Honey Honey Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Would expect those who qualify for free prescriptions would get to have one through their GP. Surprised if not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted April 27, 2020 Administrator Share Posted April 27, 2020 £60k payout to families who have relatives dying if they worked on the front-line. No amount of money of course would satisfy anyone who's loved one dies while working, especially in these times with lack of being able to funerals/pay respects etc, but it's a massive slap in the face regardless. NHS staff have been pining for a pay-rise for however fucking long but suddenly there's enough money to pay out to families in the worst situations. How about giving them the equipment (using the infamous magic money tree that now conveniently exists) to help prevent the death as best as possible and the consequent pay-out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 So where I'm living... we've got statewide "stay at home orders" that were enforced if people were going to parks and beaches. Then my county decided to lift the ban on going to beaches, against the advice of the state's governor. Now the beaches are absolutely fucking packed. I'm staying at home because... we're still meant to. But seeing images of beaches by me absolutely packed with people just makes me think... this quarantine's not ending here anytime soon. Fucking morons. Selfish fucking twats, in all honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Greggs to open again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Hewitt Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MUFC said: Greggs to open again. Apparently in Newcastle as a trial to start and more to follow afterwards. Something you want to tell us @Harvsky? Edited April 27, 2020 by Bluebird Hewitt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, Bluebird Hewitt said: Apparently in Newcastle as a trial to start and more to follow afterwards. Something you want to tell us @Harvsky? It originated in Newcastle. Disappointed they don't own NUFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MUFC Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52439934 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harry Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 14 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: So where I'm living... we've got statewide "stay at home orders" that were enforced if people were going to parks and beaches. Then my county decided to lift the ban on going to beaches, against the advice of the state's governor. Now the beaches are absolutely fucking packed. I'm staying at home because... we're still meant to. But seeing images of beaches by me absolutely packed with people just makes me think... this quarantine's not ending here anytime soon. Fucking morons. Selfish fucking twats, in all honesty. It's a tricky situation to navigate. If a vaccine is 18 months away and not even a sure thing that one can be found, and there is a fear of a second wave in winter, then I could imagine a government wanting to manage a gradual semi controlled herd immunity through the warmer months when people's immune systems are at their highest, and flu is low that will then provide more resistance to an intensive winter spread. I doubt your county acting alone would be thinking through that process though? In Australia and other places we may have a shot at eliminating the virus in which case you might go harder on the lockdowns at the front end but the whole process is seeming to be a marathon not a sprint and realistically I don't think you can maintain the current arrangements for 18 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Harry said: It's a tricky situation to navigate. If a vaccine is 18 months away and not even a sure thing that one can be found, and there is a fear of a second wave in winter, then I could imagine a government wanting to manage a gradual semi controlled herd immunity through the warmer months when people's immune systems are at their highest, and flu is low that will then provide more resistance to an intensive winter spread. I doubt your county acting alone would be thinking through that process though? In Australia and other places we may have a shot at eliminating the virus in which case you might go harder on the lockdowns at the front end but the whole process is seeming to be a marathon not a sprint and realistically I don't think you can maintain the current arrangements for 18 months. There’s no way this can last for 18 months, but I still think reopening beaches this early will extend the lockdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted April 28, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 28, 2020 "I'm here to protest the Virus." Jesus Christ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Administrator Stan Posted April 28, 2020 Administrator Share Posted April 28, 2020 What do we make of the Panorama investigation then, about government not stockpiling properly and millions of missing protective equipment items? 33m respirator masks on original 2009 list but only 12m handed out since then. Government is refusing to comment on the missing millions of masks... Also, on March 13th the government looked to remove COVID-19 from the list of HCIDs despite it only being made one in January... (this really doesn't sit right with me considering by March the outbreak was fully global). Experts that put it on the list in January were not consulted with when discussion took place to remove it. Instead the government asked another committee (Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens) under 'any other business' part of the agenda. You'd think it would be quite high, not just dashed under AOB?! The spokesperson for the committee said part of the reason why it was removed was because 'HCID classification is used for serious infections where there are limited number of cases requiring specialist input and facilities'. What was COVID-19 then? Limited number of cases despite the numbers China and Italy were seeing at that time?? Government also ignored a warning from own advisors to buy missing equipment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisExcubitor Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I wish our cops could shoot people who attacked them and the doctors. In any other country the authorities would be allowed to do that. All the gains made from the lockdown are being flushed down the drain. All I see are crowded markets with people celebrating their festival, and then attacking cops who try to stop them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, IgnisExcubitor said: I wish our cops could shoot people who attacked them and the doctors. In any other country the authorities would be allowed to do that. Eh.... maybe China or Iran, but I don't think most countries would allow indiscriminate firing into a crowd without repercussions. People attacking healthcare workers though are absolute fucking scum and we're seeing cases of this happen all around the world. COVID's not been great for humanity, but it's been really good at identifying which people are absolute scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Stan said: What do we make of the Panorama investigation then, about government not stockpiling properly and millions of missing protective equipment items? 