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[Honey Honey]

1 hour ago, Cannabis said:

Happened at 09:00 this morning. 

@HoneyNUFC - you safe?

I would have got on at the next stop on that exact time train if it happened 3 months ago.

One guy I worked with was always on that train in the same spot every time and worryingly it was the end carriage, I cannot recall if it was the very first carriage or the very last. This bomb just happened in the last carriage. God I hope there are no casualties.

[Stan]

apparently only 22 people injured. No deaths being reported which is a good thing. Children reported as injured as well

There must be CCTV of the person who has left the bag there so hopefully the absolute backward cunt of a human can be tracked down.

At the risk of sounding insensitive, why are there no other pictures of damage to the carriage i.e. burning of it as eye-witness accounts state there was a fireball travelling down the carriage. Obviously I don't expect them to be whipping their phones out as they run in fear for safety. But in the aftermath there's always some photos or videos. So far all I've seen is that burning bucket? 

[SirBalon]

The London Ambulance say that of all the injured people they've attended to there are none in critical condition or with a life threatening situation. This is good news considering everything. 

[Harry]

 What tube line and what station? 

I have a hard to describe love of the London underground and affiliation with the people who ride it

[Stan]

5 minutes ago, Harry said:

 What tube line and what station? 

I have a hard to describe love of the London underground and affiliation with the people who ride it

District Line.

Parsons Green station

[Fairy In Boots]

How long before Arsenal fans start marking themselves as safe on Facebook?

[SirBalon]

2 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said:

How long before Arsenal fans start marking themselves as safe on Facebook?

Parsons Green is generally a nice area, so there should be quite a number of Gooners living around there. 

[The Artful Dodger]

2 hours ago, Stan said:

apparently only 22 people injured. No deaths being reported which is a good thing. Children reported as injured as well

There must be CCTV of the person who has left the bag there so hopefully the absolute backward cunt of a human can be tracked down.

At the risk of sounding insensitive, why are there no other pictures of damage to the carriage i.e. burning of it as eye-witness accounts state there was a fireball travelling down the carriage. Obviously I don't expect them to be whipping their phones out as they run in fear for safety. But in the aftermath there's always some photos or videos. So far all I've seen is that burning bucket? 

Hardly likely in such a compact environment, only a few people would have seen anything and they would have ran quickly. It's only when people are a safe distance that their gruesome voyerurism comes out.

[Honey Honey]

Apparently the bomb didn't detonate properly, half the explosives were not activated. This could have been a lot more brutal. It's a strange target location, probably based more on the getaway which I image was at one of the earlier stops.

Let's hope they can catch the cunt and any accomplices before they lash out again. There's a high chance whoever is involved will try and take lives again anyway they can before they get caught.

[Danny]

33 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said:

Apparently the bomb didn't detonate properly, half the explosives were not activated. This could have been a lot more brutal. It's a strange target location, probably based more on the getaway which I image was at one of the earlier stops.

Let's hope they can catch the cunt and any accomplices before they lash out again. There's a high chance whoever is involved will try and take lives again anyway they can before they get caught.

That's why I doubted it may have been a terrorist attack at first, there are bigger stops on the District Line nearby such as Ealing Broadway or Richmond, let alone the bigger stops in Central London.

[Honey Honey]

Yeah, unless tfl had delays (including the one's they don't bother telling you about) then a 9am train at Parsons Green would have all seats taken, some people standing, but wouldn't be rammed. 15 minutes earlier and it would be people up against the doors. 

Maybe that is what they wanted to be able to leave a bomb without being noticed.

It makes me wonder if it was actually meant to go off at Parsons Green though. I don't know if it was Wimbledon to Paddington or Wimbledon to the City, but if the latter then it would get busier after Earls Court, pass Victoria and symbolically it goes to Westminster.

 

[Stan]

1 hour ago, HoneyNUFC said:

Yeah, unless tfl had delays (including the one's they don't bother telling you about) then a 9am train at Parsons Green would have all seats taken, some people standing, but wouldn't be rammed. 15 minutes earlier and it would be people up against the doors. 

