Bluebird Hewitt Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 I don't really know what to say. https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/17/doncaster-woman-paragliders-hamas-israel-palestine-19674545/?ico=mosaic_home 4 Quote
nudge Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bluebird Hewitt said: I don't really know what to say. https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/17/doncaster-woman-paragliders-hamas-israel-palestine-19674545/?ico=mosaic_home Thanks, this made me laugh Quote
6666 Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 Israel continuing their genocidal plan with devastating affect. Bombing hospitals and killing kids as usual. Wasn't treated as a big deal in previous occasions that Israel bombed Palestine and won't be treated as a big deal now. Israeli government and the Israeli military are without out 100x worse than Hamas but criticism in the mainstream media stays near silent. Just a shame that the Arab countries with power are too in bed with the US to actually exist as some sort of repellent for Israel who just do what they want with Palestine. Quote
Dr. Gonzo Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, 6666 said: Israel continuing their genocidal plan with devastating affect. Bombing hospitals and killing kids as usual. Wasn't treated as a big deal in previous occasions that Israel bombed Palestine and won't be treated as a big deal now. Israeli government and the Israeli military are without out 100x worse than Hamas but criticism in the mainstream media stays near silent. Just a shame that the Arab countries with power are too in bed with the US to actually exist as some sort of repellent for Israel who just do what they want with Palestine. The hospital that got bombed today appears to be from a failed Hamas rocket though. Not that it excuses some of the other things the IDF has done in their bombing campaign on Gaza. I think the strikes on the south of Gaza, after telling people to evacuate there, are particularly condemnable. But that hospital rocket footage and the clips of the aftermath (500 people died) also demonstrate how Hamas don't particularly give a shit about Gaza's most vulnerable and are keen to continue fighting without regard for how many innocents (Israeli or Palestinian) die. But I do question what Israel's real strategy is here other than vengeance. It's not like this slow systematic crushing of Gaza is going to lead to anything other than more land taken from Palestinian control. The longer this goes on, the more likely it is that Gazans don't even have Gaza City anymore - they'll just be forced onto camps. I'm not sure you can blame the neighboring Arab countries for not wanting anything to do with Palestinian refugees. Hamas has close ties with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt - Egypt's government doesn't exactly like them lol. And with Jordan, the last time they took in Palestinian refugees their king was assassinated and Palestinians tried to overthrow their government. Quote
Azeem Posted October 17, 2023 Author Posted October 17, 2023 Once Israel annexes all of Palestine it will go for low population density areas like Sinai and parts of Lebanon next. It will use the 'we have terrorist threat' from these places as an excuse to launch military operations like Russia. Greater Israel is a not conspiracy. Quote
Rucksackfranzose Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Beelzebub said: Once Israel annexes all of Palestine it will go for low population density areas like Sinai and parts of Lebanon next. It will use the 'we have terrorist threat' from these places as an excuse to launch military operations like Russia. Greater Israel is a not conspiracy. This statement ignores diligently that Israel only annexed territories from other nations after said nations attacked Israel initially and lost the following war til now. Something many Muslims tend to "forget" to mention when talking about Israel's annexion. Edited October 17, 2023 by Rucksackfranzose Quote
...Dan Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said: The hospital that got bombed today appears to be from a failed Hamas rocket though. Appears to be? What is your source for this? Was the air strike on the school also a failed Hamas rocket? Quote
Dr. Gonzo Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, ...Dan said: Appears to be? What is your source for this? Was the air strike on the school also a failed Hamas rocket? Watch 19:59 to 20:01 No, I think the air strike on the school was the IDF. Also the bombing of south Gaza (where they've told people to evacuate to) also appears to be IDF bombings. Quote
6666 Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said: The hospital that got bombed today appears to be from a failed Hamas rocket though. That's the IDF's angle. Which makes it completely untrustworthy as they're an extremely unreliable source of info. Especially on their own war crimes. Quote
Dr. Gonzo Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 1 minute ago, 6666 said: That's the IDF's angle. Which makes it completely untrustworthy as they're an extremely unreliable source of info. Especially on their own war crimes. It's also being reported on Al Jazeera. And that's Qatari state media, and Qatar's one of the 2 countries holding the purse strings for Hamas. Quote
...Dan Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Watch 19:59 to 20:01 No, I think the air strike on the school was the IDF. Also the bombing of south Gaza (where they've told people to evacuate to) also appears to be IDF bombings. What do you see on this webcam that proves that it's a failed Hamas rocket launch? Quote
Dr. Gonzo Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 Just now, ...Dan said: What do you see on this webcam that proves that it's a failed Hamas rocket launch? A rocket coming from the Gaza side of the border failing and crashing down? Israel's committing enough war crimes on it's own to where if even Al Jazeera, which is not exactly unbiased in the conflict, is agreeing that this hospital was struck by a failed rocket... it probably was the case. Hamas rockets failing and killing Palestinians isn't really anything new. It's not exactly state of the art rocket technology they're using. It's not like Hamas killing more Palestinians somehow absolves Israel of bombing a school or bombing areas they've told people to evacuate to. Those are pretty clearly war crimes, I don't think we need to have more fabricated to make the case that the IDF's committing war crimes. Hamas is also very clearly capable of killing Palestinians as well. 1 Quote
Reluctant Striker Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 It does seem odd seeing Joe Biden & friends batting for the other side. Quote
Dr. Gonzo Posted October 17, 2023 Posted October 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, Reluctant Striker said: It does seem odd seeing Joe Biden & friends batting for the other side. You think it's surprising seeing the US and other big western countries take Israel's side? The US gives them $6B a year to spend on US weapons, there was never any doubt that Biden wouldn't be at bat for Israel. Quote
Harry Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 7 hours ago, ...Dan said: What do you see on this webcam that proves that it's a failed Hamas rocket launch? Decent tweet thread explaining evidence for this explanation Quote
Harry Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 There's also this being decent logic too imo. https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390274900734049?t=-5D4a_fzg1cpnOW2NG8C2A&s=19 Quote
Azeem Posted October 18, 2023 Author Posted October 18, 2023 9 hours ago, Rucksackfranzose said: This statement ignores diligently that Israel only annexed territories from other nations after said nations attacked Israel initially and lost the following war til now. Something many Muslims tend to "forget" to mention when talking about Israel's annexion. – The wars started because of illegal enroachment on Palestinians territories – Israel has annexed more territories like Golan Heights from Syria since then without provocation. Quote
Azeem Posted October 18, 2023 Author Posted October 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, Harry said: There's also this being decent logic too imo. What global outrage ? useless protests don't mean anything to them. Quote
Administrator Stan Posted October 18, 2023 Administrator Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Harry said: There's also this being decent logic too imo. https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390274900734049?t=-5D4a_fzg1cpnOW2NG8C2A&s=19 Because they know they can get away with it? It's a clear genocide tactic they've employed before. Quote
Azeem Posted October 18, 2023 Author Posted October 18, 2023 There is still the mainstream narrative that bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was somewhat necessary that Japan brought it on itself. If you can sell that everything else pales in comparison. Quote
MUFC Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 Even these cunts are using the word genocide. Quote
Rucksackfranzose Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Beelzebub said: – The wars started because of illegal enroachment on Palestinians territories – Israel has annexed more territories like Golan Heights from Syria since then without provocation. Ahemm the Golan Heights were annected after the 6 days war, that's far from without provocation. Edited October 18, 2023 by Rucksackfranzose Quote
MUFC Posted October 18, 2023 Posted October 18, 2023 You need the gadgets for recovery. Very important if you're using them 3 times per week. It will get your bones up to strength and improve posture and movement. Quote
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