carefreeluke 722 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I did worry slightly when I saw our line up but that was one of the worst performances I've seen from us in a long time. Everyone an embarrassment. We can moan about some team selection issues but the mentality of these players once again seriously comes under question for me and that's the most worrying thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 minute ago, carefreeluke said: I did worry slightly when I saw our line up but that was one of the worst performances I've seen from us in a long time. Everyone an embarrassment. We can moan about some team selection issues but the mentality of these players once again seriously comes under question for me and that's the most worrying thing. You keep picking underperforming players ahead of those that do perform, what do you expect? Baffling really. You really think Rudiger or Christensen would of defended that poorly? Or Musonda/Pedro to do as bad as Willian and Batshuayi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 27 minutes ago, Cannabis said: No Premier League team should be getting beat 7-2, a joke for Stoke to even try and make light of the situation. Should have read sometimes you've got to hold your hands up and accept you're not good enough for the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machado 1,710 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Best player in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 This Watford Arsenal game is a work of art. The way the light blue and yellow kits compliment the green grass is HD at its finest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC 357 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I hate the Xhaka/Elneny midfield partnership it never works. Really think Wilshere should have been involved from the start. We are really relying on Alex Iwobi to be our creative outlet with no Alexis and Özil. Can see this being a tight one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, HoneyNUFC said: Should have read sometimes you've got to hold your hands up and accept you're not good enough for the Premier League Oh but they are, comfortably. Fact is the Prem is a pretty poor standard, the reason we,vet never had teams wiping the floor with teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid is because we've never had teams anywhere near that quality. Maybe that's changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke 722 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 39 minutes ago, Cicero said: You keep picking underperforming players ahead of those that do perform, what do you expect? Baffling really. You really think Rudiger or Christensen would of defended that poorly? Or Musonda/Pedro to do as bad as Willian and Batshuayi? You're right mate but mentality is where thing's start. Even though I questioned the mentality of this team at times last season, for the most part in the league week in week out, we were on it from the start which was one of the factors in us winning the league. We were incredibly ruthless last season in the league but even more so against teams outside the top six, we were motivated and even despite seeing the line up today I was still quietly confident as we normally do the business against the lower teams. Everyone was dreadful, Bakayoko, Hazard, Azpi, Luiz, Courtois everyone today. Worrying as you don't normally get that passiveness from a Conte side especially after going into the game off of a defeat. Conte gives the club a lot, he's made a good few of these players look a lot better than what they are but the reality is there's still a lot of dross in our squad, players that are very dependent on the system and the players around them. I fear slightly for the next manager that picks up this squad. Conte's selection wasn't good today I agree but the more worrying thing was how passive we looked, that side is more than capable of beating Palace. The blame falls on Conte of course but it doesn't take away the fact that there's still doubts for me about the mentality and real ability of a lot of these players something which I was saying last season as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 minute ago, carefreeluke said: You're right mate but mentality is where thing's start. Even though I questioned the mentality of this team at times last season, for the most part in the league week in week out, we were on it from the start which was one of the factors in us winning the league. We were incredibly ruthless last season in the league but even more so against teams outside the top six, we were motivated and even despite seeing the line up today I was still quietly confident as we normally do the business against the lower teams. Everyone was dreadful, Bakayoko, Hazard, Azpi, Luiz, Courtois everyone today. Worrying as you don't normally get that passiveness from a Conte side especially after going into the game off of a defeat. Conte gives the club a lot, he's made a good few of these players look a lot better than what they are but the reality is there's still a lot of dross in our squad, players that are very dependent on the system and the players around them. I fear slightly for the next manager that picks up this squad. Conte's selection wasn't good today I agree but the more worrying thing was how passive we looked, that side is more than capable of beating Palace. The blame falls on Conte of course but it doesn't take away the fact that there's still doubts for me about the mentality and real ability of a lot of these players something which I was saying last season as well. today we played in first gear for most of the match, Agreed mate. Mentality usually isnt an issue as we typically bounce back, but quality is where it'll hurt us. Our attack isnt good enough as well as our wingbacks. Pep has his targets and City's board get them. Without hesitation. They still want Alexis too. They show ambition. Conte won't ever have that here, especially when our board are penny pinching for fucking Drinkwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke 722 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Cicero said: 2-1 Zaha @carefreeluke Your favorite chelsea player at fault for the goal and with another poor performance. What's the definition of insanity again? Everyone needs to watch highlights of his performances this season, I honestly think he's the biggest fraud in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Efficient at the moment and we’ve grown into the game. Hopefully we can take total command in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,406 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 You couldn't make it up. No points, no goals, no strikers, no hope, then we turn over The Champions. There was an energy today I haven't seen this season. Having Wilfs pace, energy, skill and direct play back in to the team was a huge boost. As was possibly so many players needing to prove a point given how dismal we were against United. Chelsea fans have every right to be angry about their performance mind you. We had a 38 year old in goal for crying our loud. From the first minute you could tell that mentally they weren't prepared for us to put up any sort of performance. The three half chances before our goal really caught them by surprise. We can't take our eye off what we've achieved today. We have to build on this against Newcastle and West Ham. Even if it's two score draws. The talk of a crisis was always a little premature. We were only ever two results off safety. But it's about building these characters to believe and recogniwe that. Avoiding defeat in the next two games will go a long way to building confidence in a favourable Christmas fixture run in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Cannabis said: He'd be fucked if a game went to extra-time though, no way can he be out for 120 minutes in the Manchester Sun. God rid in favor of Oscar. Possibly the worst thing this club has ever done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Carrillo is still silly inconsistent I see. He seriously needs a manager like Gareca. I do believe Silva will be that man as he's got him to perform to his max once before but it will take some time. On form he's a ridiculously good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Machado said: Best player in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 1,310 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Watford's equaliser was never a penalty. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Debruyne shits over anyone at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC 357 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 We are such a joke. Imagine conceding a 90th minute winner to Tom Cleverly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, Chaaay AFC said: We are such a joke. Imagine conceding a 90th minute winner to Tom Cleverly. Could have been worse, it could have been Carrillo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,012 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Needs to drop this 5 at the back! Who plays 5 at the back agaisnt watford, Wenger needs to fuck off now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC 357 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Just now, Blue said: Could have been worse, it could have been Carrillo No it is worst Arsene Wenger is still our manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger 1,831 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Definitely a harsh penalty but Arsenal were wasteful and to lose it is really poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 1,310 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Shit result, shit performance. Could've gone 3 points clear of Chelsea and Liverpool and we decided to play like that. The decision for the penalty was a joke, probably still would've gotten away with a 1-0 win if it wasn't for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC 357 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Fucking can we just put Elneny in the bin. Why are we wasting our time with him, Wilshere had to start this game today especially with Ramsey, Özil and Alexis out. Wenger gave too much respect to Watford today and paid the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panna King 1,012 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Ozil should of scored and that is why no one wants him, what does he actually do these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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