Toinho 2,210 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Well that settles it. USA, UK and Australia all have utter wankstains in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,664 Posted July 23, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted July 23, 2019 Good, hopefully the absolute and inevitable destruction of this country can accelerate to its conclusion now so that one way or another, we can move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 1,437 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, Toinho said: Well that settles it. USA, UK and Australia all have utter wankstains in charge. You'd rather we had Shorten,? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,190 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Tommy said: No the United States AND the United Kingdom have clowns at the top. That’s been true for a while tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toinho 2,210 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, Harry said: You'd rather we had Shorten,? Marginally. Unfortunately these days, Labor are basically liberal in red. Shorten has one thing going for him in my opinion: he’s not a religious nutjob who planned on cutting billions to public education and gift billions to private schools like the current goblin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fairy In Boots 607 Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 I didn’t want Boris, quite disappointed with how it’s gone full “he’s our Trump” though, Boris has always been on the more progressive side of the Tory party tbh. You will get the same as with Trump, wanton shrieking and polarisation of an already fractured political landscape. Personally I’ll reserve judgement on his first 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,190 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 30 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: I didn’t want Boris, quite disappointed with how it’s gone full “he’s our Trump” though, Boris has always been on the more progressive side of the Tory party tbh. You will get the same as with Trump, wanton shrieking and polarisation of an already fractured political landscape. Personally I’ll reserve judgement on his first 12 months. It was also said that Trump was closer to a democrat than a republican though. I think he's Trump-like in that his positions are flexible as fuck, because I don't think they have any real principles other than self promotion. I don't think it'll go well, but I don't think Hunt would have been any better. And really I think all party leadership in the UK looks pretty shite - so I think whatever possible option for who could possibly be PM, we're going to be stuck with an inept moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 The list of things he has said previously is absolutely staggering considering he is now PM, things that would not look out of place spoken by the likes of Steven Yaxley-Lennon or Kate Hopkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots 607 Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 I don’t know why there’s this “what will he do” question doing the rounds. he has next to no choice, they must leave by October the 31st with a new deal that’s not May’s deal or on a No Deal basis. The European elections have seen to that, they will split the Tory vote if they kick the can down the road and a split vote with the Brexit party opens the door to a LibDem/Labour coalition and they’re all Marxists and delusional remainacs so must be avoided at all costs. His best hope is the EU get cold feet and concede parts of the deal, I’d say it’s 50/50 tonight. Failing that it’s no deal exit and a game of chicken as to who comes to the table cap in hand first between the UK& EU to strike a deal probably back end of 2020 early 2021. My suspicion is we will weather the storm better than the EU so we get a better deal post a no deal scenario. 49 minutes ago, Danny said: The list of things he has said previously is absolutely staggering considering he is now PM, things that would not look out of place spoken by the likes of Steven Yaxley-Lennon or Kate Hopkins Lol you are a virtue signaling snowflake, it is laughable. Absolute night and day between Hopkins and Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Hewitt 1,282 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I see Corbyn is already considering an attempt to get in through the back door again. He seems to forget that Gordon Brown never held an election when he succeeded Tony Blair. Also, nice to see Plaid Cymru being themselves as per usual, wanking on about false independence. Even Sturgeon offered her congratulations and didn't go off on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,664 Posted July 23, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted July 23, 2019 Corbyn needs to look at himself as well. Most of the public are really not impressed with Boris becoming prime minister, yet Corbyn's approval ratings are even lower (around 25%). Even with the frowned upon policies Corbyn believes in, and the amount of smear campaigning the papers have done about him being a racist and a terrorist, it's pretty shocking just from a PR perspective that he and the Labour party have conspired to have a lower approval rating than any Conservative leader after the past couple of years. If Labour had seized the initiative and taken an opposing position to the Tories on Brexit months ago, they would be the ones enjoying the massive surge that has gone the way of the Liberal Democrats in recent months, and would hold a significant lead in opinion polls backed up by a comfortable majority in the European elections, even with such a polarising figure at the head of the party. Instead they've waited and dithered and still don't have a significant advantage over the most battered and bruised Conservative party we've probably seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted July 23, 2019 Administrator Share Posted July 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Bluebird Hewitt said: He seems to forget that Gordon Brown never held an election when he succeeded Tony Blair. Ironically, these were Johnson's words when Brown became PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, Fairy In Boots said: I don’t know why there’s this “what will he do” question doing the rounds. he has next to no choice, they must leave by October the 31st with a new deal that’s not May’s deal or on a No Deal basis. The European elections have seen to that, they will split the Tory vote if they kick the can down the road and a split vote with the Brexit party opens the door to a LibDem/Labour coalition and they’re all Marxists and delusional remainacs so must be avoided at all costs. His best hope is the EU get cold feet and concede parts of the deal, I’d say it’s 50/50 tonight. Failing that it’s no deal exit and a game of chicken as to who comes to the table cap in hand first between the UK& EU to strike a deal probably back end of 2020 early 2021. My suspicion is we will weather the storm better than the EU so we get a better deal post a no deal scenario. Lol you are a virtue signaling snowflake, it is laughable. Absolute night and day between Hopkins and Johnson The picaninnies and watermelon smiles (more Hopkins than Yaxley-Lennon tbh), his belief that Africa should be run by colonial powers (aka white supremacy), his belief that British values need to rule the world again (aka colonialism aka white supremacy) the piece he allowed at the