Honey Honey Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I'd be surprised if a investment fund saw Liverpool at that price as a good prospect. What is the turnover growth potential? It can't be much so why would you buy it other than to weather storms elsewhere under the assumption sports revenues are sturdy enough to tie up some of your wealth for needing to sell later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 On 12/11/2022 at 13:55, Honey Honey said: I'd be surprised if a investment fund saw Liverpool at that price as a good prospect. What is the turnover growth potential? It can't be much so why would you buy it other than to weather storms elsewhere under the assumption sports revenues are sturdy enough to tie up some of your wealth for needing to sell later. I was watching a vlog about why the Saudis chose Newcastle over Inter and Man United, the big reason is sphere of influence, with no natural rival we can assume domestic support and cannibalize younger would be Sunderland fans. geolocation allows expansion without competing with another club. Newcastle is also a city rather than a town thus having much greater commercial pull. for Liverpool the situation is harder due to Everton expansion is harder despite Liverpool's name. buying Liverpool for 3.5bn is already overpay and a net loss, the new owner may only start seeing profits after 15-20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, OrangeKhrush said: I was watching a vlog about why the Saudis chose Newcastle over Inter and Man United, the big reason is sphere of influence, with no natural rival we can assume domestic support and cannibalize younger would be Sunderland fans. geolocation allows expansion without competing with another club. Newcastle is also a city rather than a town thus having much greater commercial pull. for Liverpool the situation is harder due to Everton expansion is harder despite Liverpool's name. buying Liverpool for 3.5bn is already overpay and a net loss, the new owner may only start seeing profits after 15-20 years Newcastle or Liverpool there can't be that much revenue growth locally. Obviously for Newcastle there is more potential growth since it is starting from as low as it could be, but still real revenue benefit has to be new fans from elsewhere. Local growth is going to be what? Max £10m a year more than prior perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Glazers have done the same now with Man Utd. FSG have to be annoyed by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 The Glazers are elite at banter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted November 25, 2022 Subscriber Share Posted November 25, 2022 On 22/11/2022 at 22:14, 6666 said: Glazers have done the same now with Man Utd. FSG have to be annoyed by that. Who next? tbh though as a United man I hope they get a sale and get rid of them shit pots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Some of the prospective buyers that have been listed have me thinking maybe football is no longer for me tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: Some of the prospective buyers that have been listed have me thinking maybe football is no longer for me tbh. Same, it’s so disheartening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted February 20, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted February 20, 2023 What stake does John Henry own in Liverpool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Stan said: What stake does John Henry own in Liverpool? He's the biggest shareholder of FSG and chairman of FSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 They are moving Liverpool to New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcanuck Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 On 30/11/2022 at 16:24, Dr. Gonzo said: Some of the prospective buyers that have been listed have me thinking maybe football is no longer for me tbh. I wouldn't give up on football, find a lower league team to support if you can't support the new owners of Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcanuck Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 On 19/11/2022 at 04:41, OrangeKhrush said: I was watching a vlog about why the Saudis chose Newcastle over Inter and Man United, the big reason is sphere of influence, with no natural rival we can assume domestic support and cannibalize younger would be Sunderland fans. geolocation allows expansion without competing with another club. Newcastle is also a city rather than a town thus having much greater commercial pull. for Liverpool the situation is harder due to Everton expansion is harder despite Liverpool's name. buying Liverpool for 3.5bn is already overpay and a net loss, the new owner may only start seeing profits after 15-20 years You really thing you could get would be Sunderland fans to support Newcastle? That's like Leeds thinking they could pick up young fans in Sheffield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Redcanuck said: You really thing you could get would be Sunderland fans to support Newcastle? That's like Leeds thinking they could pick up young fans in Sheffield. it has already started to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 17 hours ago, OrangeKhrush said: it has already started to happen Idk how anyone from Sunderland could be a Newcastle fan knowing how much Geordies hate Mackems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 23 hours ago, Redcanuck said: I wouldn't give up on football, find a