Maybe that is what they wanted to be able to leave a bomb without being noticed.

It makes me wonder if it was actually meant to go off at Parsons Green though. I don't know if it was Wimbledon to Paddington or Wimbledon to the City, but if the latter then it would get busier after Earls Court, pass Victoria and symbolically it goes to Westminster.

 

This was my thought as well. And if there were undetonated devices as well which is being reported, I wonder if a huge attack has been prevented because of it not going off properly in the first place both in location and effect. 

Parsons Green isn't the first place you'd think of to do a terrorist attack whereas the 3 places you mention would be higher up in hot-spots so to speak. 

[Honey Honey]

35 minutes ago, Cannabis said:

So are we agreed that on the terrorism whopper scale this mad cunt is about a C- ?

C for Cunt

[6666]

Thankfully it sounds like no one was seriously hurt as this seems to be a shitty attempt at a bomb. Surely there's camera footage to see who left it there.

[Honey Honey]

25 minutes ago, 6666 said:

Thankfully it sounds like no one was seriously hurt as this seems to be a shitty attempt at a bomb. Surely there's camera footage to see who left it there.

They know who it is, Donald Trump leaked as much this morning

[Honey Honey]

"The Dover area", in other words trying to get out of the country

[Fairy In Boots]

To be honest I'm not even surprised he's a refugee or known to the authorities. I'm not even surprised he worked in what appears to be a fried chicken halal shit tip, I'm just surprised he shopped at Lidl. 

At some point I'm sure in the back of your mind a thought will bubble up and say "fairy in boots wasn't far wrong" I see it daily lads, label me racist whatever I don't really care anymore I'm proved right with each passing day. I'm telling you in about 100-200 years time we'll have a bloody civil war in which our existence will be at stake. That's not just white Christians ask any Sikh's or practicing Hindus you know. Islam is cancer

[Dr. Gonzo]

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Stoking Islamophobia and secession in Texas -- from an office in Russia

(CNN)On May 21 2016, a handful of people turned out to protest the opening of a library at an Islamic Center in Houston, Texas. Two held up a banner proclaiming #WhiteLivesMatter. A counter-protest began across the street; video shows a noisy but non-violent confrontation. 

The rally -- called "Stop Islamization of Texas" -- was called and promoted by a Facebook page called Heart of Texas, which had wrongly alleged that the Islamic library had received public funding. But the Heart of Texas page listed no contacts in the Lone Star state. In fact, it was operated by a "Troll Factory" called the Internet Research Agency thousands of miles away in St Petersburg Russia, CNN has learned.

One of the people who attended the rally later complained: "Heart of Texas promoted this event but we didn't see ONE of them."

The Houston rally sheds light on an effort originating in Russia to sow discord in the U.S. through social media; in this case it had real impact on the ground

Not only were police on the scene, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Texas, Mustafaa Carroll, told CNN that his organization had contacted the FBI about comments posted on the Heart of Texas page before the protest. One of them read: "Need to blow this place up. We don't need this shit in Texas."

The protest was also discussed by Houston City Council three days after it took place. 

Generating anti-Muslim sentiment in the US was one of the goals of the Russian campaign. CNN reported Tuesday that some ads bought on Facebook were aimed at reaching voters who might be susceptible to anti-Muslim messages, even suggesting that Muslims were a threat to the American way of life.

A source familiar with the matter tells CNN that Heart of Texas was among the 470 accounts and pages that Facebook turned over to Congress, following its investigation into ads generated by the Internet Research Agency. Neither the Facebook page nor a companion Twitter account @ItsTimeToSecede is still accessible. The link between Heart of Texas and the Russian campaign was previously reported by Business Insider.

@ItsTimeToSecede appears to have begun life in November 2015. The last time another user tagged the account was on August 29th of this year, about the same time the Facebook page was suspended. Twitter would not comment on why @ItsTimeToSecede had been taken down.

