Rucksackfranzose Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, UK Grun Weiss said: Let them play a friendly in my part of the UK against Newcastle, Sunderland or Middlesbrough. 32 minutes ago, UK Grun Weiss said: What about from a footballing point of view? Play a professional team (from a top UK league) or play against a third division German or Austrian team? Save a very small amount of money yet prevent your team from playing a meaningful game. Honestly, why should they prefer the English third tier over the better German third tier, or ain't Sunderland League one? Edited February 11, 2019 by Rucksackfranzose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 I call it the KeiBling effect. You have a good season. Every cunt marks the fuck out of you next season after watching all your footage. Eventually they forget then you have another good season. It separates the good from the best. He's been fine this season, nothing special but we aren't exactly Bayern Munich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Fitness. Then when you are fit, play a couple of games against decent teams. (as we do) Simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted February 12, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted February 12, 2019 Give me a reversal of that friendly from a few years ago please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Yes, you should. Super Tommy Trybull is brilliant by the way @UK Grun Weiss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Most clubs in Germany tend to go to the same training camp in Austria/Switzerland year in, year out. The problem is that most English clubs, specifically the Premier League ones, go off to Asia, America, Australia or even these sort of training camps the German clubs tend to use and therefore don’t play many, if any, friendlies here in the UK. I would like to see more European sides play games in the UK in pre-season, just for the chance to watch someone different for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchalkeUK Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 There comes a time when even the greatest players realise that it is just not there anymore. The genuine guys retire or take a backroom role to help the young guys coming along - the self-indulgent ones are fawned over by pathetic managers who ignore any possibility of young talent being able to emerge. Beckham and Linekar left the highest level - not to stop playing, but to be of use to younger up-and-coming talents. Diego at Werder was the perfect example when his time was coming to an end and what he taught Mesut was to turn a good player into a quality international talent. Raul's time at 04 did wonders for Max and Leon and encouragement from Daniel Farke has brought out the ability which we knew at 04 that Timo Pukki had and look what he's doing at Norwich now! To over-use Max Kruse will be a sin, but to let time on the pitch with the younger players be educational as well as contributing to the team can be clever if used properly. I'm not sure 90 minutes at his age is a good idea. The problem is, some older players become totally self-centered, Prince Boateng and Choupo-Moting are perfect examples - blame everyone else - mainly the kids - for their shortcomings and they totally disrupt any team. Poor Management lets them do it - our present example is Bentaleb teaching McKennie that being a Thug (a la TDB Scholes)is better than playing good football - McKennie is now leading in the yellow/red card stakes with his mentor not far behind and the team is suffering from nothing in mid-field. Only a strong leader on the side can sort that out. Your present position in Bremen is promising - ours - well......Patience my green friends is what is needed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted February 12, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted February 12, 2019 54 minutes ago, SchalkeUK said: There comes a time when even the greatest players realise that it is just not there anymore. The genuine guys retire or take a backroom role to help the young guys coming along - the self-indulgent ones are fawned over by pathetic managers who ignore any possibility of young talent being able to emerge. Beckham and Linekar left the highest level - not to stop playing, but to be of use to younger up-and-coming talents. Diego at Werder was the perfect example when his time was coming to an end and what he taught Mesut was to turn a good player into a quality international talent. Raul's time at 04 did wonders for Max and Leon and encouragement from Daniel Farke has brought out the ability which we knew at 04 that Timo Pukki had and look what he's doing at Norwich now! To over-use Max Kruse will be a sin, but to let time on the pitch with the younger players be educational as well as contributing to the team can be clever if used properly. I'm not sure 90 minutes at his age is a good idea. The problem is, some older players become totally self-centered, Prince Boateng and Choupo-Moting are perfect examples - blame everyone else - mainly the kids - for their shortcomings and they totally disrupt any team. Poor Management lets them do it - our present example is Bentaleb teaching McKennie that being a Thug (a la TDB Scholes)is better than playing good football - McKennie is now leading in the yellow/red card stakes with his mentor not far behind and the team is suffering from nothing in mid-field. Only a strong leader on the side can sort that out. Your present position in Bremen is promising - ours - well......Patience my green friends is what is needed! Diego left Werder for Juventus when he was 24... Hardly the age "when his time was coming to an end" is it?... In the end it just comes to the quality of the player and it should be judged on a case by case basis. Like Rehhagel once said, "Es gibt nicht jung und alt, sondern nur gut und schlecht". As for Max Kruse, he had a poor start of the season and his whole Rückrunde was certainly below par; he lost weight and improved significantly during the winter break and that last cup match performance against BVB showed how important he still is when he's in a good form. Same applies to Pizarro and Harnik; or to Torsten Frings or Andi Herzog in the past. To wish more playing time for young players is one thing, to rush them, put pressure on them to perform and to rely on them completely is a