Harry Kane joins Bayern Munich

[Michael]

3 hours ago, Tommy said:

Why are you so obsessed with Hitler?

Maybe it's because he only had one ball.

[Storts]

While I've been preparing for this day for a while, it doesn't get any easier to deal with.

I have so many different strands of thought running through my head and I'm going to try and get it written down as I'm hoping it's going to make things easier but I can't make any promises that I will be able to. Some of it is reflective, some of it angry, some of it just appreciative and some of it will probably come across as a little bitter as well and potentially even contradictory. That's raw emotion for you. The trap that is football fandom, the emotional hold that it has over every day life. It's crazy to think how little I've been able to concentrate on anything else over the past 48 hours. It's all consuming, and despite knowing this day was coming, you just have to see it unfold to truly believe it. I honestly feeling totally deflated right now.

Despite having an exciting new era, with a manager that seems perfect for this club, I just have lost so much interest going in to the season. Our talismanic legend being allowed to leave the day before we kick off is criminal in my opinion. To allow him to take a full part in pre season, to prepare with the squad knowing that he'd likely leave is shambolic planning. Regardless of what Postecoglou may say about this not changing things, there can be no question that this will have an impact on the squad and the early part of the season. Both with morale but also adapting to a new style of play, without the fall back of a world-class striker to score another 30 league goals. I think it's going to be rough to start the year, and while Kane is irreplaceable like for like, our options up front do not inspire anyone with any confidence. We're going from a guaranteed 20+ goals a season from a striker, to one that has never got more than 13 in the league. 

But I guess I'll get the easy bit out the way first and why this is just so painful. It goes without saying that Kane is going to be a huge loss to this football club. Our all time record goalscorer, the greatest Spurs player of my lifetime, one of our all time greats, if not the best ever. He's been at the club for 19 years, he's given us so much, so many great moments, so many special goals. His record in North London Derbies is unmatched. The passion he's shown playing and scoring in those games, he got it. The Pochettino era where he and the team made me fall in love with football again. It will always be a huge regret that they never got over the line, but that doesn't diminish from how special they were to watch. Watching Kane captain England always makes you feel proud. Everyone dreams of having someone from their academy break through and become one of the best players in the world, captaining their country, and we have lived it. I was there for Kane's first goal for England and it's still one of my favourite ever moments. I just don't know if we will ever seen someone like Kane again at Spurs. The way he's become one of the most well-rounded footballers, through hard work, dedication and application of his natural talent is an example for all to follow. Of course this club has had world-class footballers before, and we will do again. We've also been able to recover and move forward from that. But this one feels extra painful/special due to how long Kane has been here and the journey he's been on.

From Kane's perspective I just find it such an odd move. In some ways you could see he is doing the club a favour. Leaving now enabling them to get a big fee for him, rather than going on a free. However, moving to Germany at 30, when in a years time he can have his pick of whichever club he wants is fairly strange. I do not want to knock Bayern at all, of course they're an absolutely massive club, but the Bundesliga is uncompetitive, and they're winning that league whether Kane is with them or not. He gets to play Champions League football again, and have a chance to go far in it. But are they really going to beat Man City or Madrid? I doubt it. He's going to win trophies that really don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Nobody in England as a child dreams of winning the Bundesliga. Nobody's opinion of him as a striker and a player should change because he's got a couple of German trophies to his name. He's already become Tottenham's and England's record goal scorer, but the Premier League record is well and truly there for the taking for him. A record that is spoken about far more than any German trophy would be. He'd even have an outside chance of Greaves' record if he kept playing very late into his 30's. Yet he's thrown away that possibility. I can't wait to hear his comments when it's all confirmed.

The other part of this that stings is the support he's had from our fanbase, that has never truly felt appreciated and I think he may regret taking it for granted. Unlike other club legends he's never truly seemed to love us like he should or shown it in the way that someone like Heung-Min Son does. It's always seemed fairly calculated, fairly business led. Much like our chairman. No one will ever love and support Kane like Tottenham fans have for him. The most underappreciated and abused footballer in this country over a long period of time, where the only constant was how far we'd go to defend him and highlight just how good he really is. Small things that don't mean much but the mural, the tifo, the record-breaking celebrations, ways in which the club and the fans have been able celebrate him that he won't get anywhere else. If things go badly at Bayern (they won't), he certainly won't be getting the same backing from the fans. Of course, on the flip side, I do think a certain portion of our fanbase have underappreciated him too. He should have had far more player of the season awards then he has. But maybe that's linked to my earlier point about the connection with the fans. Something has always find a little bit lacking, and the Man City/Gary Neville debacle certainly added to that for many.

Now this is where I get angry though, and where the club has totally failed the fans and Kane again.

