Rick Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Andy Carroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 Abdul Khaliq- The flying bird of Asia. Fastest Asian athelete of his time and was regarded among the top ten in his prime. Shame he never got much professional oppotunities but proved himself in little he got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azeem Posted August 26, 2017 Author Share Posted August 26, 2017 Shahid Afridi-The mans vintage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted August 27, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted August 27, 2017 From the Isle of Man, Mark Cavendish is the only real big name, successful in the Tour de France, former cycling World Champion and Sports Personality of the Year. We also have Peter Kennaugh, another cyclist who was part of an Olympic Team Pursuit gold medal team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toinho Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 21 hours ago, Harry said: Donald Bradman. Peerless cricketer Rod Laver. One of the great tennis players. Idol of Federer. Godfather of tennis. Greg Norman. Johnny Warren. Captain Socceroo. Instrumental in getting football taken seriously in Australia. Not a world best but hugely important to Australian football. Tim Cahill (biased but i dont care) Andrew Gaze. The Michael Jordan of Australian basketball. Good list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 On 26/08/2017 at 3:29 PM, VanPanna said: Johan Cruyff - Changed the game of football to what we see today. Fanny Blankers-Koen - Best Dutch women's Athlete of all time. Raymond Van Barneveld - started the Darts revolution in Holland, there wouldn't be a Michael Van Gerwen without him. I remember when the world championship was dominated by english players. But you guys have potentially overtaken us now. Taylor was amazing but when you look at how much darts has improved even is he doesn't win as much van Gerwen could be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Margeret Court Shane Warne Dawn Fraser Ken Rosewall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithcore Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Fritz Walter Max Schmeling Michael Schumacher Dirk Nowitzki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 apart from those added above by my fellow countrymen, I would like to add Dravid - To me he is a lot more important and greater player than Sachin (but that debate is for some other time) and coming to legacy wise, he is a national coach contender and is already nurturing the U19 team. He was the first ever foreign cricket to present the Sir Donald Bradman's oration. Baichung Bhutia - When someone talks about Indian football he is the first person that pops into the minds, so I dont have to discuss anything about his legacy. IM Vijayan - Another football player from the past who was considered as the greatest football legend of India, never saw him play though Viswanathan Anand - Chess Genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 6 hours ago, Asura said: apart from those added above by my fellow countrymen, I would like to add Dravid - To me he is a lot more important and greater player than Sachin (but that debate is for some other time) and coming to legacy wise, he is a national coach contender and is already nurturing the U19 team. He was the first ever foreign cricket to present the Sir Donald Bradman's oration. Baichung Bhutia - When someone talks about Indian football he is the first person that pops into the minds, so I dont have to discuss anything about his legacy. IM Vijayan - Another football player from the past who was considered as the greatest football legend of India, never saw him play though Viswanathan Anand - Chess Genius Why is it that you guys don't do better at football mate? Is itbecause of resources? From what I have read football is the second most popular sport in India? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asura Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Gunnersauraus said: Why is it that you guys don't do better at football mate? Is itbecause of resources? From what I have read football is the second most popular sport in India? we are bad in almost every sport except maybe cricket and the reasons are plenty. Fans arent interested in any of them so generally the revenue is going to be very low and the government (or sports boards) doesnt encourage any other sport as they will have to spend a lot of money in the grass roots level and they instead try to milk the cash cow that is cricket. It looks like football is the second most popular sport in India only because people follow the PL, Liga and other european leagues, the I league games are almost empty in most stadiums except for a very few areas and without the encouragement from the fans locally (both money and atmosphere wise) nothing is going to improve. For example: An average football lover back home will be happy to spend 2000 rupees and buy a foreign club jersey but will not be interested to go watch their local small club play live for 50-100 rupees a match. I will let @IgnisExcubitor and @Mel81x add more points that I may not know of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisExcubitor Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 5 hours ago, Gunnersauraus said: Why is it that you guys don't do better at football mate? Is itbecause of resources? From what I have read football is the second most popular sport in India? Apart from the points @Asura presented, we are also not the most physically robust, something which is needed in football. But times are changing. ISL is popular and there are talks to merge the main I-League with it. Popularity of football is at its highest and we will see more youngsters taking it up. Major European and South American clubs have opened academies in here. If the work continues then I can see us producing a crop of quality players, capable of qualifying for the WC or at least being in the right mix in couple of decades. But we have to be patient. On a side note, I wonder how things would been for Indian football had we not refused to play in the 1950's WC. We had a decent footie team which performed well in 1948 Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Asura Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, IgnisExcubitor