Administrator Stan 18,397 Posted December 26, 2020 Administrator Share Posted December 26, 2020 Yay or nay? Even Derby had won a game by this time of the season if I remember correctly, against Newcastle? Should Wilder go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,012 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 They only tend to lose games by narrow margins but I'd be surprised to see them hit double figures at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,670 Posted December 26, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted December 26, 2020 What's the total? I think they'll get 15-20 points to be fair. No point in Wilder going at this point because there's no keeping them up now. They'd need to get 38 points in 23 games to hit the 40 point mark which might not be necessary for 17th but to get in that ball park is around 1.5 points per game or more which is better than what they managed last season. Whether they want to give him another chance when they go down to rebuild and come back up, that's what they need to base their decision on. I do think he's a decent manager but people got carried away with him last season. I love some of their tactical innovations but they do seem to have been found out this season. At the same time if you look at the quality in the squad they have no business really performing better than even the likes of Brighton and Fulham. Even if they'd put the Brewster money to better use, I think they'd have really struggled this season regardless of manager, coaching and tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,012 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Derby got 11 points @RandoEFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,197 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I think there’s a good chance they put up less points than Derby this season. Don’t want to say it’s nailed on, because they did pretty fucking well last season - and how good they actually are is somewhere between where they finished last season and how poor they look now. I don’t think they stay up this season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ 1,918 Posted December 27, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted December 27, 2020 They better not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,616 Posted December 27, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted December 27, 2020 It only takes two games at this point for them to find their way into a fight to get out of relegation but the way they've been playing this year and how they concede goals I can't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N U F C 171 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 They haven't played us yet so that's 6 points for them. I don't think they'll break any records, it's a shame really because I really like Wilder and think he's an excellent manager. Seems like it's the lockdown that fucked them, they struggled after that even last season. Their squad is just full of Championship players though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 3,828 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 They have 3 winnable games next. A limited Burnley team, a Palace side that's a bit of an enigma and Newcastle who are perennial strugglers. I'd not be surprised to see them string a couple wins out of those games. If they remarkably lose all three of those, the record is definitely on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Unless something changes soon we'll probably have had 5 straight defeats going into our game with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,406 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 They'll beat it. They look far more competitive and organised than Derby County did under Paul Jewell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNA 107 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 7 hours ago, N U F C said: They haven't played us yet so that's 6 points for them. I don't think they'll break any records, it's a shame really because I really like Wilder and think he's an excellent manager. Seems like it's the lockdown that fucked them, they struggled after that even last season. Their squad is just full of Championship players though. That’s correct post-lockdown it’s all gone downhill, it disrupted our rhythm and we lost the 12th man and clubs like ours need that to galvanise the team. Add a season-long injury to our most important defender and losing the best keeper in the league so he can chill on Man-Yoo’s bench and you’ve got a recipe for disaster. There have been no embarrassing defeats and as mentioned above, mostly narrow and even recently against Everton it took an 80th minute winner, Wilder going makes no sense as mathematically it would take a miracle now to stay up and there isn’t anyone out there who’d be a step up for a Championship campaign with the players we have. If we had an owner willing to get us to the next level, we’d have changed our wage structure in the summer and signed the players we really needed, not everyone can do a Burnley (although they have a higher wage bill than us, we are rock bottom). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,616 Posted December 28, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 hours ago, DNA said: That’s correct post-lockdown it’s all gone downhill, it disrupted our rhythm and we lost the 12th man and clubs like ours need that to galvanise the team. Add a season-long injury to our most important defender and losing the best keeper in the league so he can chill on Man-Yoo’s bench and you’ve got a recipe for disaster. There have been no embarrassing defeats and as mentioned above, mostly narrow and even recently against Everton it took an 80th minute winner, Wilder going makes no sense as mathematically it would take a miracle now to stay up and there isn’t anyone out there who’d be a step up for a Championship campaign with the players we have. If we had an owner willing to get us to the next level, we’d have changed our wage structure in the summer and signed the players we really needed, not everyone can do a Burnley (although they have a higher wage bill than us, we are rock bottom). Did United specifically recall Henderson or could you'll not afford him on the wage bill anymore? That seemed a bit odd to me because as you said hes not getting regular play time at United and playing second fiddle to DeGea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNA 107 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 10 hours ago, Mel81x said: Did United specifically recall Henderson or could you'll not afford him on the wage bill anymore? That seemed a bit odd to me because as you said hes not getting regular play time at United and playing second fiddle to DeGea. He desperately wanted to go back and ‘fight’ for his spot , man-yu have put him on a massive new deal as well, which makes a loan less viable. Suppose it’s a bit of both really, he’s falling into obscurity now though, all the hype gone and his international spot dead in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,616 Posted December 28, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted December 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, DNA said: He desperately wanted to go back and ‘fight’ for his spot , man-yu have put him on a massive new deal as well, which makes a loan less viable. Suppose it’s a bit of both really, he’s falling into obscurity now though, all the hype gone and his international spot dead in the water. Well I suppose he did spend his youth career there and wants to make an impression but he was doing so well for you'll. It may have been watching DeGea decline a bit and thinking I have a chance with all the momentum I have built for myself only to realize the manager still favors the Spaniard over him. I think its a waste to have someone with the kind of talent he has sitting on the bench but then again who knows what he really wants in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber JoshBRFC+ 1,388 Posted December 29, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted December 29, 2020 Pretty sure they won’t get less points than that Derby team. Would love them to beat Burnley today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Pyfish+ 2,773 Posted December 29, 2020 Subscriber Share Posted December 29, 2020 I think they'll end up with more points than that Derby team did. They're just struggling to fire in the goals at the moment and losing Hendo hasn't helped them keep them out either. If you look at their xG, they're actually creating more chances than a few of the teams above them like West Brom, Burnley, Newcastle and even Wolves but they're issue is actually getting those shots into the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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