Levy's managed to squeeze £100 million rising to £120 million out of Bayern. From a business perspective he's going to be delighted to get so much for a thirty year old with one year left on his deal. But that's where he just doesn't get it. This club is run as a business. It's not run as a football club. Levy just doesn't understand football, and doesn't truly care about winning. Already this summer we've seen our 'rivals' spend vasts amounts of money on key players to improve their teams. Yet we've missed out on two of our top targets penny pinching and settled for the next on the list. This 'game-changing' stadium that we were promised would allow us to compete has done nothing of the sort. It's just making bigger profits for the ownership and yet we see the same old lack of proper investment in the playing staff. I think it's pretty clear we've already spent most of the Kane money and there won't be a big spending spree coming now. We don't have the ambition like so many around us. We squandered the best opportunity we ever had. I don't want to go over old ground, everybody knows about the lack of investment during the Poch years, but that is where we've failed Kane and what has been so upsetting about the whole ordeal. I truly believe he wanted to succeed at this club. And that was always priority number one. And yet our ambition has not matched his for years now. I have always been on the side of pro Levy but no more can I be. This is the final straw for me.

When all is said and done, and the dust has settled, Kane is going down as one of the all time greats of this wonderful football club. Going to Bayern means we don't have to see him every week, don't have to see him scoring against us, and can appreciate him for the player he is. That will make it easier. But right now I'm crushed, better people than I are looking at the positives and trying to see a brighter future, but I can't do that currently. 

Thanks Harry for all the goals, you're going to be missed greatly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[OrangeKhrush]

13 minutes ago, Storts said:

While I've been preparing for this day for a while, it doesn't get any easier to deal with.

I have so many different strands of thought running through my head and I'm going to try and get it written down as I'm hoping it's going to make things easier but I can't make any promises that I will be able to. Some of it is reflective, some of it angry, some of it just appreciative and some of it will probably come across as a little bitter as well and potentially even contradictory. That's raw emotion for you. The trap that is football fandom, the emotional hold that it has over every day life. It's crazy to think how little I've been able to concentrate on anything else over the past 48 hours. It's all consuming, and despite knowing this day was coming, you just have to see it unfold to truly believe it. I honestly feeling totally deflated right now.

Despite having an exciting new era, with a manager that seems perfect for this club, I just have lost so much interest going in to the season. Our talismanic legend being allowed to leave the day before we kick off is criminal in my opinion. To allow him to take a full part in pre season, to prepare with the squad knowing that he'd likely leave is shambolic planning. Regardless of what Postecoglou may say about this not changing things, there can be no question that this will have an impact on the squad and the early part of the season. Both with morale but also adapting to a new style of play, without the fall back of a world-class striker to score another 30 league goals. I think it's going to be rough to start the year, and while Kane is irreplaceable like for like, our options up front do not inspire anyone with any confidence. We're going from a guaranteed 20+ goals a season from a striker, to one that has never got more than 13 in the league. 

But I guess I'll get the easy bit out the way first and why this is just so painful. It goes without saying that Kane is going to be a huge loss to this football club. Our all time record goalscorer, the greatest Spurs player of my lifetime, one of our all time greats, if not the best ever. He's been at the club for 19 years, he's given us so much, so many great moments, so many special goals. His record in North London Derbies is unmatched. The passion he's shown playing and scoring in those games, he got it. The Pochettino era where he and the team made me fall in love with football again. It will always be a huge regret that they never got over the line, but that doesn't diminish from how special they were to watch. Watching Kane captain England always makes you feel proud. Everyone dreams of having someone from their academy break through and become one of the best players in the world, captaining their country, and we have lived it. I was there for Kane's first goal for England and it's still one of my favourite ever moments. I just don't know if we will ever seen someone like Kane again at Spurs. The way he's become one of the most well-rounded footballers, through hard work, dedication and application of his natural talent is an example for all to follow. Of course this club has had world-class footballers before, and we will do again. We've also been able to recover and move forward from that. But this one feels extra painful/special due to how long Kane has been here and the journey he's been on.

From Kane's perspective I just find it such an odd move. In some ways you could see he is doing the club a favour. Leaving now enabling them to get a big fee for him, rather than going on a free. However, moving to Germany at 30, when in a years time he can have his pick of whichever club he wants is fairly strange. I do not want to knock Bayern at all, of course they're an absolutely massive club, but the Bundesliga is uncompetitive, and they're winning that league whether Kane is with them or not. He gets to play Champions League football again, and have a chance to go far in it. But are they really going to beat Man City or Madrid? I doubt it. He's going to win trophies that really don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Nobody in England as a child dreams of winning the Bundesliga. Nobody's opinion of him as a striker and a player should change because he's got a couple of German trophies to his name. He's already become Tottenham's and England's record goal scorer, but the Premier League record is well and truly there for the taking for him. A record that is spoken about far more than any German trophy would be. He'd even have an outside chance of Greaves' record if he kept playing very late into his 30's. Yet he's thrown away that possibility. I can't wait to hear his comments when it's all confirmed.

The other part of this that stings is the support he's had from our fanbase, that has never truly felt appreciated and I think he may regret taking it for granted. Unlike other club legends he's never truly seemed to love us like he should or shown it in the way that someone like Heung-Min Son does. It's always seemed fairly calculated, fairly business led. Much like our chairman. No one will ever love and support Kane like Tottenham fans have for him. The most underappreciated and abused footballer in this country over a long period of time, where the only constant was how far we'd go to defend him and highlight just how good he really is. Small things that don't mean much but the mural, the tifo, the record-breaking celebrations, ways in which the club and the fans have been able celebrate him that he won't get anywhere else. If things go badly at Bayern (they won't), he certainly won't be getting the same backing from the fans. Of course, on the flip side, I do think a certain portion of our fanbase have underappreciated him too. He should have had far more player of the season awards then he has. But maybe that's linked to my earlier point about the connection with the fans. Something has always find a little bit lacking, and the Man City/Gary Neville debacle certainly added to that for many.

