Danny Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Batard said: I used to do exactly the same thing. I was trying to kick the ball. I used to get wiped out by goalkeepers too. Were they trying to endanger me? Of course not. Likewise I wasn't them. We've lost the notion of accidents in the moment. Because that is what it was Intent doesn't matter. Mane did endanger him.
Inverted Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 A wee part of me there thought that was offside. Guardiola also seemed doubtful. That would really add insult to injury haha.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted September 9, 2017 Subscriber Posted September 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Inverted said: Sorry, you're right. Klopp should have gotten onto his knees and begged the City fans for forgiveness. Every fan of every club, of every level of interest in Liverpool, was seriously concerned about Klopp's level of remorse for the challenge. Bored of you now mate. I made one comment about Klopp because he was doing his cocky sneer and Mane was smirking going off the pitch too as if it's outrageous he was punished after he literally kicked someone in the face. Hurry up and accuse me of applauding Funes Mori when he came off the pitch at Anfield beating his chest after getting red carded for a horror challenge on a Liverpool player so we can move this debate to its conclusion.
Danny Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, Inverted said: It's not like Mane's swinging his leg into his face, it's just up there and the natural momentum of the collision brings them together. Players bring their legs into high positions all the time, especially when a goal could come of it. Every single challenge in football can injure a player. Every 50/50 is a potential leg-breaker. You can't say "there was a risk" and say that's serious foul play. Everything in football carries a risk. That's exactly what Mane did, he jumped into the air and swung his foot into Edersons face. Literally very physically did that.
El Profesor Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 This one is over. How many games will Mané be suspended for?
Rick Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 Bet this ends up 5-0. We just look absolutely demoralised now. DeBruyne and Silva are just unreal btw, class pairing. Milner on for Gini, the right decision, we need a little more bite in the midfield.
Burning Gold Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, El_Loco said: This one is over. How many games will Mané be suspended for? Three. Klopp may have to bring Coutinho back a little sooner than he'd have liked. I think one of the games he'll miss will be the league cup game against Leicester, which is a slight consolation.
Inverted Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Danny said: That's exactly what Mane did, he jumped into the air and swung his face into Edersons face. Literally very physically did that. His leg is already fully extended in anticipation of bringing the ball down. The momentum of the impact is entirely because Mane is flying in one direction and Ederson in the opposite. In any case we're talking past each other. You say he put Ederson at risk and yes it's the rules that endangering an opponent is a red. I say that almost every challenge carries a danger of injury and so that shows that the rule is clearly not interpreted literally/absolutely.
The Artful Dodger Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 Guardiola's teams always look excellent against 10 men.
Dave Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 In the heat of the moment I wouldn't have given it as a red card but seeing replays I can see why it's been given. He may not have intended to cause injury but lunging in with a foot that high is dangerous and Ederson could have easily been knocked unconscious.
Honey Honey Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 All my life leading with your studs has been considered dangerous play. The moment you do so you accept responsibility for the decision to do that and waive the right to plead it is an accident.
Inverted Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 Just now, The Artful Dodger said: Guardiola's teams always look excellent against 10 men. They also always look excellent with 10 men funnily enough. It's weird to see a manager that's so good at dealing with both sides of the coin.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted September 9, 2017 Subscriber Posted September 9, 2017 Ederson with potential cheek and jaw fractures, in the stink about Mane and the decision you forget to credit the goalkeepers bravery, I don't see Joe Hart sticking his head in there to protect his goal, put it that way. Having 11 v 10 makes this a write off unfortunately. Teamsheets soon for our game...
Danny Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 He's not had a lot to do since the red, but John Stones has looked decent
Rick Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 I'm really annoyed at our lack of any pressing now. Were giving city free reign to just walk about with the ball. We'll concede whether we play like this or if we go at them a bit, so give them something to fucking think about at least.
6666 Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 Not saying he meant to put his foot into the keeper's head but he did know Ederson was running out. Him looking directly at the ball doesn't mean he somehow no longer had the same peripheral vision as a normal person.
El Profesor Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Burning Gold said: Three. Klopp may have to bring Coutinho back a little sooner than he'd have liked. Good point, Coutinho will probably return in the next match. Liverpool really fell off when Mané went to CAN last season, right? He´s your most important player and not having him for 3 matches is a big loss for Liverpool.
Bluewolf Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Burning Gold said: Just read that bringing him on is like waving the white flag of defeat...
Cicero Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 CFC XI to face #LCFC: Courtois, Moses, Rudiger, Luiz, Azpilicueta, Alonso, Kante, Fabregas, Bakayoko, Pedro, Morata.
Dave Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 Those saying it's not a red need to remember the leg breaks of Eduardo and Ramsey. Taylor and Shawcross never meant to cause such injury but both accepted the red cards as it was reckless. It's the same principle.
Bluewolf Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 1 hour ago, HoneyNUFC said: Just as a reminder this blood drawing kick wasn't even given as a foul and the sky team said nothing. How can you be so inconsistent with the rules??? Just makes a mockery of the rules surrounding dangerous play...
Burning Gold Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 Just now, El_Loco said: Good point, Coutinho will probably return in the next match. Liverpool really fell off when Mané went to CAN last season, right? He´s your most important player and not having him for 3 matches is a big loss for Liverpool. Actually, I was wrong. Because it was serious foul play, rather than violent conduct, he'll only be suspended for one game, which will be vs Burnley next week.
Inverted Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, Danny said: He's not had a lot to do since the red, but John Stones has looked decent He looked quality before the red tbf.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted September 9, 2017 Subscriber Posted September 9, 2017 No width there again, no Lookman in the squad but Vlasic and Mirallas offer that option from the bench. Klaassen and Sandro returning is hopefully a boost, but Martina... eurgh.
Bluewolf Posted September 9, 2017 Posted September 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Cicero said: CFC XI to face #LCFC: Courtois, Moses, Rudiger, Luiz, Azpilicueta, Alonso, Kante, Fabregas, Bakayoko, Pedro, Morata. We had better see Hazard on today... he seems to be fit for every other fucker
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