Mpache Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Please only look at game libraries. Nothing like "this console can play DVD's". Power for me doesn't make the console (for the most part) For me, the PS1. Take the PS4 and sacrifice the graphics but have games of all varieties and not just shooters or sports games. Have shooters, sports games, platformers, JRPG's, racing games, cartoony and realistic games. I also like the SNES, but it's more dated compared to the PS1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted January 13, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted January 13, 2020 This is a tough argument for a lot of reasons. I don't necessarily think that its just about the libraries themselves but more about what the consoles did for their generations. The PS1 is certainly up there as the one that redefined the space with so many great titles and more importantly, it added a new competitor to a market-space that was predominantly Nintendo's for a long time. That said there were other's like the Master System (SEGA) and the one I always look back as the one that defined its own little market-space, the GameBoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Mel81x said: This is a tough argument for a lot of reasons. I don't necessarily think that its just about the libraries themselves but more about what the consoles did for their generations. The PS1 is certainly up there as the one that redefined the space with so many great titles and more importantly, it added a new competitor to a market-space that was predominantly Nintendo's for a long time. That said there were other's like the Master System (SEGA) and the one I always look back at the one that defined its own little market-space, the GameBoy. The Master System only succeeded in the PAL regions though. The Genesis/MegaDrive was more influential. What the Gameboy did was impressive. Despite having no light, nor colour and it's competitors did and still kicked their asses says a lot about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted January 13, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Vader said: The Master System only succeeded in the PAL regions though. The Genesis/MegaDrive was more influential. What the Gameboy did was impressive. Despite having no light, nor colour and it's competitors did and still kicked their asses says a lot about it. Sorry I meant the MegaDrive/Genesis (their first 16-bit console). Although the Master System was the precursor to what SEGA was going to do to keep Nintendo on its heels. They broke so many gaming norms as a result such as. R rated games and the ESRB label which we've come to see on most games They brought the aggressive marketing concept to gaming especially with Sonic's release They created a space which was then capitalized on by Sony and later M$ for product placements, marketing and engagement of a much wider series of gamers as well because now more dev shops came on board and started creating games with the chances of a much higher ROI. What is odd is that they just went into obscurity post with the Saturn and I think Sony had more to do with that than Nintendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mel81x said: Sorry I meant the MegaDrive/Genesis (their first 16-bit console). Although the Master System was the precursor to what SEGA was going to do to keep Nintendo on its heels. They broke so many gaming norms as a result such as. R rated games and the ESRB label which we've come to see on most games They brought the aggressive marketing concept to gaming especially with Sonic's release They created a space which was then capitalized on by Sony and later M$ for product placements, marketing and engagement of a much wider series of gamers as well because now more dev shops came on board and started creating games with the chances of a much higher ROI. What is odd is that they just went into obscurity post with the Saturn and I think Sony had more to do with that than Nintendo. The Saturn was awful. It was a machine hard to work with and it put many third party developers off. This forced them to create the first 128 bit system (I think) in the Dreamcast which allowed Sony to see through a way to win the console wars. The power of the PS2 put the nail in the coffin for Sega. Their biggest issue was their stubborness. Sega of Japan had too much faith in the Saturn, and that killed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted January 13, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vader said: The Saturn was awful. It was a machine hard to work with and it put many third party developers off. This forced them to create the first 128 bit system (I think) in the Dreamcast which allowed Sony to see through a way to win the console wars. The power of the PS2 put the nail in the coffin for Sega. Their biggest issue was their stubborness. Sega of Japan had too much faith in the Saturn, and that killed them. It also laid the foundation for something which both M$ and Sony have based so much on with their 3rd party devs. The ability to create good ports of games and use that to continue the revenue stream. At the end of the day its a business and if you can't bring your games over easily it was always going to fail. I don't know if this documentary is still on YouTube but if it is you should go see how ID software made Doom and the challenges they had to go through there. Tack on a closed system like what most consoles used to offer and I can imagine a lot of devs getting upset very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Blue Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Torn between PS1 and PS2 as both had amazing games, which compared to the new generation games don't focus on graphics but amazing story line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 PS3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted January 13, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted January 13, 2020 SNES. A lot of technological innovations at the time + a huge library of amazing games that survived the test of time and are mostly still very enjoyable today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Pyfish+ Posted January 13, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted January 13, 2020 I'd go for Playstation and PS2. Nod to the Gameboy too. Solely because they dominated my childhood and I'd be a lot more hooked than I am nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teso dos Bichos Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Super Nintendo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Hewitt Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 For me, I tend to look at memories and the fun factor. While pretty all the games are dated and the library was small due to the insistence of cartridges, I loved my N64. The likes of Mario 64, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Lylat Wars/Star Fox 64, Banjo Kazooie, WWF No Mercy and Conker's Bad Fur Day were superb at the time, with Rare on fine form indeed. Also gave us the analogue stick that eventually developed part of what we have on pads today. Plus Conker's Bad Fur Day had an opera singing shit for a boss, so that always helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, nudge said: SNES. A lot of technological innovations at the time + a huge library of amazing games that survived the test of time and are mostly still very enjoyable today. I used to have one of these.. still do, but it's up in the loft somewhere now... used to go out and rent the game, transfer it to disc and I had over 150+ games for it.. the only ones they couldn't copy were those ones with the special chips in.. Used to spend hours on the bloody thing.. The cartridge slotted in the top and then you put the disc in the side and away you went.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted January 13, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bluewolf said: I used to have one of these.. still do, but it's up in the loft somewhere now... used to go out and rent the game, transfer it to disc and I had over 150+ games for it.. the only ones they couldn't copy were those ones with the special chips in.. Used to spend hours on the bloody thing.. The cartridge slotted in the top and then you put the disc in the side and away you went.. This reminds me of cheap NES clones we used to get as there were no original NES in the country at that time for quite a while. The clones were made in China or Taiwan and they were just cheap knockoffs so there were quite a few variations of the "brand name" and then you had a whole bootleg market of pirated cartridges (many of those were collections of games aka "100 in 1" and similar) as there were pretty much no intellectual property laws back then Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panflute Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 In terms of pure exclusives, N64. Gamecube was great too and had a lot of hidden gems. I mostly got Xbox to play multiplatform games but I have PC for most of those. I will dock points off for the N64's horrid controller, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 PS3 just for the free online multiplayer N64 did have loads of Nostalgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, nudge said: This reminds me of cheap NES clones we used to get as there were no original NES in the country at that time for quite a while. The clones were made in China or Taiwan and they were just cheap knockoffs so there were quite a few variations of the "brand name" and then you had a whole bootleg market of pirated cartridges (many of those were collections of games aka "100 in 1" and similar) as there were pretty much no intellectual property laws back then Good times. Didn't this idea develop into Action 52? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ Posted January 13, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Vader said: Didn't this idea develop into Action 52? Yeah pretty much the same thing, only Action 52 at least had the consent of the copyright owners whereas the multicarts I'm talking about were dodgy straight out pirated copies haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 hours ago, nudge said: SNES. A lot of technological innovations at the time + a huge library of amazing games that survived the test of time and are mostly still very enjoyable today. SNES or N64 for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I played nothing as much as I played XBox. I used to wear out Fifa, Dynasty Warriors, NCAA Football, NCAA Basketball...etc... It'll always have a special place in my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpache Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, nudge said: Yeah pretty much the same thing, only Action 52 at least had the consent of the copyright owners whereas the multicarts I'm talking about were dodgy straight out pirated copies haha. Action 52 was never licensed by Nintendo, so that was a no-go from the start. Although that doesn't exactly mean "illegal" like the copies you are talking about. I saw a documentary about it on Youtube about how the idea started and it was those illegal copies in Taiwan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 The cheetah men god that was shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted January 14, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted January 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Bluebird Hewitt said: For me, I tend to look at memories and the fun factor. While pretty all the games are dated and the library was small due to the insistence of cartridges, I loved my N64. The likes of Mario 64, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Lylat Wars/Star Fox 64, Banjo Kazooie, WWF No Mercy and Conker's Bad Fur Day were superb at the time, with Rare on fine form indeed. Also gave us the analogue stick that eventually developed part of what we have on pads today. Plus Conker's Bad Fur Day had an opera singing shit for a boss, so that always helps. This console also gave us one of the most defining games of the video game era in LoZ - Ocarina of Time. It was doing things for the time that totally reshaped how Nintendo was going to position a lot of its franchise characters. Rare were superb during that period as well. I can't count the number of hours I spent with friends playing Goldeneye and laughing at what we'd try to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASF Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 PS and the PS2. The SNES also holds a special place for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Playstation 2. I never had the N64 as a kid, so I missed out on the nostalgia. I did love my megadrive growing up, which is why I now own another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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