Now this is where I get angry though, and where the club has totally failed the fans and Kane again.

Levy's managed to squeeze £100 million rising to £120 million out of Bayern. From a business perspective he's going to be delighted to get so much for a thirty year old with one year left on his deal. But that's where he just doesn't get it. This club is run as a business. It's not run as a football club. Levy just doesn't understand football, and doesn't truly care about winning. Already this summer we've seen our 'rivals' spend vasts amounts of money on key players to improve their teams. Yet we've missed out on two of our top targets penny pinching and settled for the next on the list. This 'game-changing' stadium that we were promised would allow us to compete has done nothing of the sort. It's just making bigger profits for the ownership and yet we see the same old lack of proper investment in the playing staff. I think it's pretty clear we've already spent most of the Kane money and there won't be a big spending spree coming now. We don't have the ambition like so many around us. We squandered the best opportunity we ever had. I don't want to go over old ground, everybody knows about the lack of investment during the Poch years, but that is where we've failed Kane and what has been so upsetting about the whole ordeal. I truly believe he wanted to succeed at this club. And that was always priority number one. And yet our ambition has not matched his for years now. I have always been on the side of pro Levy but no more can I be. This is the final straw for me.

When all is said and done, and the dust has settled, Kane is going down as one of the all time greats of this wonderful football club. Going to Bayern means we don't have to see him every week, don't have to see him scoring against us, and can appreciate him for the player he is. That will make it easier. But right now I'm crushed, better people than I are looking at the positives and trying to see a brighter future, but I can't do that currently. 

Thanks Harry for all the goals, you're going to be missed greatly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've already gone through it with Shearer, you move on.  It's actually not that big a deal.

[Storts]

52 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said:

I've already gone through it with Shearer, you move on.  It's actually not that big a deal.

Shut up

[6666]

1 hour ago, Storts said:

While I've been preparing for this day for a while, it doesn't get any easier to deal with.

I have so many different strands of thought running through my head and I'm going to try and get it written down as I'm hoping it's going to make things easier but I can't make any promises that I will be able to. Some of it is reflective, some of it angry, some of it just appreciative and some of it will probably come across as a little bitter as well and potentially even contradictory. That's raw emotion for you. The trap that is football fandom, the emotional hold that it has over every day life. It's crazy to think how little I've been able to concentrate on anything else over the past 48 hours. It's all consuming, and despite knowing this day was coming, you just have to see it unfold to truly believe it. I honestly feeling totally deflated right now.

Despite having an exciting new era, with a manager that seems perfect for this club, I just have lost so much interest going in to the season. Our talismanic legend being allowed to leave the day before we kick off is criminal in my opinion. To allow him to take a full part in pre season, to prepare with the squad knowing that he'd likely leave is shambolic planning. Regardless of what Postecoglou may say about this not changing things, there can be no question that this will have an impact on the squad and the early part of the season. Both with morale but also adapting to a new style of play, without the fall back of a world-class striker to score another 30 league goals. I think it's going to be rough to start the year, and while Kane is irreplaceable like for like, our options up front do not inspire anyone with any confidence. We're going from a guaranteed 20+ goals a season from a striker, to one that has never got more than 13 in the league. 

But I guess I'll get the easy bit out the way first and why this is just so painful. It goes without saying that Kane is going to be a huge loss to this football club. Our all time record goalscorer, the greatest Spurs player of my lifetime, one of our all time greats, if not the best ever. He's been at the club for 19 years, he's given us so much, so many great moments, so many special goals. His record in North London Derbies is unmatched. The passion he's shown playing and scoring in those games, he got it. The Pochettino era where he and the team made me fall in love with football again. It will always be a huge regret that they never got over the line, but that doesn't diminish from how special they were to watch. Watching Kane captain England always makes you feel proud. Everyone dreams of having someone from their academy break through and become one of the best players in the world, captaining their country, and we have lived it. I was there for Kane's first goal for England and it's still one of my favourite ever moments. I just don't know if we will ever seen someone like Kane again at Spurs. The way he's become one of the most well-rounded footballers, through hard work, dedication and application of his natural talent is an example for all to follow. Of course this club has had world-class footballers before, and we will do again. We've also been able to recover and move forward from that. But this one feels extra painful/special due to how long Kane has been here and the journey he's been on.

