted when nearly all of the English clubs crash and burn in Europe, which is a happening a lot at the moment.

is it not equally ridiculous to want them to crash and burn? Seems a bit over the top. Not saying you have to support them or follow them to the hilt. 

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Spike    701
11 minutes ago, Cicero said:

Everyone hates Juve apart Juve fans

I'm neutral towards them. I'm a fan of Italian football and Italy in general. The only bad thing about Italy is the Australians and Americans that think they are Italian because of nonna's a-gnocchi (I think I've ranted about these absolute cunts before).

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Eco    255
10 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Especially Internazionale fans.

I don't really understand much of patriotism, but supporting a club you don't follow purely because it is from the same country seems ridiculous. I am absolutely delighted when nearly all of the English clubs crash and burn in Europe, which is a happening a lot at the moment.

From my limited understanding of how the rankings work though, because Juve keeps going, Serie A is getting another CL sport. That is why you go for teams in the same country.

I hate Juve, but I hate Barca more.

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Spike    701
9 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Especially Internazionale fans.

I don't really understand much of patriotism, but supporting a club you don't follow purely because it is from the same country seems ridiculous. I am absolutely delighted when nearly all of the English clubs crash and burn in Europe, which is a happening a lot at the moment.

Italian football has practically been dead since Calciopoli. To see a revival in terms of quality and interest is only good for Italian football. It's a domino effect, the more attention that Juve brings to Italy the more attention the other teams get by proxy. 

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Dalmore    31
9 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Especially Internazionale fans.

I don't really understand much of patriotism, but supporting a club you don't follow purely because it is from the same country seems ridiculous. I am absolutely delighted when nearly all of the English clubs crash and burn in Europe, which is a happening a lot at the moment.

haha we are having this debate in the greek community of Interistas on facebook. half of us want Juventus to go through because of our Italian sympathy and the other half just can't put aside our hatred.

Ιt would be interesting if we gather all together under the same screen to watch the game and see who celebrates and when :D 

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Eco    255
1 minute ago, Spike said:

I'm neutral towards them. I'm a fan of Italian football and Italy in general. The only bad thing about Italy is the Australians and Americans that think they are Italian because of nonna's a-gnocchi (I think I've ranted about these absolute cunts before).

You'd hate my step-father. He is both a douche and 4th generation Irish, but tells everyone he is Irish and only drinks Guiness beer cause it's the beer of his family.

Fucking drives me insane. They are heading to ireland, and I have warned my Mom not to let him go on about it, cause they don't give a shit.

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Eco    255
Just now, Dalmore said:

haha we are having this debate in the greek community of Interistas on facebook. half of us want Juventus to go through because of our Italian sympathy and the other half just can't put aside our hatred.

Ιt would be interesting if we gather all together under the same screen to watch the game and see who celebrates and when :D 

I have always loved Italian Football. Inter and Palermo (with some love for Foggia), but this league has been down for so long, I'm willing to cheer for Juve to bring some glory back to the league.

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Spike    701
2 minutes ago, ATL said:

You'd hate my step-father. He is both a douche and 4th generation Irish, but tells everyone he is Irish and only drinks Guiness beer cause it's the beer of his family.

Fucking drives me insane. They are heading to ireland, and I have warned my Mom not to let him go on about it, cause they don't give a shit.

Yeah, that'd fucking piss me off. NO YOU AREN'T IRISH YOU ARE AMERICAN. He can't speak Gaelic, he doesn't understand the troubles and Ulster, ad nauseum. I think it's a side effect of Irish segregation; they held onto their 'identity' fiercely despite the fact every year and every generation it became less Irish to the point it was perfectly assimilated into American culture. But they always hold onto that stupid pride.

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Eco    255
Just now, Spike said:

Yeah, that'd fucking piss me off. NO YOU AREN'T IRISH YOU ARE AMERICAN. He can't speak Gaelic, he doesn't understand the troubles and Ulster, ad nauseum. I think it's a side effect of Irish segregation; they held onto their 'identity' fiercely despite the fact every year and every generation it became less Irish to the point it was perfectly assimilated into American culture. But they always hold onto that stupid pride.

I think it's more of an effect that no one's family has been American for 100's of years. English family go back centuries, as do Spanish, Irish, Italian, and so on. We are still relivatively a new country, and that why places my Ancestry.com make so much money here, is because people have this deep desire to know 'who' they are, because I guess being American isn't enough.

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Spike    701
Just now, ATL said:

I think it's more of an effect that no one's family has been American for 100's of years. English family go back centuries, as do Spanish, Irish, Italian, and so on. We are still relivatively a new country, and that why places my Ancestry.com make so much money here, is because people have this deep desire to know 'who' they are, because I guess being American isn't enough.

America is what? 300 years old? Plenty of families have been in the States for a long time. Technically speaking, the USA is one of the oldest nations in the world. You can't forget that Germany has only been around since the 90s. Besides it only take one generation for a culture to develop; think about it, America was already radically different enough by 1776 that it created the constitution. 

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Eco    255

Oh, and I'll one more things for about why I want Juve to win.

Buffon deserves it more than anyone else who doesn't already have a CL title. #DoItForBuffon

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Eco    255
Just now, Spike said:

America is what? 300 years old? Plenty of families have been in the States for a long time. Technically speaking, the USA is one of the oldest nations in the world. You can't forget that Germany has only been around since the 90s. Besides it only take one generation for a culture to develop; think about it, America was already radically different enough by 1776 that it created the constitution. 

We have more immigrants here that families aren't from here for many generations. Mine is, but there are a LOT from other countries and it's their kids and offspring that I think struggle with an identity.

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Eco    255

Why is 'More than a Club' in English? Why not just make it in Spanish or Catalan?

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