Abramovich granted Israeli citizenship

[Dr. Gonzo]

11 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

You can’t convert to Judaism unless a man marries a female Jew and even then the situation isn’t clear cut and only a third generation keeping to the rules from there on in would be seen as ok. I have Jewish family members and I know how this works where there are all sorts of connotations. 

The fact you can’t convert thouhg, for me personally adds more weight to their side of the three main Abrahamic religions. But that’s a whole different debate. 

Didn't Trump's daughter convert to Judaism when she married Kushner?

Don't worry all 3 Abrahamic religions are all total bullshit though.

[SirBalon]

3 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Didn't Trump's daughter convert to Judaism when she married Kushner?

Don't worry all 3 Abrahamic religions are all total bullshit though.

That’s fake in the eyes of real Jews. A woman cannot under any circumstances convert to Judaism. Like when Maddona went through one of her fads and converted to a strain of Judaism. 

[bozziovai]

4 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

That’s fake in the eyes of real Jews. A woman cannot under any circumstances convert to Judaism. Like when Maddona went through one of her fads and converted to a strain of Judaism. 

may i ask why this is so ??

let's say a woman read about judaism and fell in love with all it's aspect and want to convert, will she be limited to fanaticism rather than embracing the religion that she newly found ??

[Cicero]

4 minutes ago, bozziovai said:

may i ask why this is so ??

let's say a woman read about judaism and fell in love with all it's aspect and want to convert, will she be limited to fanaticism rather than embracing the religion that she newly found ??

I would assume because they identify jews not just as a religion, but a race. 

[Azeem]

7 minutes ago, Cicero said:

I would assume because they identify jews not just as a religion, but a race. 

Not just as any race but the elitest of mankind and the children of god race.

[bozziovai]

3 minutes ago, Devon Von Devon said:

Not just as any race but the elitest of mankind and the children of god race.

i know this will open a can of worms and i apologize in advance for opening this topic --- but is that the reason why hitler hated them so much, bcoz of that elitist stand ??

[Dr. Gonzo]

1 hour ago, Panna King said:

Yeah thats the problem when you have an Israeli passport its Visa free in 152 countries.   Most mega Rich are Jews also, not sure what Britain can do about Romans case but it is the British fault why there is Russisn gangsters in London as they needed their dirty money.

Every financial capital in every major country's banks know full well that money laundering for organised crime goes on. It's one of many of the banking industry's dirty little secrets that aren't really secret.

Banks don't care because it's business. Politicians can be swayed not to care pretty fucking easily as not effectively regulating banks involves doing literally nothing, or doing the bare minimum.

152 countries Visa free is fucking mental.

[nudge]

I don't think the 152 Visa-free figure is correct. World's most powerful passport is Singaporean, and their citizens can travel to 127 countries without a visa + visa on arrival in 37 countries.

EDIT: Yeah just checked, it's 105 countries without a visa + 37 countries visa on arrival for Israel, here's the full list: https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php

[Mel81x+]

12 minutes ago, nudge said:

I don't think the 152 Visa-free figure is correct. World's most powerful passport is Singaporean, and their citizens can travel to 127 countries without a visa + visa on arrival in 37 countries.

EDIT: Yeah just checked, it's 105 countries without a visa + 37 countries visa on arrival for Israel, here's the full list: https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php

Great link. Who would have thought that a South Korean Passport opened so many doors.

[Berserker]

32 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Every financial capital in every major country's banks know full well that money laundering for organised crime goes on. It's one of many of the banking industry's dirty little secrets that aren't really secret.

Banks don't care because it's business. Politicians can be swayed not to care pretty fucking easily as not effectively regulating banks involves doing literally nothing, or doing the bare minimum.

152 countries Visa free is fucking mental.

We have 150 if you count it that way or 108 without a visa and 42 on arrival in the correct formula that @nudge pointed out.

[Dr. Gonzo]

1 hour ago, nudge said:

I don't think the 152 Visa-free figure is correct. World's most powerful passport is Singaporean, and their citizens can travel to 127 countries without a visa + visa on arrival in 37 countries.

EDIT: Yeah just checked, it's 105 countries without a visa + 37 countries visa on arrival for Israel, here's the full list: https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php

That's still a lot. Meanwhile my passport is about to get more shit  

[Panna King]

1 hour ago, nudge said:

I don't think the 152 Visa-free figure is correct. World's most powerful passport is Singaporean, and their citizens can travel to 127 countries without a visa + visa on arrival in 37 countries.