From Kane's perspective I just find it such an odd move. In some ways you could see he is doing the club a favour. Leaving now enabling them to get a big fee for him, rather than going on a free. However, moving to Germany at 30, when in a years time he can have his pick of whichever club he wants is fairly strange. I do not want to knock Bayern at all, of course they're an absolutely massive club, but the Bundesliga is uncompetitive, and they're winning that league whether Kane is with them or not. He gets to play Champions League football again, and have a chance to go far in it. But are they really going to beat Man City or Madrid? I doubt it. He's going to win trophies that really don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Nobody in England as a child dreams of winning the Bundesliga. Nobody's opinion of him as a striker and a player should change because he's got a couple of German trophies to his name. He's already become Tottenham's and England's record goal scorer, but the Premier League record is well and truly there for the taking for him. A record that is spoken about far more than any German trophy would be. He'd even have an outside chance of Greaves' record if he kept playing very late into his 30's. Yet he's thrown away that possibility. I can't wait to hear his comments when it's all confirmed.

The other part of this that stings is the support he's had from our fanbase, that has never truly felt appreciated and I think he may regret taking it for granted. Unlike other club legends he's never truly seemed to love us like he should or shown it in the way that someone like Heung-Min Son does. It's always seemed fairly calculated, fairly business led. Much like our chairman. No one will ever love and support Kane like Tottenham fans have for him. The most underappreciated and abused footballer in this country over a long period of time, where the only constant was how far we'd go to defend him and highlight just how good he really is. Small things that don't mean much but the mural, the tifo, the record-breaking celebrations, ways in which the club and the fans have been able celebrate him that he won't get anywhere else. If things go badly at Bayern (they won't), he certainly won't be getting the same backing from the fans. Of course, on the flip side, I do think a certain portion of our fanbase have underappreciated him too. He should have had far more player of the season awards then he has. But maybe that's linked to my earlier point about the connection with the fans. Something has always find a little bit lacking, and the Man City/Gary Neville debacle certainly added to that for many.

Now this is where I get angry though, and where the club has totally failed the fans and Kane again.

Levy's managed to squeeze £100 million rising to £120 million out of Bayern. From a business perspective he's going to be delighted to get so much for a thirty year old with one year left on his deal. But that's where he just doesn't get it. This club is run as a business. It's not run as a football club. Levy just doesn't understand football, and doesn't truly care about winning. Already this summer we've seen our 'rivals' spend vasts amounts of money on key players to improve their teams. Yet we've missed out on two of our top targets penny pinching and settled for the next on the list. This 'game-changing' stadium that we were promised would allow us to compete has done nothing of the sort. It's just making bigger profits for the ownership and yet we see the same old lack of proper investment in the playing staff. I think it's pretty clear we've already spent most of the Kane money and there won't be a big spending spree coming now. We don't have the ambition like so many around us. We squandered the best opportunity we ever had. I don't want to go over old ground, everybody knows about the lack of investment during the Poch years, but that is where we've failed Kane and what has been so upsetting about the whole ordeal. I truly believe he wanted to succeed at this club. And that was always priority number one. And yet our ambition has not matched his for years now. I have always been on the side of pro Levy but no more can I be. This is the final straw for me.

When all is said and done, and the dust has settled, Kane is going down as one of the all time greats of this wonderful football club. Going to Bayern means we don't have to see him every week, don't have to see him scoring against us, and can appreciate him for the player he is. That will make it easier. But right now I'm crushed, better people than I are looking at the positives and trying to see a brighter future, but I can't do that currently. 

Thanks Harry for all the goals, you're going to be missed greatly.

He did well at yours but he's finally gonna get his dream to play in red.

[Cicero]

1 hour ago, Storts said:

While I've been preparing for this day for a while, it doesn't get any easier to deal with.

I have so many different strands of thought running through my head and I'm going to try and get it written down as I'm hoping it's going to make things easier but I can't make any promises that I will be able to. Some of it is reflective, some of it angry, some of it just appreciative and some of it will probably come across as a little bitter as well and potentially even contradictory. That's raw emotion for you. The trap that is football fandom, the emotional hold that it has over every day life. It's crazy to think how little I've been able to concentrate on anything else over the past 48 hours. It's all consuming, and despite knowing this day was coming, you just have to see it unfold to truly believe it. I honestly feeling totally deflated right now.

Despite having an exciting new era, with a manager that seems perfect for this club, I just have lost so much interest going in to the season. Our talismanic legend being allowed to leave the day before we kick off is criminal in my opinion. To allow him to take a full part in pre season, to prepare with the squad knowing that he'd likely leave is shambolic planning. Regardless of what Postecoglou may say about this not changing things, there can be no question that this will have an impact on the squad and the early part of the season. Both with morale but also adapting to a new style of play, without the fall back of a world-class striker to score another 30 league goals. I think it's going to be rough to start the year, and while Kane is irreplaceable like for like, our options up front do not inspire anyone with any confidence. We're going from a guaranteed 20+ goals a season from a striker, to one that has never got more than 13 in the league. 