The Heart of Texas Facebook page had some 249,000 likes shortly before it was suspended. Its posts, some of which have been retrieved by CNN, included diatribes against refugees, conspiracy theories about the death of Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia and Islamophobic sentiment. One post called for 'No More Mosques in America.' 

Another complained: "Since when has this country turned into a liberal cesspool full of all sorts of ethnic and sexual minorities?"

Some of the posts first appeared in an article published last month by journalist Casey Michel, who tracks secessionist movements. 

On October 26, 2016, Heart of Texas raised the issue of voter fraud, warning: "There are many grounds for believing the Liberals are going to usurp power in the White House and push into it Hillary Clinton at any cost."

Voter fraud was a topic of discussion at that time, in part because Donald Trump had raised it on the campaign trail.

The Heart of Texas Facebook page is full of stilted, ungrammatical English. One post declared: "All those in favor of gun control rise your hand." Another: "Texas Police Is the Best," and another, "The Election is RIGGED, the US are BROKEN."

Exclusive: Russian-linked Facebook ads targeted Michigan and Wisconsin

Above all, Heart of Texas hammered one theme last year: secession from the United States. It called for rallies across Texas on November 5th -- three days before the Presidential election - in support of secession. It's unclear how many people answered the call. CNN was unable to find any evidence of rallies in Dallas or Fort Worth; local reports from Lubbock at the time said a planned rally had not taken place. 

It's not just Heart of Texas that embraced secession. The potential secession of Texas and other states has also been a popular subject for RT America, the Russian state-funded television network that's widely available in the US. It featured several long segments about the subject last year. A 6-minute story in June 2016 has received 250,000 views on YouTube. 

RT America also interviewed Daniel Miller, the president of an actual secessionist group, the Texas Nationalist Movement, in November 2016. The group campaigns for Texas' secession. 

Miller told CNN that his group had been contacted on two occasions by an individual claiming to be with Heart of Texas. In October last year, Miller said, his group received a request on its Facebook page that read: "I'm volunteering for the Heart of Texas community and we're trying to organize a statewide #Texit rally before the election begins."

Miller said the Texas Nationalist Movement had turned down an invitation to take part in the rallies. He would not disclose the identity of the individual that had contacted the organization, in keeping with the group's policy on confidentiality, he told CNN

Hmmm.... sounds familiar... almost as if there's some kind of pattern here.

I'm not sure that NATO can wait for leadership to return to the United States before this kind of shite is dealth with.

[Spike]

Well, they are allowed to secede whenever they want as per federal law or whatever. They are the only state to have that in writing, I believe.

[Honey Honey]

Channel4 news did something on these fake news troll factories, I vaguely recall from about a year ago. A lot of them are click bait coming from spotty kids in the Balkans allegedly.

[Inverted]

Don't know much about the US constitution but I'm fairly sure that the Union is indissoluble. Even when the state legislature voted to secede in 1861 and then took part in the civil war, the Supreme Court ruled a few years after the war ended, that Texas had legally never left the union. 

It's all moot anyway since I sincerely doubt more than a tiny percentage actually want to leave the United States. 

[God is Haaland]

Secession, not succession

[Harry]

It's always interesting to keep an eye on things like this. Hidden vested interests on apparently authentic causes, and it being harder to seperate bullshit from truth.... 

The internet is such a cesspool now.... If the everyday world was as polluted as the virtual world you'd by wading through garbage to get to your letterbox and could leave your house without an oxygen mask..

[Dr. Gonzo]

4 hours ago, BartraPique1932 said:

Secession, not succession

Yep - whoopsies

[Dr. Gonzo]

3 hours ago, Harry said:

It's always interesting to keep an eye on things like this. Hidden vested interests on apparently authentic causes, and it being harder to seperate bullshit from truth.... 

The internet is such a cesspool now.... If the everyday world was as polluted as the virtual world you'd by wading through garbage to get to your letterbox and could leave your house without an oxygen mask..

Yes - the most powerful tool for finding information is now also the most powerful tool for misinformation and spreading bullshit.

Weaponised propaganda is a huge issue that needs to be addressed.