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Champions League Final 2018 - LIVERPOOL 1-3 REAL MADRID


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3 minutes ago, Blue said:

Ronaldo is so incosistent these days. He scores important goals but often they are just a decent finish out of nothing. He's absolutely finished and that is being masked by his "influence" of his important goals. 

His marketability remains for people to keep thinking he's one of the best in the world, but to me he is just another player. Kroos and Modric are the 2 best players on Real Madrid. Marcelo is also a shout.

Ronaldo's finished? You post some absolute nonsense.

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4 minutes ago, Blue said:

Ronaldo is so incosistent these days. He scores important goals but often they are just a decent finish out of nothing. He's absolutely finished and that is being masked by his "influence" of his important goals. 

His marketability remains for people to keep thinking he's one of the best in the world, but to me he is just another player. Kroos and Modric are the 2 best players on Real Madrid. Marcelo is also a shout.

He isn't 'just another player', he doesn't touch Messi but that man is on a different level. There aren't many strikers that can do what Ronaldo does, people to forget that he isn't the player he was in 2007. You're reality is distorted if you think Ronaldo is 'finished'. Finished players don't score 44 times in a season. Many great players don't get close to that number.

On another note, even Maradona didn't score in his Copa Italia and Supercopa Italia wins. 

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Just now, Danny said:

Liverpool deserved to lose, horrific goalkeeping. But that ref was terrible, an example as to why diving ruins the sport that allows contact.

Such a coincidence how Spanish teams win so much in Europe :coffee:

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1 minute ago, Spike said:

He isn't 'just another player', he doesn't touch Messi but that man is on a different level. There aren't many strikers that can do what Ronaldo does, people to forget that he isn't the player he was in 2007. 

On another note, even Maradona didn't score in his Copa Italia and Supercopa Italia wins. 

Maradona could have a good game without scoring a goal. 

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Just now, Chaaay AFC said:

Ronaldo's finished? You post some absolute nonsense.

What games do you watch? He is nothing compared to the 2007-2014 era.

 

Just now, Spike said:

He isn't 'just another player', he doesn't touch Messi but that man is on a different level. There aren't many strikers that can do what Ronaldo does, people to forget that he isn't the player he was in 2007. 

On another note, even Maradona didn't score in his Copa Italia and Supercopa Italia wins. 

It may have sounded harsh, but everytime I see Ronaldo this days he's always a passenger that shows up and scores the odd goal. That's not the Ronaldo I remember from a few years ago. He's along the lines of Suarez of this year for me.

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Just now, Spike said:

That is all that people base Ronaldo on these days. We have to compare apples to apples.

Ronaldo does nothing special except score goals. That's why people judge him that way.

Maradona was a sincerely stunning footballer and that's why he's considered one of the best ever. 

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Just now, Spike said:

That is all that people base Ronaldo on these days. We have to compare apples to apples.

Maradona could do anything he wanted with the ball. Ronaldo could too, 4 years ago. 

In his prime I have no doubt he's one of the best 10 players to ever play the game, but right now he is simply not that. 

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1 minute ago, Spike said:

He isn't 'just another player', he doesn't touch Messi but that man is on a different level. There aren't many strikers that can do what Ronaldo does, people to forget that he isn't the player he was in 2007. 

On another note, even Maradona didn't score in his Copa Italia and Supercopa Italia wins. 

Exactly. Just because Cristiano is not on Messi´s level, it doesn´t mean he is an average player. Far from it. He is still a heck of a player. 

On Maradona. that´s also an interesting point. He was the best player of his era, but it´s a myth that the Napoli he played was a bad team. He had some very good players around him. 

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Just now, Blue said:

What games do you watch? He is nothing compared to the 2007-2014 era.

 

It may have sounded harsh, but everytime I see Ronaldo this days he's always a passenger that shows up and scores the odd goal. That's not the Ronaldo I remember from a few years ago. He's along the lines of Suarez of this year for me.

As I said in my edit 'You're reality is distorted if you think Ronaldo is 'finished'. Finished players don't score 44 times in a season. Many great players don't get close to that number.' 

Yeah he isn't at his best. But all time greats like Van Basten and van Nistelrooy didn't do that into their 30s. I don't know what bizarre standard you hold Ronaldo at.

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1 minute ago, Spike said:

As I said in my edit 'You're reality is distorted if you think Ronaldo is 'finished'. Finished players don't score 44 times in a season. Many great players don't get close to that number.' 

Yeah he isn't at his best. But all time greats like Van Basten and van Nistelrooy didn't do that into their 30s. I don't know what bizarre standard you hold Ronaldo at.

Stats mean fuck all when before he could create chances by himself, and now he relies on others to create the chances for him. I'm not saying he's a bad player, I am saying he is finished, as he's just too inconsistent these days and again needs to really rely on chances made by his teammates on the contrary to before.

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3 minutes ago, Spike said:

As I said in my edit 'You're reality is distorted if you think Ronaldo is 'finished'. Finished players don't score 44 times in a season. Many great players don't get close to that number.' 

Yeah he isn't at his best. But all time greats like Van Basten and van Nistelrooy didn't do that into their 30s. I don't know what bizarre standard you hold Ronaldo at.

Finished players also tend not to have such marketing power that a world class team feels compelled to keep them and supply them with bucketload of chances. 

Its a new, bizarre, commercialised world and Ronaldo is a symbol of it.

If not the symbol.

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4 minutes ago, Blue said:

What games do you watch? He is nothing compared to the 2007-2014 era.

 

It may have sounded harsh, but everytime I see Ronaldo this days he's always a passenger that shows up and scores the odd goal. That's not the Ronaldo I remember from a few years ago. He's along the lines of Suarez of this year for me.

A man who has just smashed 44 goals in and 15 in the best club competition in the world is nowhere near finished.

Of course he is not as dynamic as he once was, but he has adapted his play style and is still unbelievably effective. Still easily one of the best two players in the world.

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I hope Sergio Ramos falls down the stairs at his mansion, breaks both legs and falls onto some phallic shaped trophy he must have, and it goes right up his arse, and then he shits all over it and has to go to the emergency room all covered in shit & fucked up legs.  

Fucking cunt. 

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@Spike let me put it to you this way

Ronaldo 3-4 years ago was arguably the best player in the world.

Now, how can you rank him above the likes of Neymar, Messi who are geniuses on the ball or Kroos and Modric who are all around game changers.

Ronaldo has nothing that matches them other than good finishing. Before he was a great all around player, now he is limited. Thus, for me he is finished. Don't let those 44 goals mask you. Each to their own but its not that my reality is distorted, I just don't think he's one of the 5 best anymore.

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