But I guess I'll get the easy bit out the way first and why this is just so painful. It goes without saying that Kane is going to be a huge loss to this football club. Our all time record goalscorer, the greatest Spurs player of my lifetime, one of our all time greats, if not the best ever. He's been at the club for 19 years, he's given us so much, so many great moments, so many special goals. His record in North London Derbies is unmatched. The passion he's shown playing and scoring in those games, he got it. The Pochettino era where he and the team made me fall in love with football again. It will always be a huge regret that they never got over the line, but that doesn't diminish from how special they were to watch. Watching Kane captain England always makes you feel proud. Everyone dreams of having someone from their academy break through and become one of the best players in the world, captaining their country, and we have lived it. I was there for Kane's first goal for England and it's still one of my favourite ever moments. I just don't know if we will ever seen someone like Kane again at Spurs. The way he's become one of the most well-rounded footballers, through hard work, dedication and application of his natural talent is an example for all to follow. Of course this club has had world-class footballers before, and we will do again. We've also been able to recover and move forward from that. But this one feels extra painful/special due to how long Kane has been here and the journey he's been on.

From Kane's perspective I just find it such an odd move. In some ways you could see he is doing the club a favour. Leaving now enabling them to get a big fee for him, rather than going on a free. However, moving to Germany at 30, when in a years time he can have his pick of whichever club he wants is fairly strange. I do not want to knock Bayern at all, of course they're an absolutely massive club, but the Bundesliga is uncompetitive, and they're winning that league whether Kane is with them or not. He gets to play Champions League football again, and have a chance to go far in it. But are they really going to beat Man City or Madrid? I doubt it. He's going to win trophies that really don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Nobody in England as a child dreams of winning the Bundesliga. Nobody's opinion of him as a striker and a player should change because he's got a couple of German trophies to his name. He's already become Tottenham's and England's record goal scorer, but the Premier League record is well and truly there for the taking for him. A record that is spoken about far more than any German trophy would be. He'd even have an outside chance of Greaves' record if he kept playing very late into his 30's. Yet he's thrown away that possibility. I can't wait to hear his comments when it's all confirmed.

The other part of this that stings is the support he's had from our fanbase, that has never truly felt appreciated and I think he may regret taking it for granted. Unlike other club legends he's never truly seemed to love us like he should or shown it in the way that someone like Heung-Min Son does. It's always seemed fairly calculated, fairly business led. Much like our chairman. No one will ever love and support Kane like Tottenham fans have for him. The most underappreciated and abused footballer in this country over a long period of time, where the only constant was how far we'd go to defend him and highlight just how good he really is. Small things that don't mean much but the mural, the tifo, the record-breaking celebrations, ways in which the club and the fans have been able celebrate him that he won't get anywhere else. If things go badly at Bayern (they won't), he certainly won't be getting the same backing from the fans. Of course, on the flip side, I do think a certain portion of our fanbase have underappreciated him too. He should have had far more player of the season awards then he has. But maybe that's linked to my earlier point about the connection with the fans. Something has always find a little bit lacking, and the Man City/Gary Neville debacle certainly added to that for many.

Now this is where I get angry though, and where the club has totally failed the fans and Kane again.

Levy's managed to squeeze £100 million rising to £120 million out of Bayern. From a business perspective he's going to be delighted to get so much for a thirty year old with one year left on his deal. But that's where he just doesn't get it. This club is run as a business. It's not run as a football club. Levy just doesn't understand football, and doesn't truly care about winning. Already this summer we've seen our 'rivals' spend vasts amounts of money on key players to improve their teams. Yet we've missed out on two of our top targets penny pinching and settled for the next on the list. This 'game-changing' stadium that we were promised would allow us to compete has done nothing of the sort. It's just making bigger profits for the ownership and yet we see the same old lack of proper investment in the playing staff. I think it's pretty clear we've already spent most of the Kane money and there won't be a big spending spree coming now. We don't have the ambition like so many around us. We squandered the best opportunity we ever had. I don't want to go over old ground, everybody knows about the lack of investment during the Poch years, but that is where we've failed Kane and what has been so upsetting about the whole ordeal. I truly believe he wanted to succeed at this club. And that was always priority number one. And yet our ambition has not matched his for years now. I have always been on the side of pro Levy but no more can I be. This is the final straw for me.

When all is said and done, and the dust has settled, Kane is going down as one of the all time greats of this wonderful football club. Going to Bayern means we don't have to see him every week, don't have to see him scoring against us, and can appreciate him for the player he is. That will make it easier. But right now I'm crushed, better people than I are looking at the positives and trying to see a brighter future, but I can't do that currently. 

Thanks Harry for all the goals, you're going to be missed greatly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

tl;dr version would be appreciated. 

[Fusion]

3 minutes ago, Cicero said:

tl;dr version would be appreciated. 

Fuck Levy.

[JoshBRFC+]

1 hour ago, Storts said:

While I've been preparing for this day for a while, it doesn't get any easier to deal with.

I have so many different strands of thought running through my head and I'm going to try and get it written down as I'm hoping it's going to make things easier but I can't make any promises that I will be able to. Some of it is reflective, some of it angry, some of it just appreciative and some of it will probably come across as a little bitter as well and potentially even contradictory. That's raw emotion for you. The trap that is football fandom, the emotional hold that it has over every day life. It's crazy to think how little I've been able to concentrate on anything else over the past 48 hours. It's all consuming, and despite knowing this day was coming, you just have to see it unfold to truly believe it. I honestly feeling totally deflated right now.

