England National Team Discussion

[6666]

The squad is seriously shit now for this international break. This was supposed to be tests for the team and the system we were going to play at the tournament. Now it's just a waste of time. Gareth Southgate is manager as well, no Premier League team would want him but this is the man that's supposed to bring together uninterested players and get them playing...

[Stan]

39 minutes ago, Teso dos Bichos said:

Apart from Vardy and Maguire, the squad is average. 

Agree mate. Glad you're finally getting rid of the hate.

[Danny]

Don't take this as a direct comparison because it's not, but in terms of Loftus-Cheek's style and body shape watching him play is reminiscent of watching Zidane play. Tall player, fairly strong for someone so skillful, great footwork, keeps the ball close to him and doesn't rely on his pace to catch up with it. Probably a lot more accurate to say he could be the next Yoann Gourcuff than Zinedine Zidane 

[Stan]

Solanke? 

Why not Calvert-Lewin? 

[Dave]

2 hours ago, Cannabis said:

Solanke is the media's wankfest, that's why.

Nothing to do with them monitoring both players from a very young age and coming to the conclusion that Solanke is a better footballer. 

[Dave]

On 11/11/2017 at 0:18 AM, Danny said:

Don't take this as a direct comparison because it's not, but in terms of Loftus-Cheek's style and body shape watching him play is reminiscent of watching Zidane play. Tall player, fairly strong for someone so skillful, great footwork, keeps the ball close to him and doesn't rely on his pace to catch up with it. Probably a lot more accurate to say he could be the next Yoann Gourcuff than Zinedine Zidane 

To think he's lost four years of development because of the competitive nature of the premier league is quite frankly embarrassing. If only The FA had control over all English Domestic Leagues so there were no conflict of interests.

[Honey Honey]

 

 

Why are we preparing for the world cup by playing teams not good enough to qualify for the world cup 

[Dave]

Why has Gareth Southgate suddenly become a man in his interviews? I love it.

[Cicero]

On 11/11/2017 at 6:10 PM, Cannabis said:

Solanke is the media's wankfest, that's why.

Funny how as soon as he moves to Liverpool, the wanking initiated...

[Cicero]

On 11/10/2017 at 6:18 PM, Danny said:

Don't take this as a direct comparison because it's not, but in terms of Loftus-Cheek's style and body shape watching him play is reminiscent of watching Zidane play. Tall player, fairly strong for someone so skillful, great footwork, keeps the ball close to him and doesn't rely on his pace to catch up with it. Probably a lot more accurate to say he could be the next Yoann Gourcuff than Zinedine Zidane 

Talent is definitely there, but he still plays 'scared' and conservative. He doesn't express his football freely nor does he force himself to always be involved, like Zaha does. 

I suppose it could come with experience, but he needs a massive confidence boost and in this particular case, an ego. 

Edited November 14, 2017 by Cicero

[Panna King]

Netherlands will beat England, they always do. 

[The Artful Dodger]

2 hours ago, Cicero said:

Funny how as soon as he moves to Liverpool, the wanking initiated...

Bigger club bigger media interest, way it will always be with Manchester United and Liverpool.

Edited November 14, 2017 by The Artful Dodger

[Cicero]

3 minutes ago, The Artful Dodger said:

Bigger club bigger media interest, way it will always be with Manchester United and Liverpool.

Great at youth level but can't honestly see the hype around him. Nor Abraham (who is vastly limited)

[Dave]

3 hours ago, Cicero said:

Funny how as soon as he moves to Liverpool, the wanking initiated...

It was more after getting player of the tournament in the summer. Most people were saying at the time it wasn't the correct move for him.

[Cicero]

 

Edited November 28, 2017 by Cicero

[Honey Honey]

Basically they were all saps with anal personalities and England needs a Gazza to break that culture.

[Cicero]

They did make some interesting points. Instead of a bond, it was just a mere mutual respect with one another given their competitiveness for their club and the fact they all played in the premier league vs other nations in the world. No bravery in management and telling one of Lampard or Gerrard and/or Rooney or Owen to sit out in favor of a more balanced side. 

[Dave]

The comments about Southgate keeping his job regardless of what happens this summer is somewhat concerning.

[Dan+]

Concerning is very generous. I'd say disgraceful. What an absolutely terrible message to send out going into a World Cup - acceptance of failing in one of the easiest groups we could've asked for. You can't use the World Cup to practice for the future as they aren't frequent enough, this is the real thing - if we seriously can't come above fucking Tunisia and Panama then how on earth can you argue that we're moving in any kind of right direction? We've got a better squad than we had two years ago. We've actually got a lot of players playing well on the continent which is the first time in years you can say that's the case.

I actually don't get what goes through these peoples heads at times. What an absolutely ridiculous thing to come out with. Covering our arses incase we don't better Tunisia  absolutely unbelievable. He's got to go.

Edited December 4, 2017 by Dan

[Carnivore Chris]

@Cannabis 

 

[Rick]

How does he not get the sack for this? Joke or not, it sets a bad image for the womens national team.

Also, how the FUCK are people not investigating social media accounts prior to hiring somebody for a high profile job? 

[Lucas]

Extremely unprofessional of the FA to not partake some proper due diligence on Neville, with the social media aspect covered, especially after all the sensitivity over the last Woman's coach getting the push for controversial circumstances. And Neville looks a prize cunt now for his comments.

That said, things were different back in 2011 when he first made one of them comments. He was a professional footballer, captain of his club and probably still a bit naïve (like all footballers are) to realise the consequence of posting such tweets that could be considered offensive. He isn't the first footballer/sport star/celebrity to be undone by something they said in the past and he won't be the last.

We all say tongue in cheek comments on a regular basis but because he's in the public eye, he'd be more scrutinised. 

I don't think it's Neville's true thoughts now anyway. He obviously wanted the job and let's be fair, if he wanted to, he could probably be a coach at a PL club and get paid way more than what he's being paid as England Woman's manager. But clearly he really wanted the job so obviously has no issue with women's football.

The fact of the matter now is, when you go for a high profile job/role, the safest thing is to delete your social media. Standard.

[Smiley Culture]

Given the number of Footballers who don’t get sacked for the past Twitter behaviour, especially Andre Gray, who’s comments about gays, were well over the mark, it would be unfair, IMO, to sack a manager for the same offence. 

The only people who should be getting abuse at present are The FA, who’ve undermined Women’s Football by appointing someone who’s criminally inexperienced for the role. 

[Dan+]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/bayer-leverkusen-leon-bailey-england-12042341

We may have had a huge stroke of luck here. Leon Bailey of Bayer Leverkusen is apparently eligible to play for England (as well as Jamaica, Belgium and Malta, strangely) and would consider it.

That's a game changer for us. He's quality and that for me is our weakest position. Exactly what we need.

[Danny]

Potential England line up in 2-4 years anyone? I don't know a lot about our u21s/u20s/u17s etc these days which is a shame as I could name most of our previous u21 sides when they weren't winning anything , so may have left out some bigger younger names. But I'm just looking at this tournament as well and seeing who Southgate will keep around for the next two tournaments to act as the spine.

Kane/Lookman

Sancho/Sessegnon - Alli - Sterling/Gray

Dier/Henderson - Foden/Winks

Shaw/?? - Oxford/Egbo - Stones/??? - Alexander-Arnold/???

Pickford