Guest Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Its easy to mistake performances for talent. They are not the same. Something I've learned from youth coaches and in scouting, but talent and performances are 2 different things. For example, if you perform well in a poor league but don't show the proper technique or physique, then you're not exactly "talented" but rather a proper performer. Talent is showing your ability and what you are capable of, it does not always translate to good performances. That is what is needed to make the step up to bigger leagues. If that doesn't make sense, think Jonathan Calleri and Gabriel Jesus. Calleri scored a lot more than Jesus did in South America and performed all the time, but he wasn't exactly talented. He was a player who got the job done, and when it came time to step up to a bigger league, he failed. Gabriel Jesus on the other hand, did have talent and that's why so far his spell in England has been successful for his age. He knows how to shoot with precision and is very good off the ball. That's why one player succeeded and the other one didn't. Also has to do with how you are being played by the manager, whether it suits your style but that's just another part of talent to me. Being tactically complete or tactically naive adds to that. One thing youth coaches have always told me, youth tournaments aren't about winning, but rather learning and showcasing your talent. Its a way to prepare you for professionality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 As much as wierd it may sound Europa league should be a competition of best teams from second divisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Infantino is worse than Blatter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,918 Posted May 2, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Blue said: Infantino is worse than Blatter. I had this exact thought earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss 800 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 (edited) ‘Zidanes y Pavones' is the model that most clubs should operate. Develop your own players and only buy in special talented players to compliment them. Too many clubs seem to waste money and 'buy for depth'. Italian clubs especially can be guilty of this short term thinking and bring in 'cheap' experience to the detriment of young players trying to break through. Edited June 10, 2018 by ScoRoss 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, ScoRoss said: ‘Zidanes y Pavones' is the model that most clubs should operate. Develop your own players and only buy in special talented players to compliment them. Too many clubs seem to waste money and 'buy for depth'. Italian clubs especially can be guilty of this short term thinking and bring in 'cheap' experience to the detriment of young players trying to break through. Where did you learn the terminology "Zidanes y Pavones"? Thats very Spanish from Florentino's first stint as president! But it's also very true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoRoss 800 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, SirBalon said: Where did you learn the terminology "Zidanes y Pavones"? Thats very Spanish from Florentino's first stint as president! But it's also very true! I've definitely encountered the 'philosophy' in various articles and books throughout the years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Just now, ScoRoss said: I've definitely encountered the 'philosophy' in various articles and books throughout the years. Indeed... It's become a football philosophy in the last 15 years. I'm. Rey pleasantly surprised and now I understand everything football about you just with using that term (a term I've wanted to use in the past but didn't because I thought nobody would've known what I was on about). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Didier Drogba is the best and greatest target-man of all time. It's an odd role, really. It requires a lot more dirty work than typical forwards, and in that I've always though ~10 per season is a good return for a target-man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 16 hours ago, Spike said: Didier Drogba is the best and greatest target-man of all time. It's an odd role, really. It requires a lot more dirty work than typical forwards, and in that I've always though ~10 per season is a good return for a target-man. Nah, Kevin Davies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, The Artful Dodger said: Nah, Kevin Davies 38 minutes ago, Cannabis said: Kevin Davies is a talentless shitcunt. I was actually think about big KD when writing my post. He was clutch for Bolton, defs better than Duncan Ferguson, tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Mark Viduka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smiley Culture 1,651 Posted July 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2018 This World Cup isn’t actually good in terms of quality. Entertainment wise, yes by far but quality has been thin on the ground. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,663 Posted July 2, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted July 2, 2018 39 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said: This World Cup isn’t actually good in terms of quality. Entertainment wise, yes by far but quality has been thin on the ground. Probably not necessarily an unpopular one if you were to run a poll or something. Nobody has had a standout team at this World Cup. A lot of teams have the potential to win the tournament because they have 2-4 top class players and decent players in every position after that. This has seen some of the main contenders (I'm thinking France and Brazil in particular) pace themselves and try to get through with the least amount of effort expended possible. There have been some quality goals but in terms of quality play yes it has been pretty limited. A lot of teams choosing to ride out pragmatic 1-0 wins as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Champions league should be about the league winners only and the Europa league should be about the cup winners only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Sergio Ramos is the most influential player in Real Madrid's modern history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Euro 2008 was the last good international tournament quality and entertainment wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 On 17/07/2018 at 12:09, SirBalon said: Sergio Ramos is the most influential player in Real Madrid's modern history. Care to explain ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 5 hours ago, Devon Von Devon said: Care to explain ? The La Liga title that Real won two years ago wouldn't have happened without Sergio Ramos and neither would the first of the Champions Leagues against Atlético Madrid and the first two of three in a row either. Minus what I've said and we would have probably the poorest era in Real Madrid's history. In essence... Sergio Ramos is the messiah of Real Madrid CF and their most influential player since Alfredo Di Stéfano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Gold 599 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, SirBalon said: The La Liga title that Real won two years ago wouldn't have happened without Sergio Ramos and neither would the first of the Champions Leagues against Atlético Madrid and the first two of three in a row either. Minus what I've said and we would have probably the poorest era in Real Madrid's history. In essence... Sergio Ramos is the messiah of Real Madrid CF and their most influential player since Alfredo Di Stéfano. Fair to say the last Champions League win wouldn't have happened without Ramos either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, Burning Gold said: Fair to say the last Champions League win wouldn't have happened without Ramos either Actually that's no joke... I genuinely add that to Sergio Ramos's out and out legend early status and not just the most influential player in Real Madrid's history, but one of the most in the history of the modern game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Kaiserslautern successive relegation, promotion, and first division win is more impressive than what Leicester did. @nudge @Tommy Your thoughts guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,616 Posted September 3, 2018 Moderator Share Posted September 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Spike said: Kaiserslautern successive relegation, promotion, and first division win is more impressive than what Leicester did. @nudge @Tommy Your thoughts guys? Definitely. They did it all on their own, with their own money, and not the money from some Thai company. So it's definitely more impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber nudge+ 15,325 Posted September 3, 2018 Subscriber Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tommy said: Definitely. They did it all on their own, with their own money, and not the money from some Thai company. So it's definitely more impressive. To be fair, they did have König Otto though.. That's kind of an unfair advantage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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