Ben Chilwell - Chelsea

[Dan+]

For what it's worth I still think you've done some good business this summer, Silva would be a real coup and if you sign a new keeper I think you'll come 3rd at worst. I do think you could've spent this a bit better though.

I just really hope our old scouting team get the say on who we buy and charlatan Congerton doesn't have too much of a sway, because we'll only go and blow it ourselves if so.

[Bluewolf]

1 minute ago, Spike said:

No, he said Chilwell lacks a good football brain, not one entirely.

Sounds as though he has the same traits... holding on to the ball that bit too long before losing it... Interestingly I believe Lampard wants him because he can go from defence to attack with pace which just adds to my thinking that Lampard is throwing all his sausages on the BBQ an hour before the guests arrive and going for attack minded players with little thought about the defensive part of the game.. He will be hoping we can score 6 each game and then sweating we don't concede 7

[Spike]

5 minutes ago, Bluewolf said:

Sounds as though he has the same traits... holding on to the ball that bit too long before losing it... Interestingly I believe Lampard wants him because he can go from defence to attack with pace which just adds to my thinking that Lampard is throwing all his sausages on the BBQ an hour before the guests arrive and going for attack minded players with little thought about the defensive part of the game.. He will be hoping we can score 6 each game and then sweating we don't concede 7

Sounds good to me, Kev Keegan rant from Lampard would be great

[Chaaay AFC]

Leicester have done it again somehow, wish we could get prices that good for some of our players. 

[DNA]

Seems to be a lot of negative and pessimism with this one from both camps and although the fee Chelsea have paid is reasonable-ish (in this market) there will be the negative Maguire comparisons that Chilwell will be aware of going into this one. I can see it working out well, Lampard really is going all-out on attack; if the focus is on 'this' kind of player for their defence then a top keeper becomes even more important.

[carefreeluke]

 

 

 

11 hours ago, Dan said:

He's such an odd one Chilwell. His strengths in his game can make him look a very good player, the way he can carry the ball forwards and the fact he can keep doing it, that is big and the real selling point with him.

But I really do see some flaws with him. Not great one on one (watch Norwich's goal at home to us, I was genuinely stunned at how badly he defended it), often keeps running that bit too long to the point the opposition settle, has this weird tendency to run the ball out of play. He will have some good games for you where you think it was worth it but having watched that Europa League final earlier, the thought that Reguilon can be bought for a fraction of the price is just mental to me, he's so blatantly a better player.

I think he lacks a good football brain at times and that is a fundamental problem.

The thing is we haven't had a lot of mobility, energy and directness at left back now for years. We've either had Azpilicueta playing there, Alonso or Emerson. Azpilicueta is a right back, Alonso can't carry the ball forward or doesn't have the general mobility to overlap quickly or to run with the ball. Alonso's strength is that he's a clutch player in and around the box when you've got opposition teams on the ropes, he's useful because he'll take up good attacking positions in the area and if you think about the fact that he's played wing-back for us a lot, he's allowed to take up those attacking positions a lot more than the average left-back would. That his only strength really in attack, he's also got a decent shot on him and he's a decent free kick taker as well. We have however lacked a full back with Chilwell's skillset for a while now, someone that can be direct, energetic and carry the ball which in turn would hopefully allow the attacking players around him more space. We haven't had a left back who's just going to be direct and up and down the pitch for us for a while. Alonso hasn't got the mobility to do that and Emerson overall has been a bit meh. 

I'm trying to look at the positives Chilwell would bring. Hopefully he can come in and improve his overall game with us as well, keeping Alonso would also allow us to keep Chilwell on his toes and it gives us two left-backs with different traits and qualities. I think we could also get some decent money for Emerson as well which would help with the costs of the Chilwell deal.

[Cicero]

Romano claiming Tagliafico is the replacement 

[Bluewolf]

One things for sure, If we get all the players we want regardless of how we go about the defensive issues we should be a very exciting side going forward... 

[Stan]

Chilwell's gonna be on £190k/week.

 

Staggering. 

[Cicero]

Mental those wages. 

Looks like a 5 year deal for £50m upfront + £ 15m add ons.

[LFCMadLad]

Will be interesting to see how Chelsea get away with all this money being thrown around? I mean, its not like they make a lot, even with fans allowed into their small stadium. 

Roman probably looked at City getting away with murder and thought "fuck it". 

[Stan]

36 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said:

Will be interesting to see how Chelsea get away with all this money being thrown around? I mean, its not like they make a lot, even with fans allowed into their small stadium. 

Roman probably looked at City getting away with murder and thought "fuck it". 

I also think no Chelsea fan can ever moan about another club's spending ever again with how they've gone about business this summer. I know they have Hazard and Morata money in but that only counts for so much. Especially if they win stuff this season - can't have a go at the likes of Man City doing the same. 

[Cicero]

1 hour ago, LFCMadLad said:

Will be interesting to see how Chelsea get away with all this money being thrown around? I mean, its not like they make a lot, even with fans allowed into their small stadium. 

Roman probably looked at City getting away with murder and thought "fuck it". 

