internationalsfan Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, montybhopa said: But why they had it in consecutive years? In 2016 to mark the centenary. In 2020 to get in sync with the Euros, a decision which should have been taken before 2019 to be fair..
Eco Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, montybhopa said: Why do they want to play it with Euros? My guess would be to align with the players and their club teams. If players are being released for the Euros, then they will also be released for the Copa America, and thus have the best talent available. Just my idea though
montybhopa Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, internationalsfan said: And this would have been 2020 if not for pandemic to get it back to four yearly and play it with Euros. The extra one in 2016 was a centenary event 4 tournaments in 5 years. Looks like a recipe to make Messi win at least one @El Profesor
Eco Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, montybhopa said: It was supposed to be held in 2020 but it changed bc of COVID pretty much like Euros. But again, it's not consecutive years. I understand that was the original plan, but you can stop going on about this consecutive year nonsense when it was only done once that I know of.
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted July 11, 2021 Subscriber Posted July 11, 2021 Did that camera man just get into the picture with the Argentina team for a team photo? LOL
Cicero Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, montybhopa said: 4 tournaments in 5 years. Looks like a recipe to make Messi win at least one @El Profesor You’ve solved it.
montybhopa Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Eco said: But again, it's not consecutive years. I understand that was the original plan, but you can stop going on about this consecutive year nonsense when it was only done once that I know of. Twice actually. This was supposed to be a consecutive tournament too. That's like 4 tournaments in 5 years. Way too many for an international tournament. Even AFC Asian Cup is held once in 4 years. CONMEBOL is corrupt af and their main intention behind having so many tournaments was to make Messi win at least one.
El Profesor Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, montybhopa said: 4 tournaments in 5 years. Looks like a recipe to make Messi win at least one @El Profesor Copa América is not even close to the Euro for many reasons. First, there is only 10 countries affiliated to Conmebol. The level of competition is significantly lower. And 4 of 5 teams in the group stage qualified for quarter-finals. I mean, it's not exactly must-watch TV. Ratings in Brazil have been terrible. Also, transport in South America is very expensive. Fans from other countries rarely come in a significant number. So, it doesn't have the same atmosphere of the World Cup or the Euro. Conmebol decided recently to make extra editions of Copa América and It also contributed to make the competition less exciting. IMO There is only one solution. Concacaf and Conmebol getting together and organizing one single competition for all Americas.
Cicero Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 Imagine a trillion dollar confederation that’s represented by every South America Country spending billions to organise a tournament with the sole intention of wanting Messi to win it. Yeah. I can get behind that.
Eco Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, El Profesor said: Copa América is not even close to the Euro for many reasons. First, there is only 10 countries affiliated to Conmebol. The level of competition is significantly lower. And 4 of 5 teams in the group stage qualified for quarter-finals. I mean, it's not exactly must-watch TV. Ratings in Brazil have been terrible. Also, transport in South America is very expensive. Fans from other countries rarely come in a significant number. So, it doesn't have the same atmosphere of the World Cup or the Euro. Conmebol decided recently to make extra editions of Copa América and It also contributed to make the competition less exciting. IMO There is only one solution. Concacaf and Conmebol getting together and organizing one single competition for all Americas.
El Profesor Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cicero said: Imagine a trillion dollar confederation that’s represented by every South America Country spending billions to organise a tournament with the sole intention of wanting Messi to win it. Yeah. I can get behind that. Conmebol didn't organize this extra edition of Copa América with the sole intention of making Messi champion. But... they definitely used the global interest around Messi's quest for his 1st international title to make some extra cash. The Copa América Centenario in the US in 2016 and this edition of Copa América were in my opinion clear cash grabs by Conmebol.
El Profesor Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 I'm brazilian and I rooted for my country, but man this image is extremely satisfying. Messi deserves this moment.
Toinho Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 Argentina the better side but wow forgot how pathetic South American football is to watch. Diving, rough, just ridiculous, half the game was spent with players rolling around. However, thought the Argentinian defence was very good. Messi had some good chances near the end but was kept relatively quiet, the players should’ve been dancing and throwing Di Maria around instead of Messi.
Cicero Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 Messi was the best player of the tournament by quite some margin, despite of a poor final.
Toinho Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Cicero said: Messi was the best player of the tournament by quite some margin, despite of a poor final. He was good from everything else I saw but it’s a team game. Obviously they’re happy for him.
Danny Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 Happy that he’s won a major international tournament, always been a phenomenal player for club and country so good to see that he has the silverware to go with it
Administrator Stan Posted July 11, 2021 Administrator Posted July 11, 2021 Delighted for Messi to finally win a major tournament with his country. It genuinely would have been some kind of travesty for a player of his level not to win an international competition. That picture @El Profesor put up is satisfying indeed. And this
Administrator Stan Posted July 11, 2021 Administrator Posted July 11, 2021 Also, @El Profesor do you think it holds more significance it has been won by Argentina in Brazil, even without fans? In the grand scheme of things it probably matters very little but in the moment when they look back on this tournament victory, to beat the hosts in the final must have some sweet taste to it?
Subscriber JoshBRFC+ Posted July 11, 2021 Subscriber Posted July 11, 2021 Very happy that Messi has his hands on an international trophy. His stats this year are absolutely insane considering he plays a much deeper role nowadays. The undisputed absolute goat. And the closest person to his level is Maradona.
internationalsfan Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, JoshBRFC said: Very happy that Messi has his hands on an international trophy. His stats this year are absolutely insane considering he plays a much deeper role nowadays. The undisputed absolute goat. And the closest person to his level is Maradona. Tell me when he wins a World Cup... maybe then but not yet.
Subscriber JoshBRFC+ Posted July 11, 2021 Subscriber Posted July 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, internationalsfan said: Tell me when he wins a World Cup... maybe then but not yet.
El Profesor Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 7 hours ago, Stan said: Also, @El Profesor do you think it holds more significance it has been won by Argentina in Brazil, even without fans? In the grand scheme of things it probably matters very little but in the moment when they look back on this tournament victory, to beat the hosts in the final must have some sweet taste to it? Definitely. Beating Brazil at Maracanã make it tastier to the argentinians. In terms of tradition and rivalry, I'd say Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay are on class of their own in south american football.
The Käiser Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 15 hours ago, internationalsfan said: Confederations had more than two teams though. Anyway, as the South America's keep saying the copa doesn't matter in the same way as the Euros I take it Messi hasn't won anything of note for his country yet? Also, whats with the excessive theatrics and rolling around on the pitch from Brazil and Neymar, I definitely prefer clapping your fans to that shit. I take it it's cultural as they don't do. It in Europe club teams where most of them play. Yeah and usually came down to South America and Europe team. or they met somewhere in the knockouts. the idea was already there and expanded to other confederations champions. what I would like is to see a team Europe vs team South America.
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