Despite having an exciting new era, with a manager that seems perfect for this club, I just have lost so much interest going in to the season. Our talismanic legend being allowed to leave the day before we kick off is criminal in my opinion. To allow him to take a full part in pre season, to prepare with the squad knowing that he'd likely leave is shambolic planning. Regardless of what Postecoglou may say about this not changing things, there can be no question that this will have an impact on the squad and the early part of the season. Both with morale but also adapting to a new style of play, without the fall back of a world-class striker to score another 30 league goals. I think it's going to be rough to start the year, and while Kane is irreplaceable like for like, our options up front do not inspire anyone with any confidence. We're going from a guaranteed 20+ goals a season from a striker, to one that has never got more than 13 in the league. 

But I guess I'll get the easy bit out the way first and why this is just so painful. It goes without saying that Kane is going to be a huge loss to this football club. Our all time record goalscorer, the greatest Spurs player of my lifetime, one of our all time greats, if not the best ever. He's been at the club for 19 years, he's given us so much, so many great moments, so many special goals. His record in North London Derbies is unmatched. The passion he's shown playing and scoring in those games, he got it. The Pochettino era where he and the team made me fall in love with football again. It will always be a huge regret that they never got over the line, but that doesn't diminish from how special they were to watch. Watching Kane captain England always makes you feel proud. Everyone dreams of having someone from their academy break through and become one of the best players in the world, captaining their country, and we have lived it. I was there for Kane's first goal for England and it's still one of my favourite ever moments. I just don't know if we will ever seen someone like Kane again at Spurs. The way he's become one of the most well-rounded footballers, through hard work, dedication and application of his natural talent is an example for all to follow. Of course this club has had world-class footballers before, and we will do again. We've also been able to recover and move forward from that. But this one feels extra painful/special due to how long Kane has been here and the journey he's been on.

From Kane's perspective I just find it such an odd move. In some ways you could see he is doing the club a favour. Leaving now enabling them to get a big fee for him, rather than going on a free. However, moving to Germany at 30, when in a years time he can have his pick of whichever club he wants is fairly strange. I do not want to knock Bayern at all, of course they're an absolutely massive club, but the Bundesliga is uncompetitive, and they're winning that league whether Kane is with them or not. He gets to play Champions League football again, and have a chance to go far in it. But are they really going to beat Man City or Madrid? I doubt it. He's going to win trophies that really don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Nobody in England as a child dreams of winning the Bundesliga. Nobody's opinion of him as a striker and a player should change because he's got a couple of German trophies to his name. He's already become Tottenham's and England's record goal scorer, but the Premier League record is well and truly there for the taking for him. A record that is spoken about far more than any German trophy would be. He'd even have an outside chance of Greaves' record if he kept playing very late into his 30's. Yet he's thrown away that possibility. I can't wait to hear his comments when it's all confirmed.

The other part of this that stings is the support he's had from our fanbase, that has never truly felt appreciated and I think he may regret taking it for granted. Unlike other club legends he's never truly seemed to love us like he should or shown it in the way that someone like Heung-Min Son does. It's always seemed fairly calculated, fairly business led. Much like our chairman. No one will ever love and support Kane like Tottenham fans have for him. The most underappreciated and abused footballer in this country over a long period of time, where the only constant was how far we'd go to defend him and highlight just how good he really is. Small things that don't mean much but the mural, the tifo, the record-breaking celebrations, ways in which the club and the fans have been able celebrate him that he won't get anywhere else. If things go badly at Bayern (they won't), he certainly won't be getting the same backing from the fans. Of course, on the flip side, I do think a certain portion of our fanbase have underappreciated him too. He should have had far more player of the season awards then he has. But maybe that's linked to my earlier point about the connection with the fans. Something has always find a little bit lacking, and the Man City/Gary Neville debacle certainly added to that for many.

Now this is where I get angry though, and where the club has totally failed the fans and Kane again.

Levy's managed to squeeze £100 million rising to £120 million out of Bayern. From a business perspective he's going to be delighted to get so much for a thirty year old with one year left on his deal. But that's where he just doesn't get it. This club is run as a business. It's not run as a football club. Levy just doesn't understand football, and doesn't truly care about winning. Already this summer we've seen our 'rivals' spend vasts amounts of money on key players to improve their teams. Yet we've missed out on two of our top targets penny pinching and settled for the next on the list. This 'game-changing' stadium that we were promised would allow us to compete has done nothing of the sort. It's just making bigger profits for the ownership and yet we see the same old lack of proper investment in the playing staff. I think it's pretty clear we've already spent most of the Kane money and there won't be a big spending spree coming now. We don't have the ambition like so many around us. We squandered the best opportunity we ever had. I don't want to go over old ground, everybody knows about the lack of investment during the Poch years, but that is where we've failed Kane and what has been so upsetting about the whole ordeal. I truly believe he wanted to succeed at this club. And that was always priority number one. And yet our ambition has not matched his for years now. I have always been on the side of pro Levy but no more can I be. This is the final straw for me.

