Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted July 30, 2017 Subscriber Posted July 30, 2017 Barcelona's dodgy dealings in the past aren't directly related to this but it is the height of irony that Barca and their disciples are crying about this after the circumstances in which Neymar joined in the first place. But no, Barcelona are "special" and "more than a football club" and blah blah blah so they must never have done anything dodgy or dicked anyone over in circumstances where it suited them.
SirBalon Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 41 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: Barcelona's dodgy dealings in the past aren't directly related to this but it is the height of irony that Barca and their disciples are crying about this after the circumstances in which Neymar joined in the first place. But no, Barcelona are "special" and "more than a football club" and blah blah blah so they must never have done anything dodgy or dicked anyone over in circumstances where it suited them. If you want to open a thread about Barcelona being dodgy, their apparent dodgy fans and anything else you can muster, then by all means do so mate. We can all join in! But in this case it has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with any of that. Plus the case revolving how he arrived should be understood properly before the club itself as an entity is questioned.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted July 30, 2017 Subscriber Posted July 30, 2017 1 hour ago, SirBalon said: If you want to open a thread about Barcelona being dodgy, their apparent dodgy fans and anything else you can muster, then by all means do so mate. We can all join in! But in this case it has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with any of that. Plus the case revolving how he arrived should be understood properly before the club itself as an entity is questioned. I'm not arguing with you, I'm certainly not exonerating Neymar and I'm not trying to paint an evil picture of Barcelona. It's just pathetic how the footballing hive mind frequently whitewashes Barcelona while similar "mishaps" are held against certain other clubs until kingdom come and as someone brought it up I felt I'd comment on it too.
Danny Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Any club that participates in the tapping up Barce do and have their players do deserves little sympathy over something like this.
SirBalon Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Neymar's stratospheric contract ready to sign at PSG It was always going to take something special to prize Neymar away from Barça, more so going from LaLiga to Ligue1, from FC Barcelona to Paris Saint-Germain. Neymar Jr will now be the highest paid footballer on the planet. But it doesn't end there because even that wasn't enough for Neymar to say yes to the move... On the contract he's been offered a series of commercial of commercial deals that will see Neymar continue to earn way after his footballing days are over with some of France's biggest names in the business. Negotiations have been complicated, but have been closed for various days now. It's been almost a week since Neymar made up his mind to go to PSG and it's only the drawing up of the final details in the contract and how PSG were going to finance everything behind the payment of the €222m, the taxes is will incur due to activating a buy-out clause and all the other details that come with such a massive investment. 6 different Parisian law firms have been used in the work of art that is the contract and the financing of a deal that will see the club pay a part of it and several other commercial entities connected to the club bare the weight of the rest. Only 3 months ago Neymar signed a new contract at FC Barcelona that would see him earn €15m a year clean... Now he'll be earning double that at €30m a year, with the added commercial contracts (this one is the one Neymar really wanted) and the Ambassador for the Qatar World Cup deal which is worth a whopping €60m a year. I don't even want to start doing the simple arithmetic it takes to give a final sum per annum. Oh... Nearly forgot! Neymar's father gets €60m out of this deal.
SirBalon Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Meanwhile while Neymar's father goes back to Barcelona to collect his €26m from FCB as honoraries from his son's renewal at Barça 3 months ago posts this Instagram a few hours ago... (Neymar Jr is in China doing his final publicity obligations for FC Barcelona) This is the level of scum of these people. Neymar's father is referring to the Biblical passage 'Ephesians 6:2-3' which reads... Lord because this is just. Sons, be obedient and honour your father and mother which is the first commandment with a promise. So that it may go well with you and enjoy long life on earth.
El Profesor Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 8 hours ago, SirBalon said: Meanwhile while Neymar's father goes back to Barcelona to collect his €26m from FCB as honoraries from his son's renewal at Barça 3 months ago posts this Instagram a few hours ago... (Neymar Jr is in China doing his final publicity obligations for FC Barcelona) This is the level of scum of these people. Neymar's father is referring to the Biblical passage 'Ephesians 6:2-3' which reads... Lord because this is just. Sons, be obedient and honour your father and mother which is the first commandment with a promise. So that it may go well with you and enjoy long life on earth. Unbelievable. Neymar Pai´s cynicism and dishonesty is something you don´t see everyday.