EDIT: Yeah just checked, it's 105 countries without a visa + 37 countries visa on arrival for Israel, here's the full list: https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php

That has been changed since.

 

As of May 2018, Israeli citizens had visa-free or visa on arrival access to 161 countries and territories, Israel are also close to agreeing that Jews can travel freedom of moment soon to 38 countries including The United States, via the Visa Waiver Program. 

 

 

Also Israel nationals have been banned from 18 countries. 

 

[Panna King]

2 hours ago, bozziovai said:

i know this will open a can of worms and i apologize in advance for opening this topic --- but is that the reason why hitler hated them so much, bcoz of that elitist stand ??

I kind of quoted on about Hitler before, it is in his book Mein Kampf what he wrote in a German Jail while he was trying to gain power in Germany.   He believed the Jews crashed the stock market which started the great depression, it crippled Germany, they were one of the countries that suffered the most.  Also Hitler had support from the Pope at the time, it was fractions of the Vatican that supported him to get into power. 

[6666]

This thread is going the wrong way. Even the "Jews control America" stuff was probably uncalled for...

Let's just keep to Abramovich being a cunt and how all his assets in Britain need to be frozen/destroyed.

[Cicero]

Glad I wasnt the only one that thought that was uncalled for 

[Spike]

Well, the Jews do control America, as the USA is Israel's bitch. I don't see it as necessarily an anti-Semitic statement to make but it can very easily become one, or be construed in that manner; it really depends on the context. Of course that doesn't mean the regular Joe Smithberg down at the local temple controls the USA. 

It's really no different from saying that 'Freemasons have an overly strong influence on the French FA' (only if there is no inferred or implied racism/bigotry/what have you).

[Honey Honey]

15 minutes ago, Spike said:

Well, the Jews do control America, as the USA is Israel's bitch. I don't see it as necessarily an anti-Semitic statement to make but it can very easily become one, or be construed in that manner; it really depends on the context. Of course that doesn't mean the regular Joe Smithberg down at the local temple controls the USA. 

It's really no different from saying that 'Freemasons have an overly strong influence on the French FA' (only if there is no inferred or implied racism/bigotry/what have you).

There is a massive difference between the following two sentences

Jews control America.

The Jews control America.

Anyone using "The Jews" is implying purposefully or ignorantly that there is a Jewish conspiracy and is engaging in Trump type racialism.

[bozziovai]

12 minutes ago, Spike said:

Well, the Jews do control America, as the USA is Israel's bitch. I don't see it as necessarily an anti-Semitic statement to make but it can very easily become one, or be construed in that manner; it really depends on the context. Of course that doesn't mean the regular Joe Smithberg down at the local temple controls the USA. 

It's really no different from saying that 'Freemasons have an overly strong influence on the French FA' (only if there is no inferred or implied racism/bigotry/what have you).

it's nice that we're able to come to this discussion coz i've done some research about this after the start of the syrian war to why is israel untouchable in the arab world.   and yet, i can't find any definitive answer.    some say that israel is needed by the americans as a point of entry in the middle east and some say that israel gives the americans much top secret stuff .. i don't know which is which .... it's a very very small country and yet no one has conquered it, neither iran nor iraq nor it's neighbor lebanon has spilled it's civil war towards isreal ...

[Devil-Dick Willie]

Abramovich now owns enough of the world to be inducted as a jew.

[Panna King]

Roman won’t be able to Work in Uk, he was on a Investment visa before so bascially he needs to invest a minimum of 2 million pounds  with the UK goverment, it lasts for 5 years.  Now with his new passport it gives him a stay of only 6 months.

[Panna King]

1 hour ago, Cicero said:

Glad I wasnt the only one that thought that was uncalled for 

Well it is though, The Rothschilds etc who were orginally German Jews like the other mega rich in America, most are all big banking families who own alot of central banks around the World including America. 

 

Anyway Roman Ambramovich family are also quite well known through history, I wonder what will happen to the other Russians once their visa is up.

[Panna King]

13 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said:

Abramovich now owns enough of the world to be inducted as a jew.

He could just move to France, owns about 3 properties there.