When all is said and done, and the dust has settled, Kane is going down as one of the all time greats of this wonderful football club. Going to Bayern means we don't have to see him every week, don't have to see him scoring against us, and can appreciate him for the player he is. That will make it easier. But right now I'm crushed, better people than I are looking at the positives and trying to see a brighter future, but I can't do that currently. 

Thanks Harry for all the goals, you're going to be missed greatly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good post.
 

Fascinating hearing the raw emotions from someone whose opinion I respect and clearly is well within his right to speak on the subject. Also fair play for admitting at the beginning that what you’re about to say may seem bitter and contradictory, refreshing to see someone admit that there may be flaws in their perspective, as opposed to the generic arrogant perspective you’d expect in this scenario. 

The only thing I really disagree on is the bit about nobody’s opinion on him changing because he’s going to win in Germany. Yeah they’ll win the league without him, but he is the type of player who can be the difference in winning the champions league(yes they can beat city and Madrid with Kane - much less of a chance without him).

From a legacy perspective, when we or him look back on his career - winning trophies and settings records with the best team in Germany and one of the best teams in the world, will only add to his fantastic career, and I’d argue it does for more his legacy than winning zero trophies and just setting the Premier league goal scoring record.

 

I also think he will return to the Premier League after he’s won the Champions League and multiple other trophies, in his mid thirties to try and break that coveted record of Shearers. 

Edited August 11, 2023 by JoshBRFC

[Stan]

2 hours ago, Storts said:

While I've been preparing for this day for a while, it doesn't get any easier to deal with.

I have so many different strands of thought running through my head and I'm going to try and get it written down as I'm hoping it's going to make things easier but I can't make any promises that I will be able to. Some of it is reflective, some of it angry, some of it just appreciative and some of it will probably come across as a little bitter as well and potentially even contradictory. That's raw emotion for you. The trap that is football fandom, the emotional hold that it has over every day life. It's crazy to think how little I've been able to concentrate on anything else over the past 48 hours. It's all consuming, and despite knowing this day was coming, you just have to see it unfold to truly believe it. I honestly feeling totally deflated right now.

Despite having an exciting new era, with a manager that seems perfect for this club, I just have lost so much interest going in to the season. Our talismanic legend being allowed to leave the day before we kick off is criminal in my opinion. To allow him to take a full part in pre season, to prepare with the squad knowing that he'd likely leave is shambolic planning. Regardless of what Postecoglou may say about this not changing things, there can be no question that this will have an impact on the squad and the early part of the season. Both with morale but also adapting to a new style of play, without the fall back of a world-class striker to score another 30 league goals. I think it's going to be rough to start the year, and while Kane is irreplaceable like for like, our options up front do not inspire anyone with any confidence. We're going from a guaranteed 20+ goals a season from a striker, to one that has never got more than 13 in the league. 

But I guess I'll get the easy bit out the way first and why this is just so painful. It goes without saying that Kane is going to be a huge loss to this football club. Our all time record goalscorer, the greatest Spurs player of my lifetime, one of our all time greats, if not the best ever. He's been at the club for 19 years, he's given us so much, so many great moments, so many special goals. His record in North London Derbies is unmatched. The passion he's shown playing and scoring in those games, he got it. The Pochettino era where he and the team made me fall in love with football again. It will always be a huge regret that they never got over the line, but that doesn't diminish from how special they were to watch. Watching Kane captain England always makes you feel proud. Everyone dreams of having someone from their academy break through and become one of the best players in the world, captaining their country, and we have lived it. I was there for Kane's first goal for England and it's still one of my favourite ever moments. I just don't know if we will ever seen someone like Kane again at Spurs. The way he's become one of the most well-rounded footballers, through hard work, dedication and application of his natural talent is an example for all to follow. Of course this club has had world-class footballers before, and we will do again. We've also been able to recover and move forward from that. But this one feels extra painful/special due to how long Kane has been here and the journey he's been on.

From Kane's perspective I just find it such an odd move. In some ways you could see he is doing the club a favour. Leaving now enabling them to get a big fee for him, rather than going on a free. However, moving to Germany at 30, when in a years time he can have his pick of whichever club he wants is fairly strange. I do not want to knock Bayern at all, of course they're an absolutely massive club, but the Bundesliga is uncompetitive, and they're winning that league whether Kane is with them or not. He gets to play Champions League football again, and have a chance to go far in it. But are they really going to beat Man City or Madrid? I doubt it. He's going to win trophies that really don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Nobody in England as a child dreams of winning the Bundesliga. Nobody's opinion of him as a striker and a player should change because he's got a couple of German trophies to his name. He's already become Tottenham's and England's record goal scorer, but the Premier League record is well and truly there for the taking for him. A record that is spoken about far more than any German trophy would be. He'd even have an outside chance of Greaves' record if he kept playing very late into his 30's. Yet he's thrown away that possibility. I can't wait to hear his comments when it's all confirmed.