Carnivore Chris Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 There is no such thing as god but if there was then he surely wouldn't be looking down on scum like that. The world is full of famine, poverty and hunger, yet you have men like him leaching millions of pounds without actually offering anything to society. His son deserves to earn a high wage(although not the highest paid in the world) as he's actually doing something , he's a talented lad. However, his dad has no skills in anything at all and is simply leaching off his son's success. Horrible human being and I actually feel sorry for Neymar as it's his father who he takes after.
Inverted Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 It is typical of the religious: swindle and abuse on earth, seek absolution from above.
Administrator Batard Posted July 31, 2017 Administrator Posted July 31, 2017 An absolutely insane transfer
Carnivore Chris Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Just now, Cicero said: Hope Barca knock them out of Europe again. Barcelona/Chelsea this season. It's due.
Cicero Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 24 minutes ago, The Rebel CRS said: Barcelona/Chelsea this season. It's due. True. I'd like to see Messi vs Azpilicueta. Would be a great battle. Messi might score now that Drogba, Lampard, Terry, and Cech are all gone
Cicero Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, Teso dos Bichos said: @SirBalon you know what im referring to, but your denial wont let you admit the truth. Morata>>>>>Lukaku
True Blue Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 29 minutes ago, Cicero said: Morata>>>>>Lukaku Lukaku by far the better player he will score at least 50+ more goals than Morata and ease to a treble, the real one not the community shield one.
SirBalon Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 51 minutes ago, Teso dos Bichos said: @SirBalon you know what im referring to, but your denial wont let you admit the truth. I'm not denying absolutely anything. I'm saying it has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever with what's occurring here.
Spike Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 Pfft, when there is a gold vein at your doorstep, you mine that cunt till it is dry. Neymar Snr. has done nothing wrong, is it savoury? No. The father is just a product of the avalanche of greed that football became a long time ago.
Philippe Coutinho Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Arabs! Everyone wants to "do a Chelsea" innit. Following the Abramovich blueprint to CL success. They must just do it too. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4746810/Manchester-City-PSG-transformed-10-years.html
SirBalon Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Savvy Xavi said: Arabs! Everyone wants to "do a Chelsea" innit. Following the Abramovich blueprint to CL success. They must just do it too. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4746810/Manchester-City-PSG-transformed-10-years.html City have a million times more weight and standing in football than PSG. Paris Saint-Germain are a total fabrication!
SirBalon Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 Neymar's father furious with FC Barcelona Barça deposit the €26m honorary payments in an independent notary in Madrid While Neymar son went straight to China to do publicity obligations with one of FC Barcelona's sponsors (Italian casual fashion designer REPLAY JEANS) Neymar senior, returned directly to the city of Barcelona from the club's US tour so as to collect the €26m "honorary" fees yet to be paid (the total amount was €60m, of which €34 was paid on the day of signing) for the signing of Neymar's contract revision 3 months ago. The club haven't negated on paying the rest to the Neymars, but don't want to pay it straight away, so have deposited the total amount owed in an independent notary in Madrid. The reasons FC Barcelona have done this is because the club still hasn't received any official notification as to the future of Neymar and most importantly because the club feel Neymar hasn't completed the contract which is for 5 years. Barça want to pay a proportional part of the honorary deal in terms of 3 months completed of the new contract which would actually mean (if approved by an independent European arbitrary committee) that Neymar senior would actually have to return a large proportion of what he was paid as the first part of the honorary deal. Neymar senior came out of the FC Barcelona central offices in a furious mood and briefly spoke to a journalist at SPORT where he said that as far as he's concerned nothing was stipulated in the contract that they actually had to honour it and complete it... (emphasis on the word "honour" when returning to Barcelona to collect "honorary" moneys hahaha). Leaked info from inside the club says that FC Barcelona have no problem in paying those moneys which is why they've deposited them in the notary and are no longer moneys that belong to the club, but that they want to make sure that everything is done as stipulated and as far as the club is concerned their lawyers have stated and advised the moneys to be deposited into an independent notary because in their opinion a buy-out clause payment is a contradiction in the agreements of those payments even though buying the contract out is 100% legal. Just to add, and this is very important... Neymar senior arrived in Barcelona from the USA directing himself straight to the FC Barcelona offices where he went to tell them that his son hadn't completely made his decision whether to leave or not and that he needed a few more days. Barça didn't believe a single word of this because they have their own information on exactly what is going on with the deal between PSG and the Neymars. FC Barcelona know that the reason the deal between PSG and Neymar hasn't been officially announced is simply to do with the €26m honorary fees because they are meant to be paid this afternoon as stipulated in the renewal contract. Any official announcement would've ended the association between Neymar and FC Barcelona before the date stipulated.