lower league team to support if you can't support the new owners of Liverpool. I've thought about it, but really I don't even think I can be arsed supporting Tranmere (who are my actual hometown club) if I have to bin off Liverpool. And Tranmere's really the only other club out there that I think I'd have some feeling of connection to. But after a life of supporting Liverpool, I just think once the love for the club is finally dead... I don't think I've got it in me to keep watching the sport anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 On 30/11/2022 at 21:24, Dr. Gonzo said: Some of the prospective buyers that have been listed have me thinking maybe football is no longer for me tbh. I'm beginning to feel that way. The circus that follows football off the pitch is gathering more headlines than what happens on the pitch and its affecting my enjoyment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 I heard something about FSG giving Klopp 300m to spend in the summer. that's a nice kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said: I heard something about FSG giving Klopp 300m to spend in the summer. that's a nice kitty No chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, OrangeKhrush said: I heard something about FSG giving Klopp 300m to spend in the summer. that's a nice kitty You believe way too much transfer bollocks No way FSG will sell that much without spending. And after this season, who's spending the kind of fees we'd need for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 On 22/02/2023 at 07:59, The Palace Fan said: I'm beginning to feel that way. The circus that follows football off the pitch is gathering more headlines than what happens on the pitch and its affecting my enjoyment. Beginning? It's been that way for quite some time imo mate. I still watch football but the love affair I had with the sport isn't the same as it was for me most of my life. I don't find practically any personal association with what's going on in the sport now. This is not fan based and I was a football fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 47 minutes ago, SirBalon said: Beginning? It's been that way for quite some time imo mate. I still watch football but the love affair I had with the sport isn't the same as it was for me most of my life. I don't find practically any personal association with what's going on in the sport now. This is not fan based and I was a football fan. I feel its got worse. It's expected during a transfer window but now it just feels constant. Without thinking twice I can list of: - Fifa corruption. - The constant super league talk. - The Barcelona levers. - VAR - Middle East sportwashing attempts. - Todd Boehly making a meme of himself. - Big clubs constantly getting in trouble for cooking the books. - The Ronaldo circus. It's all overshadowing what will be a fantastic relegation battle and hopefully a title race where Arsenal can push Man City all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 9 hours ago, The Palace Fan said: I feel its got worse. It's expected during a transfer window but now it just feels constant. Without thinking twice I can list of: - Fifa corruption. - The constant super league talk. - The Barcelona levers. - VAR - Middle East sportwashing attempts. - Todd Boehly making a meme of himself. - Big clubs constantly getting in trouble for cooking the books. - The Ronaldo circus. It's all overshadowing what will be a fantastic relegation battle and hopefully a title race where Arsenal can push Man City all the way. You’ve cited some if the hundreds of more recent headlines football has been embroiled in. There are hundreds of them, an endless myriad of non football asinine moments. But for me and my loss of passion for this sport has a more simplistic sentiment basis. It’s what fandoms have become (Infact it transcends football and is more a social phenomena)... the focus on non sporting outside issues that have added to the “win, lose or draw” sensation when attempting to put one over on a “rival”. The fact traditional historic rivalries are now simply a media based selling point of an overall product... the ‘overall product’ actually being the authentic basis of support etc... etc... etc... I could go on. But what I do know is that this football has practically no relationship to the football I once knew aside from the sphere on the lawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 13 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: You believe way too much transfer bollocks No way FSG will sell that much without spending. And after this season, who's spending the kind of fees we'd need for that I know this season has been hard but you have had six years of being well run, the first sign of adversity is being grossly overreacted to. FSG have backed the club and done so without breaking rules. this season seemed to back the adage of "never rains it pours" in that so many things went wrong at once. 300m or 200m in the summer will let you significantly refresh the team, Bellingham would be massive and some tweaks elsewhere maybe a CB and CM on top of Bellingham is all you really need as the team is not broken maybe move a couple out like Keita, Ox, Gomes, Matip and replace them with a good player. Liverpool's problems are grossly over exaggerated. you will be back to normal next season when you rebuild essentially midfield and center defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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