The other part of this that stings is the support he's had from our fanbase, that has never truly felt appreciated and I think he may regret taking it for granted. Unlike other club legends he's never truly seemed to love us like he should or shown it in the way that someone like Heung-Min Son does. It's always seemed fairly calculated, fairly business led. Much like our chairman. No one will ever love and support Kane like Tottenham fans have for him. The most underappreciated and abused footballer in this country over a long period of time, where the only constant was how far we'd go to defend him and highlight just how good he really is. Small things that don't mean much but the mural, the tifo, the record-breaking celebrations, ways in which the club and the fans have been able celebrate him that he won't get anywhere else. If things go badly at Bayern (they won't), he certainly won't be getting the same backing from the fans. Of course, on the flip side, I do think a certain portion of our fanbase have underappreciated him too. He should have had far more player of the season awards then he has. But maybe that's linked to my earlier point about the connection with the fans. Something has always find a little bit lacking, and the Man City/Gary Neville debacle certainly added to that for many.

Now this is where I get angry though, and where the club has totally failed the fans and Kane again.

Levy's managed to squeeze £100 million rising to £120 million out of Bayern. From a business perspective he's going to be delighted to get so much for a thirty year old with one year left on his deal. But that's where he just doesn't get it. This club is run as a business. It's not run as a football club. Levy just doesn't understand football, and doesn't truly care about winning. Already this summer we've seen our 'rivals' spend vasts amounts of money on key players to improve their teams. Yet we've missed out on two of our top targets penny pinching and settled for the next on the list. This 'game-changing' stadium that we were promised would allow us to compete has done nothing of the sort. It's just making bigger profits for the ownership and yet we see the same old lack of proper investment in the playing staff. I think it's pretty clear we've already spent most of the Kane money and there won't be a big spending spree coming now. We don't have the ambition like so many around us. We squandered the best opportunity we ever had. I don't want to go over old ground, everybody knows about the lack of investment during the Poch years, but that is where we've failed Kane and what has been so upsetting about the whole ordeal. I truly believe he wanted to succeed at this club. And that was always priority number one. And yet our ambition has not matched his for years now. I have always been on the side of pro Levy but no more can I be. This is the final straw for me.

When all is said and done, and the dust has settled, Kane is going down as one of the all time greats of this wonderful football club. Going to Bayern means we don't have to see him every week, don't have to see him scoring against us, and can appreciate him for the player he is. That will make it easier. But right now I'm crushed, better people than I are looking at the positives and trying to see a brighter future, but I can't do that currently. 

Thanks Harry for all the goals, you're going to be missed greatly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Spike]

The Bundesliga is not uncompetitive. Dortmund literally pushed Bayern to the limit last season, and Dortmund aren’t floated by a billion pound TV deal or questionable sugardaddy.

[Viva la FCB+]

Sounds all good to me.

 

[Stan]

1 minute ago, Viva la FCB said:

Sounds all good to me.

 

If it wasn't, would the deal collapse?

[Storts]

8 minutes ago, Spike said:

The Bundesliga is not uncompetitive. Dortmund literally pushed Bayern to the limit last season, and Dortmund aren’t floated by a billion pound TV deal or questionable sugardaddy.

Stop being so contrarian all the time. Bayern have won the league 11 years in a row. It’s uncompetitive 

[Spike]

Just now, Storts said:

Stop being so contrarian all the time. Bayern have won the league 11 years in a row. It’s uncompetitive 

You’re right, no team has ever had unprecedented success over long periods of time in England.

[Spike]

1-4 were closer in points in Germany than England last season. Bayern won on GD, sounds like a pretty competitive league tbh

[Viva la FCB+]

15 minutes ago, Spike said:

1-4 were closer in points in Germany than England last season. Bayern won on GD, sounds like a pretty competitive league tbh

I appreciate you fighting the good fight. Far too many comments about how the league title in Germany means next to nothing, just really is nonsense tbh.

[Spike]

1 minute ago, Viva la FCB said:

I appreciate you fighting the good fight. Far too many comments about how the league title in Germany means next to nothing, just really is nonsense tbh.

It’s a good league. I enjoy watching it, Bayern dominate obviously but they don’t stroll to victory like people make out. An incredibly well run club. 
 

Union Berlin put pressure on the top clubs, and they are a former DDR club with only partial of the funds historically available to the West. That’s amazing and shows how much fight for 1.Bundesliga there is.

[Rick]

The snobbery towards the Bundesliga only shows that those people don’t watch the fucking thing. their title race was much better than the one over here. 

[Storts]

47 minutes ago, Spike said:

You’re right, no team has ever had unprecedented success over long periods of time in England.

Anyone ever won 11 in a row?  

[OrangeKhrush]

biggest transfer of the summer

[Bluewolf]

4 minutes ago, Storts said:

Anyone ever won 11 in a row?  

Dinamo Zagreb

[Stan]

1 minute ago, Bluewolf said:

Dinamo Zagreb

in England?

[Bluewolf]

2 minutes ago, Stan said:

in England?

Obviously not.... I just saw the has anyone won 11 in a row, not the rest.. 

[Spike]

18 minutes ago, Storts said:

Anyone ever won 11 in a row?  

Spurs

[Spike]

If anyone thinks that historical quantity of winners  is indicative of a league’s competitiveness just reads the last page of a novel.

Serie A has had for different winners in a row. Sounds competitive right? Napoli won by 16 points

Edited August 11, 2023 by Spike