different thing altogether. That approach worked well in developing Maxi Eggestein; it also seems to work with Johannes and I'm sure it will also be the case with Sargent - both of whom credit Pizarro with their improvements on and off the pitch by the way so I'd say there's also additional value of those "old" former players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchalkeUK Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Sorry nudge - perhaps I should have said 'his time at Bremen - viz a vie the contract - was coming to an end . He was willing to pass on what he knew and how he played rather than be mentally selfish - sign of not only a good pro, but a respectful fine man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithcore Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I've been thinking a lot about it the last few days and I think it would be best for Werder Bremen to play more friendly matches in Scandinavia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithcore Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 10 hours ago, SchalkeUK said: There comes a time when even the greatest players realise that it is just not there anymore. The genuine guys retire or take a backroom role to help the young guys coming along - the self-indulgent ones are fawned over by pathetic managers who ignore any possibility of young talent being able to emerge. Beckham and Linekar left the highest level - not to stop playing, but to be of use to younger up-and-coming talents. Diego at Werder was the perfect example when his time was coming to an end and what he taught Mesut was to turn a good player into a quality international talent. Raul's time at 04 did wonders for Max and Leon and encouragement from Daniel Farke has brought out the ability which we knew at 04 that Timo Pukki had and look what he's doing at Norwich now! To over-use Max Kruse will be a sin, but to let time on the pitch with the younger players be educational as well as contributing to the team can be clever if used properly. I'm not sure 90 minutes at his age is a good idea. The problem is, some older players become totally self-centered, Prince Boateng and Choupo-Moting are perfect examples - blame everyone else - mainly the kids - for their shortcomings and they totally disrupt any team. Poor Management lets them do it - our present example is Bentaleb teaching McKennie that being a Thug (a la TDB Scholes)is better than playing good football - McKennie is now leading in the yellow/red card stakes with his mentor not far behind and the team is suffering from nothing in mid-field. Only a strong leader on the side can sort that out. Your present position in Bremen is promising - ours - well......Patience my green friends is what is needed! @Stan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted February 12, 2019 Administrator Share Posted February 12, 2019 @Faithcore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithcore Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, Stan said: @Faithcore Sir, how can I help you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted February 12, 2019 Administrator Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Faithcore said: Sir, how can I help you? I should ask you the same question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithcore Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stan said: I should ask you the same question. @nudge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted February 12, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Faithcore said: I've been thinking a lot about it the last few days and I think it would be best for Werder Bremen to play more friendly matches in Scandinavia. They would be welcome to come train in Vancouver. We can offer a mediocre stadium retrofitted for football with an excellent turf pitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted February 12, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted February 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Viva la FCB said: They would be welcome to come train in Vancouver. We can offer a mediocre stadium retrofitted for football with an excellent turf pitch The question is, are you willing to throw craft beer and steak sandwiches into equation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted February 12, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted February 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, nudge said: The question is, are you willing to throw craft beer and steak sandwiches into equation? We do have some top notch breweries and foods, bargaining chip? absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Vancouver is a great option. A team can expand into the Chinese market without actually going there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Spike said: Vancouver is a great option. A team can expand into the Chinese market without actually going there. Sydney too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relling Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) In general I like it when the big clubs play friendlies against lower tier clubs in their own country. It gives a little back to the larger footballing community, and shows some solidarity with the amateur game. I dislike friendlies like Bayern vs Real Madrid etc.. Edited February 13, 2019 by Relling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 8 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Sydney too. Touble tap with India as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Grun Weiss Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 I refer you to the title of the post. Please stick to the question rather than attacking me for challenging the "great" Max Kruse. At what point should Kruse be dropped from the starring 11?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Grun Weiss Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Thank god for Pizzaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithcore Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Kruse was an important part of the interruption during injury time and influenced the referee to whistle the free kick shortly afterwards. He also talked to Pizarro right before the freekick and probably gave him a hint how to take it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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