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2 minutes ago, LFCMadLad said:

No, I’m just trying to work out how I’m going to watch the Liverpool match and Peaky Blinders at the same time :dam:

don't watch the Liverpool match :D 

Seriously, watch Peaky Blinders on your phone? Or record it?

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Tbh this means for the first time in ages, I can see Everton actually putting up a fight in a derby in the league. And they'll probably stay up.

Obviously not a long term solution, but something to paper over the cracks of how this season's panned out for them.

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I think in Evertons case and in most football clubs, the board are too blame, it is their club they have the power to do what they want, Managers are only employees like players are but have less security regarding their job.    Something has seriously happened with Koeman and the players,  the loss also of a striker has been a bad miss but the same defence is still there minus an injured Coleman.    The balance is wrong also as is wrong with the players brought in,  3 or 4 midfielders all brought into the club that for me is Steve Walsh fault he is part of the player recruitment,  Koeman is too blame for the shambles of the team morale.

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Cannot see how even the most staunch Evertonian couldn't see this as anything other than a negative appointment. 

All this talk of Everton progressing and aiming for regular European finishes and a show of ambition by the new owner in the Summer, spending, I believe, in excess of £100m and Everton have plumped for Sam Allardyce? It just stinks of a lack of ambition from a club that only a few months ago where talking of regular European games at Goodison and the new ground. 

I don't see how this can be seen as anything but a poor appointment. Sam Allardyce is a safe manager, he'll set Everton up in a similar way and looking at his record in the Premier League, it's largely mid-table mediocrity and relegation dogfights.

Now this isn't a West Bromwich Albion, a Watford or a Crystal Palace, who you'd expect to be in a relegation battle or aiming for the dizzy heights of 13th and an FA Cup exit at the 4th Round in order to attain survival. This is Everton, a club that universally, you'd be expecting to be one of the sides aiming for a Europa League place, a team that is not quite at the level of the top five or six but the next best. 

If it's a six months deal, you can understand that but I have a feeling this is a longer deal and I can't get my head round it. 

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4 hours ago, RandoEFC said:

Justified to be fair. Sammy Lee is a former Red and it's not like he couldn't find an alternative.

You'd think Steven Gerrard or Suarez (or any other player that terrorised Everton on the pitch) were turning up from some of the reactions I've seen! xD But Sammy Lee? 

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2 minutes ago, LFCMike said:

You'd think Steven Gerrard or Suarez (or any other player that terrorised Everton on the pitch) were turning up from some of the reactions I've seen! xD But Sammy Lee? 

I wonder what the reaction was when they signed Peter Beardsley.

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Just now, Cannabis said:

Rumour has it he's signed a one and a half year deal. 

That's not so bad, for all this talk of lack of ambition. A short term deal is all that it's worth giving someone like Fat Sam. You know you're not going to get good football and you know you're not going to be making the steps up to regular European football and challenging for the top 4 - you're getting safety and stability.

It's obviously not an ambitious move going for a relegation-avoidance specialist. But at this point in the season, safety seems like a higher priority than bringing in a young manager into a high pressure situation and planning for the future. I'm sure Everton want to avoid promotion back to the top flight as part of their future plans.

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2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

That's not so bad, for all this talk of lack of ambition. A short term deal is all that it's worth giving someone like Fat Sam. You know you're not going to get good football and you know you're not going to be making the steps up to regular European football and challenging for the top 4 - you're getting safety and stability.

It's obviously not an ambitious move going for a relegation-avoidance specialist. But at this point in the season, safety seems like a higher priority than bringing in a young manager into a high pressure situation and planning for the future. I'm sure Everton want to avoid promotion back to the top flight as part of their future plans.

Why the fuck does a team like Everton need a bloke who can muster survival but little else? As I said above, this isn't West Brom, Palace or Bournemouth. 

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1 minute ago, Smiley Culture said:

Why the fuck does a team like Everton need a bloke who can muster survival but little else? As I said above, this isn't West Brom, Palace or Bournemouth. 

Because they are utter shite, one of the worst teams in the league, and if they carry on the way they are then relegation is a very realistic possibility?

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Just now, Smiley Culture said:

Why the fuck does a team like Everton need a bloke who can muster survival but little else? As I said above, this isn't West Brom, Palace or Bournemouth. 

Have you seen them this season? They're struggling with the basics.

I've seen Everton be shite, I'm a Liverpool fan that's been alive the last 30 years... this Everton side are playing as shite as they were at the end of the Walter Smith era, if not worse. They've spent a lot of money this summer, but I don't think they've got a well built squad - it simply lacks balance.

I can't imagine a young promising manager with progressive tactics doing well at a squad that's just very poorly built. It's a big ask in a high pressure situation. Granted, Moyes was a promising manager when he took the job after Walter Smith's reign.

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I don't see that squad being bad at all. Balance is something a coach has to acquire and then adjust in the transfer market according to how he wants the team to play. Allardyce will just get them playing primitive fight football because he's a crap manager. 

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19 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

Why the fuck does a team like Everton need a bloke who can muster survival but little else? As I said above, this isn't West Brom, Palace or Bournemouth. 

Because in the space of a few months the brains trust of Ronald Koeman and Steve Walsh have transformed us from a promising top 7 side into one of the worst teams in the league with a large helping hand from the most spineless set of players that I've ever seen. This is besides the point but it's amazing when you consider that on top of existing captain Jagielka we've signed Wales and Swansea captain Ashley Williams, Burnley captain Michael Keane, Ajax captain Davy Klaassen and Man Utd and England captain Wayne Rooney in the last 18 months.

It's not so much a lack of ambition. It's desperation born out of the position we find ourselves in. To be fair to the club they at least tried to look into Ancelotti, Simeone, Silva, Villas-Boas and Fonseca to varying degrees until having to settle for Fat Sam because we need someone.

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Moyes, Allardyce, Pardew and Hodgson all getting Premier League jobs this season is testament to the way owners of Premier League clubs think. A safety first approach lines the pockets of the owners but makes the league much weaker and a dire, dull, uninspiring watch to fans of those clubs and neutrals. Best league in the world xD

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