33m respirator masks on original 2009 list but only 12m handed out since then. Government is refusing to comment on the missing millions of masks... Also, on March 13th the government looked to remove COVID-19 from the list of HCIDs despite it only being made one in January... (this really doesn't sit right with me considering by March the outbreak was fully global). Experts that put it on the list in January were not consulted with when discussion took place to remove it. Instead the government asked another committee (Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens) under 'any other business' part of the agenda. You'd think it would be quite high, not just dashed under AOB?! The spokesperson for the committee said part of the reason why it was removed was because 'HCID classification is used for serious infections where there are limited number of cases requiring specialist input and facilities'. What was COVID-19 then? Limited number of cases despite the numbers China and Italy were seeing at that time?? Government also ignored a warning from own advisors to buy missing equipment It's shameful. Counting individual gloves instead of pairs too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisExcubitor Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Eh.... maybe China or Iran, but I don't think most countries would allow indiscriminate firing into a crowd without repercussions. People attacking healthcare workers though are absolute fucking scum and we're seeing cases of this happen all around the world. COVID's not been great for humanity, but it's been really good at identifying which people are absolute scum. Not indiscriminate firing, just using bullets for self defence ONLY against scum who are trying to kill them. I am tired of seeing cops with broken heads, bleeding profusely. People throwing massive blouders on them. Arseholes actually trying to kill them. And it's not one or two cases. Forget China and Iran, even in first world countries like USA and Aus, cops would shoot down people trying to kill them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, IgnisExcubitor said: Not indiscriminate firing, just using bullets for self defence ONLY against scum who are trying to kill them. I am tired of seeing cops with broken heads, bleeding profusely. People throwing massive blouders on them. Arseholes actually trying to kill them. And it's not one or two cases. Forget China and Iran, even in first world countries like USA and Aus, cops would shoot down people trying to kill them. Cops in America are very quick to open fire when they aren’t even in direct threat. I think it’s commendable that Indian police show restraint in the face of dealing with absolute scum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Stan said: What do we make of the Panorama investigation then, about government not stockpiling properly and millions of missing protective equipment items? 33m respirator masks on original 2009 list but only 12m handed out since then. Government is refusing to comment on the missing millions of masks... Also, on March 13th the government looked to remove COVID-19 from the list of HCIDs despite it only being made one in January... (this really doesn't sit right with me considering by March the outbreak was fully global). Experts that put it on the list in January were not consulted with when discussion took place to remove it. Instead the government asked another committee (Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens) under 'any other business' part of the agenda. You'd think it would be quite high, not just dashed under AOB?! The spokesperson for the committee said part of the reason why it was removed was because 'HCID classification is used for serious infections where there are limited number of cases requiring specialist input and facilities'. What was COVID-19 then? Limited number of cases despite the numbers China and Italy were seeing at that time?? Government also ignored a warning from own advisors to buy missing equipment That’s particularly disturbing to me. I’m not sure any reason given would be legitimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 6 hours ago, LFCMike said: 5 hours ago, Stan said: What do we make of the Panorama investigation then, about government not stockpiling properly and millions of missing protective equipment items? 33m respirator masks on original 2009 list but only 12m handed out since then. Government is refusing to comment on the missing millions of masks... Also, on March 13th the government looked to remove COVID-19 from the list of HCIDs despite it only being made one in January... (this really doesn't sit right with me considering by March the outbreak was fully global). Experts that put it on the list in January were not consulted with when discussion took place to remove it. Instead the government asked another committee (Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens) under 'any other business' part of the agenda. You'd think it would be quite high, not just dashed under AOB?! The spokesperson for the committee said part of the reason why it was removed was because 'HCID classification is used for serious infections where there are limited number of cases requiring specialist input and facilities'. What was COVID-19 then? Limited number of cases despite the numbers China and Italy were seeing at that time?? Government also ignored a warning from own advisors to buy missing equipment Anybody who thought our Government would be prepared to handle any crisis is just deluding themselves.... The NHS along with a great many other vital services have been badly underfunded and badly run for a long time and putting down things like single gloves just to falsify and bring the numbers up shows how far some are prepared to go for the sake of damage limitation... Sadly when all this finally blows over and we have yet another lengthy inquest into what went wrong we will be told that despite knowing well in advance about the requirements for such a situation that they have basically been left to chance... No fucker will be held accountable and "lessons will need to be learned" once more... So many failures and so many lives put at risk it's hard to fathom if these people are even capable of getting the simple things right let alone being allowed to run an entire country... But then I suppose you don't have to be too worried when you can get the very best priority care as a Prime Minister or special treatment for your daughter like Gove did ahead of the more urgent frontline staff... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Get a load of these morons: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 The UK is 57th in the world for tests per capita. Not good enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Is he talking the piss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I see this woman is hoarding shed loads of PPE and even went into debt to buy it all and is refusing to share some with the NHS stating "It's not my job to support the NHS it's the Governments" and although she has a point I do take great exception to her using it for her 'ART' How can you call this art???? don't take the piss, My 5 year old Granddaughter does better work than this... https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/29/woman-stockpiled-2500-ppe-refuses-give-nhs-wants-face-masks-art-exhibit-12625359/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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