The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I don't see how Messi gets out on a free if the details are right. I doubt that the contract says 'end of the season', it will surely have a date? Now you could argue that date should have been moved given how the season has panned out but I doubt it will stand in a court of law, just like loads of players could leave at the end of June, that was the end and the clubs couldn't just say 'you're staying till the 'end of the season'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 The date was 31 May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,901 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Azeem said: The date was 31 May The agreement was for the end of the current season, that's the basis we will work from plus the covid effect on the down time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Profesor 1,457 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Regarding Messi's opt-out clause, if I were his lawyer what I'd argue is that the date of May 31st shouldn't be interpreted as May 31st itself, but instead as the last day of the month when the season ends. That's the true spirit of the contract. Therefore, since this season ended in August, Messi would have until August 31st to exercise this clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,901 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, El Profesor said: Regarding Messi's opt-out clause, if I were his lawyer what I'd argue is that the date of May 31st shouldn't be interpreted as May 31st itself, but instead as the last day of the month when the season ends. That's the true spirit of the contract. Therefore, since this season ended in August, Messi would have until August 31st to exercise this clause. That's what we are working with ..we haven't lost a court battle yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard 2,534 Posted August 27, 2020 Administrator Share Posted August 27, 2020 Contract law is fairly unequivocal with fixed date clauses; If the contract states date parameters that is binding. Regardless of Coronavirus, which at best would be considered a force majeure which I have little doubt would also be accounted for rendering it dismissible as a reason to ignore the contractual dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,901 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 20 minutes ago, Batard said: Contract law is fairly unequivocal with fixed date clauses; If the contract states date parameters that is binding. Regardless of Coronavirus, which at best would be considered a force majeure which I have little doubt would also be accounted for rendering it dismissible as a reason to ignore the contractual dates. What bearing on the case would 30million cash dropped on the table have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard 2,534 Posted August 27, 2020 Administrator Share Posted August 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: What bearing on the case would 30million cash dropped on the table have? May as well add the other 670m to the cash. If the contract has a date, the date holds power. The only other way out of it would be for Messi to argue Barcelona acted in such a way to constitute a breach of contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,901 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Batard said: May as well add the other 670m to the cash. If the contract has a date, the date holds power. The only other way out of it would be for Messi to argue Barcelona acted in such a way to constitute a breach of contract. Id rather wait till next summer and get him free tbh if that's the fee ..he could well play till he's 38 so no rush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Batard 2,534 Posted August 27, 2020 Administrator Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Happy Blue said: Id rather wait till next summer and get him free tbh if that's the fee ..he could well play till he's 38 so no rush! 700m release clause bit steep for you guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Batard said: 700m release clause bit steep for you guys? Not at all. All they need to do is leave a financial trail that's long enough for 5 years to get past the statute of limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,901 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Batard said: 700m release clause bit steep for you guys? Isn't it for any club for a guy with 12mths left on his contract ..100m max and no players or wait and get him free would be my approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,619 Posted August 27, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 27, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted August 27, 2020 Author Administrator Share Posted August 27, 2020 I don't believe Koeman said that for a second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,080 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, Stan said: I don't believe Koeman said that for a second Its about time someone said it tbf. No player should rule a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Why not? I'd rather Messi ruled my club than Koeman or some wanker in a suit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 11 hours ago, LFCMadLad said: Its about time someone said it tbf. No player should rule a club. Shut the fuck up or he'll throw a can of Pepsi at you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,901 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 They are now saying the clause allows him to leave within 10 days of the champions league final, that's what was agreed ..looks like we getting Messi on a free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,360 Posted August 28, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted August 28, 2020 I wish he would hurry up and leave Barca or stay. What Pep Guardiola told Lionel Messi about Man City transfer during a phone conversation. (Metro) Manchester City would be willing to use Spanish defenders Eric Garcia, 19, and Angelino, 23, as makeweights in a deal for Messi, if they cannot sign him on a free transfer. (Manchester Evening News) Manchester City are prepared to offer Barcelona £89.5m plus Garcia, Portugal midfielder Bernardo Silva, 26, and Brazil forward Gabriel Jesus, 23, for Messi. (Sport - in Spanish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,901 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, CaaC (John) said: I wish he would hurry up and leave Barca or stay. What Pep Guardiola told Lionel Messi about Man City transfer during a phone conversation. (Metro) Manchester City would be willing to use Spanish defenders Eric Garcia, 19, and Angelino, 23, as makeweights in a deal for Messi, if they cannot sign him on a free transfer. (Manchester Evening News) Manchester City are prepared to offer Barcelona £89.5m plus Garcia, Portugal midfielder Bernardo Silva, 26, and Brazil forward Gabriel Jesus, 23, for Messi. (Sport - in Spanish) You crackers if you think we would part with Bernardo or Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ 5,360 Posted August 28, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted August 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: You crackers if you think we would part with Bernardo or Jesus You mean the Spanish media are crackers I presume (Sport - in Spanish) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, Happy Blue said: You crackers if you think we would part with Bernardo or Jesus Jesus has been underwhelming hasn't he? Thought you'd be glad of him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,901 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, The Artful Dodger said: Jesus has been underwhelming hasn't he? Thought you'd be glad of him out. No he hasn't and the young boy is the future of the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,901 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, CaaC (John) said: You mean the Spanish media are crackers I presume (Sport - in Spanish) Surprised they not saying sterling + De Bruyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted August 28, 2020 Author Administrator Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Happy Blue said: No he hasn't and the young boy is the future of the team That's worrying for you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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