Philippe Coutinho Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Savvy Xavi said: Arabs! Everyone wants to "do a Chelsea" innit. Following the Abramovich blueprint to CL success. They must just do it too. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4746810/Manchester-City-PSG-transformed-10-years.html They MIGHT just do it too, I meant!!
SirBalon Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Teso dos Bichos said: Damn arab money!!!! Whats the name of the team that had Qatar airways as their shirt sponsor (111 years without a sponsor until Rosell and his qatar ties change that).... even cules started a petition, to pressure the club to cut ties, 60,000 cule signatures were ignored because of greed! I agree 100%. The darkest point in the club's history. Thankfully the fans forced the issue in the end though.
SirBalon Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 One of Neymar's agents, Ribeiro Wagner (the one who tired his hardest to take Neymar to Real Madrid) has made a couple of Instagram posts today referring to Neymar's future and this one tells us more or less where the situation is destined no matter what his money grabbing father has tried so as to delay the situation so as to get paid €26m from Barça. It's the flight schedule which is supposedly telling us that Neymar's entourage is heading to Paris so as to finalise and sign the deal with PSG. All of that is of very little importance to me and I welcome it... My part is the continuance of a society, a culture that seems to see certain things in a particular manner. I have no idea how the Bible is taught in Latin America, but it seems to be in a whole different manner to the one I was shown in a Jesuit Roman Catholic school. It ends (just to comply with Neymar's father's posts) with GOD IN COMMAND, ALWAYS! What God, or any god or gods have to do in all of this or anything to do with the hoarding of money I have no idea. As far as I know this doesn't comply with theological teachings in the slightest. But maybe in Latin America they get taught something else and poverty is no excuse because poverty exists everywhere and those that head in a different direction tend to know they are doing this and they don't cite God just in case.
SirBalon Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 The LFP won't accept the buy-out clause payment from PSG LFP president Javier Tebas has told Paris Saint-Germain that in the case that they do actually try and pay Neymar's buy-out clause of €222m, the La Liga authority won't accept the payment. Javier Tebas claims that the league's highest authority would be acting against the best interest of the league and playing against the rules when they haven't had the go ahead from UEFA in the case (UEFA are studying it). Javier Tebas added that a club that makes only 20% of the annual earnings compared to Barcelona and Real Madrid it's impossible for them to make a signing of that magnitude without braking FFP rules and regulations where a club can't spend 30% over the annual takings. Barça and Real Madrid wouldn't be able to make such a signing which is why Real Madrid are stuttering on trying to sign Mbappé from Monaco, so how can PSG? We have told Real Madrid we cannot sanction that one off payment for a player without them selling first so as to not be party to breaking the rules. We hold the registrations for the league's players and we have to make sure everything is done by the books otherwise we are also subject to breaking the rules. Apparently the LFP already told PSG last season when they made an attempt to sign Neymar via the buy-out clause that the LFP wasn't authorised to take the said amount without proof that all financial factors are met and complied with. If UEFA authorises us to do this the we will which are the rules we all abide by. The reason clubs have broken FFP rules before is because of multiple signings and when the numbers were analysed by UEFA they then punished the club accordingly. In a signing of this magnitude with one player, it's a measure of having to show the numbers and PSG just don't have that financial power. They do via their owner, but that isn't how the rules work... It's the entity that matters here.
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