 

1 hour ago, Stan said:

I also think no Chelsea fan can ever moan about another club's spending ever again with how they've gone about business this summer. I know they have Hazard and Morata money in but that only counts for so much. Especially if they win stuff this season - can't have a go at the likes of Man City doing the same. 

If everything materialises, we'd be at a net spend of about negative £145 million. And this is assuming we don't sell Bakayoko, Batshuayi, Barkley, Drinkwater, Zappacosta, Moses, Emerson, etc. Which is highly unlikely we don't offload at least 3-5 of them. 

Also, didn't Liverpool have a net spend of around negative £120 million during their rebuild?  

We are well within our means to spend again given this information. 

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Net Transfer spent across the last 5 seasons:

1. Man City - £506m
2. Man Utd - £379m
3. Everton - £275m
4. Arsenal - £249m
5. Aston Villa - £198m
6. Brighton - £197m
7. Wolves - £185m
8. West Ham - £156m
9. Chelsea - £133m

 

 

 

 

[Cicero]

Confirmed. Welcome Chilwell.

 

[Stan]

Nice. £50m (+ more) in the bank. 

 

Now let's fucking buy some players. 

[Cicero]

Thiago Silva to be announced tomorrow. 

Havertz potentially Friday. 

3 minutes ago, Stan said:

Now let's fucking buy some players. 

We need to sell some fucking players. 

[Stan]

2 minutes ago, Cicero said:

Thiago Silva to be announced tomorrow. 

Havertz potentially Friday. 

We need to sell some fucking players. 

We'll take Havertz on a loan. Give him some time to bed in to the PL... 

[Cicero]

Alex Telles, Reguillon, and even Tagliafico are left backs we have been linked with and in my opinion better than Chilwell. 

Lampard's had his mind set on him and only him, so Lampard will get some stick if he doesn't hit the ground running. 

[Rick]

Leicester are laughing. Now go buy Tagliafico for half the money. 

Is Chilwell really that much better than Alonso? I don’t think so, he’s basically the same player. Decent forward, can suspect at the back. Waste of 50m on the face of it. 

[Tepmz]

Incredible bit of business from Leicester there I think, especially if they're able to flip that money into a replacement along the lines of a Tagliafico esque player. Not convinced that Chilwell is too much more than a player coming off a very good half-season, but at least Lampard is acknowledging that his defence is an area of that team which requires investment. Certainly not a player I'd price at 50m, but he's a young English international who has developed through their youth system. With Maguire going for 80, I'm genuinely a little surprised it's not a higher upfront cost.

[Cicero]

Look at these new members and no case study.

I'm loving it 

[Stan]

13 minutes ago, Cicero said:

Alex Telles, Reguillon, and even Tagliafico are left backs we have been linked with and in my opinion better than Chilwell. 

Lampard's had his mind set on him and only him, so Lampard will get some stick if he doesn't hit the ground running. 

Is it to do with your homegrown quotas? I'm guessing not but I do wonder why Lampard was so insistent in wanting him when like you say other better options around. 

13 minutes ago, Rick said:

Leicester are laughing. Now go buy Tagliafico for half the money. 

Is Chilwell really that much better than Alonso? I don’t think so, he’s basically the same player. Decent forward, can suspect at the back. Waste of 50m on the face of it. 

Very similar players. Can't defend very well and attack is their first thing on their minds. Might fit Chelsea's style of play but its not that much of an improvement on Alonso, if any. 

10 minutes ago, Tepmz said:

Incredible bit of business from Leicester there I think, especially if they're able to flip that money into a replacement along the lines of a Tagliafico esque player. Not convinced that Chilwell is too much more than a player coming off a very good half-season, but at least Lampard is acknowledging that his defence is an area of that team which requires investment. Certainly not a player I'd price at 50m, but he's a young English international who has developed through their youth system. With Maguire going for 80, I'm genuinely a little surprised it's not a higher upfront cost.

Welcome to the forums! 

[Cicero]

30 minutes ago, Rick said:

Leicester are laughing. Now go buy Tagliafico for half the money. 

Is Chilwell really that much better than Alonso? I don’t think so, he’s basically the same player. Decent forward, can suspect at the back. Waste of 50m on the face of it. 

Aside the fact Chilwell can carry the ball forward and beat players to put in a cross. Not to mention he actually has pace. 

Alonso more of a goal threat and set piece specialist, but slow as a turtle. 

 

[Stan]

7 minutes ago, Cicero said:

Aside the fact Chilwell can carry the ball forward and beat players to put in a cross. Not to mention he actually has pace. 

Alonso more of a goal threat and set piece specialist, but slow as a turtle. 

 

Beat players, cut back, pass backwards.

Beat players, cross, miss all targets.

Beat players, get shit-scared around the box, knock the ball out of play.

Enjoy  

[Michael]

Lets be honest, Chilewll is overpriced at £50 million, especially in these times of COVID-19. However, at least he is not as overpriced as the £80 million Man Utd paid for Maguire. But Chelsea seem to have money to burn this summer, so it's seemingly not an issue for them to pay such large amounts of money on transfers.