said: Apart from the points @Asura presented, we are also not the most physically robust, something which is needed in football. But times are changing. ISL is popular and there are talks to merge the main I-League with it. Popularity of football is at its highest and we will see more youngsters taking it up. Major European and South American clubs have opened academies in here. If the work continues then I can see us producing a crop of quality players, capable of qualifying for the WC or at least being in the right mix in couple of decades. But we have to be patient. On a side note, I wonder how things would been for Indian football had we not refused to play in the 1950's WC. We had a decent footie team which performed well in 1948 Olympics. Also one more thing I observed a lot with our folks is no one gives a damn about the sport actually, its always about the personnel. No one really went mad about Badminton (except a very few true fans of the sport) until PV Sindhu won the medal recently, and once that happened many joined the bandwagon but none of them really cares for any upcoming youngsters. Its the same thing with the government as they wont provide any good funds and facitilites to develop the upcoming players but will shower the winners with gold and money only because they won a medal. How are the many talented players going to win something if they dont have the proper platform. In case of PV Sindhu, she apparently comes from a decently well off family and they could afford all the facilities but what about 1000s of others who cant afford them but have great talent. I personally dislike ISL, its nothing but a flashy and glitter filled stupid tournament but at the same time something is better than nothing and I hope it ignites the passion amongst the locals about their home town clubs. Most of the people who watch ISL is because of SRK, Ganguly, John Abraham etc being part of the ownership of their respective clubs. I wish to see sold out stadiums for I league in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisExcubitor Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 ISL is not perfect and tries to ape IPL, but it has brought in sponsors,which are important to these players, and crowds. Look at how huge Kabbadi has become. As annoying as things around ISL can be, I personally think it will be of great benefit to Indian football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserker Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 There's so many, here's those i can remember: Football: Messi, Maradona Tennis: Vilas, Del Potro Women's Tennis: Gabriela Sabatini Basketball: Ginobili, Scola Formula 1/Auto Racing: Fangio the GOAT Taek-wondo men: Sebastian Crismanich Taek-wondo women: Paula Pareto Women's Hockey: Luciana Aimar also the GOAT Polo: Adolfo Cambiasso the GOAT Voleyball: Milinkovic, Facundo Conte Sir Boxing: Carlos Monzon, Pascual Perez, there's also Bonavena who managed to throw Muhammad Ali to the floor and only lost to him by points fighting abroad. Women's Boxing: Locomotora Castro and Tigresa Acuña, also the greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickie Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Michael Phelps- Greatest Swimmer and Olympian of all time end of story good bye Michael Jordan- Greatest Basketball player of all time Tom Brady- Because Tom Brady Babe Ruth - Greatest baseball players of all time Tiger Woods- He's lost it a bit but in history Muhammed Ali- Best Boxer in history hands down Serena Williams- Best Female Tennis player of all time This list can go on forever but I'll leave it at that for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted August 29, 2017 Subscriber Share Posted August 29, 2017 15 hours ago, Asura said: It looks like football is the second most popular sport in India only because people follow the PL, Liga and other european leagues, the I league games are almost empty in most stadiums except for a very few areas and without the encouragement from the fans locally (both money and atmosphere wise) nothing is going to improve. For example: An average football lover back home will be happy to spend 2000 rupees and buy a foreign club jersey but will not be interested to go watch their local small club play live for 50-100 rupees a match. I will let @IgnisExcubitor and @Mel81x add more points that I may not know of The problem with football here isn't just the viewership its how disparate it used to be and how some cities had it going for them so much better than others. That's changing now and the I-League's combination with the ISL imo is a bad idea because I hate it when you have to take something that is a proper league and merge it with some cash-cow showdown that honestly no one even cares that much for anymore. I wanted the reverse with a better transfer/inclusion policy on players from other leagues coming to play in the I-League because it would have improved the sport so much more. Look at BFC this year and the Asia Cup? A few years ago if you'd told me that going to the local stadium to watch football was going to be exciting I'd have laughed. Granted its never a full-house but the fans who do come make up for it in more ways than one and the football is getting so much better everyday. As for why we don't do well at the national level? There are many reasons and I think the biggest one is lack of change and discipline. I remember a Dutch coach saying that there is talent it just needs proper nurturing and the players need to understand how nutrition, training and understanding the game will go a long way to helping India get better at the world stage. Did anyone heed his advice? Nope. I'd like to see us play internationally at a WC and it may come in my lifetime(I hope) but we have a long way to go before we're close to where we need to be to get out of our qualifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted August 29, 2017 Moderator Share Posted August 29, 2017 Motorsports: Michael Schumacher Sebastian Vettel Basketball: Dirk Nowitzki Tennis: Boris Becker Steffi Graf Boxing: Max Schmeling Biathlon: Magdalena Neuner Ski jumping: Sven Hannawald Ice hockey: Uwe Krupp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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