Spectator to be published stating black People have small brains and low IQ, calling Muslim women bank robbers and letterboxes (this is probably more your style of Islamophobia than anything which is probably why you’d be slow to condem him). You genuinely get more annoyed at people pointing out racism/bigotry than it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,190 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, RandoEFC said: Corbyn needs to look at himself as well. Most of the public are really not impressed with Boris becoming prime minister, yet Corbyn's approval ratings are even lower (around 25%). Even with the frowned upon policies Corbyn believes in, and the amount of smear campaigning the papers have done about him being a racist and a terrorist, it's pretty shocking just from a PR perspective that he and the Labour party have conspired to have a lower approval rating than any Conservative leader after the past couple of years. If Labour had seized the initiative and taken an opposing position to the Tories on Brexit months ago, they would be the ones enjoying the massive surge that has gone the way of the Liberal Democrats in recent months, and would hold a significant lead in opinion polls backed up by a comfortable majority in the European elections, even with such a polarising figure at the head of the party. Instead they've waited and dithered and still don't have a significant advantage over the most battered and bruised Conservative party we've probably seen. Corbyn is absolutely inept for not capitalising on Conservative infighting and Labour in general are idiots for not pushing him/the party to take a firm stance. The decision to sit on the fence re: Brexit and not take a firm stance, while that's what most voters care most about at this point in time is absolutely insane. You can't try to win both sides over on the hot button political issue in the country - what's going to get them votes is by taking an actual stance. I think the state of the party is indication that Corbyn shouldn't be the Labour leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 That wasn’t even mentioning the sexism, Malaysian women go to Uni to find husbands or voting Tory means your wife will have bigger breasts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Hewitt 1,282 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, Stan said: Ironically, these were Johnson's words when Brown became PM I didn't know he said that. I still stand by what I mentioned though as it's just sheer hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 3,008 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Couldn't believe the news when I read this... Are you guys not paying attention to Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted July 23, 2019 Administrator Share Posted July 23, 2019 23 minutes ago, Eco said: Are you guys not paying attention to Trump? The public didn't vote for Boris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, Stan said: The public didn't vote for Boris. The public didn’t vote for Gordon Brown either I seem to remember. That isn’t a problem for me as that is the legal protocol. My problem is that these are not normal times and a particular unbalanced stance on the most important moment in the UK’s history in peacetime shouldn’t have this situation pushed upon it. Seeing as Theresa May stood down, in this particular and singular instance there should’ve been a General Election called even though it’s the last thing needed in reality and doesn’t fix much in all probability. All the same it’s what should’ve been done. The problem was that in this particular moment the Tories are destroyed and they would’ve been disintegrated into nothingness. It’s all been party politics from the Tories but then again it’s been that with Corbyn’s Labour Party throughout Brexit, at this most important time they’ve all played the game of thrones while the future of the British people and the future of younger generations hangs by a rancid, racist, far-right thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,692 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Bluebird Hewitt said: I didn't know he said that. I still stand by what I mentioned though as it's just sheer hypocrisy. Indeed, Boris is the slimiest hypocritical and self serving piece of excrement to have ever held the office of Prime Minister of the UK. Not wrong there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,190 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 50 minutes ago, Eco said: Couldn't believe the news when I read this... Are you guys not paying attention to Trump? It was a conservative leadership election so only about 160,000 (ish, it's not an exact figure) people had a say in Hunt v. BoJo. I think the problem is they've been paying attention to Trump and they see a man not seeing the consequences for any of his actions while pushing policy in support of the interests of the ultra-wealthy. And they're thinking "yeah, sign us up for that." Not sure that's the wisest move in a parliamentary system, where the PM has a great deal more accountability than the US President... but my guess is they've looked at the parallels between him, they see his Steve Bannon training, and they think "fuck it, let's try it." 10 minutes ago, SirBalon said: .It’s all been party politics from the Tories but then again it’s been that with Corbyn’s Labour Party throughout Brexit, at this most important time they’ve all played the game of thrones while the future of the British people and the future of younger generations hangs by a rancid, racist, far-right thread. I think Corbyn's Labour has done an utterly shite job playing party politics, tbh. He tried to have the party sit on the fence over the most polarising issue in British politics (maybe the most polarising issue in British politics ever), when making Brexit a partisan issue has been something that's seen the Lib Dems see big growth after a time where Lib Dems lost so many of the people who'd voted for them in previous elections. If he's playing the game of thrones, he's fucking dogshit at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted July 23, 2019 Administrator Share Posted July 23, 2019 What annoys me is that 160,000 people got to choose the leader that's going to represent the whole of the country. How backwards is that? I know it's the rules but it just seems counter-intuitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie 3,253 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, Stan said: What annoys me is that 160,000 people got to choose the leader that's going to represent the whole of the country. How backwards is that? I know it's the rules but it just seems counter-intuitive. I love when an election goes poorly and people start blaming the system. America did it too. Letting every individual vote for their favourite comes down to even more of a backward as fuck popularity contest than it already is, and also.... People are fucking Jim Broadbent. This is exactly how you get boatyMcboatface or fucking lord buckethead as the leader of your nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted July 23, 2019 Administrator Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: I love when an election goes poorly and people start blaming the system. America did it too. This wasn't even an election of the people though It's an election of a very small minority in the grand scheme of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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