Matchday Chat - Aug to Dec 2017/18 season archive

[Stan]

Deadlock broken. Mistake by Stephens. City pounce and Aguero slots it in. 

[Honey Honey]

5 minutes ago, Asura said:

I dont know why Aguero even plays for a title contending team like City anymore. He has been so shite all day today and has been so in the last couple of seasons, misses so many good opportunities

Oops 

[Asura]

Just now, HoneyNUFC said:

Oops 

That was bound to happen after I posted but I stand by what I said mate, he missed two easy opportunities and the goal he scored now wasnt even that great one either, decent finish 

[LFCMadLad]

37 minutes ago, LFCMike said:

And I never said it was. I said whether it's down to FSG or Klopp

Oh come on Mike, you take every little opportunity to take a dig at them. 

In this case the money has been made available by them, it's the manager and recruitment team that have managed to balls things up. 

[Honey Honey]

Knockaert diving all over the place 

[Happy Blue]

54 minutes ago, Asura said:

I dont know why Aguero even plays for a title contending team like City anymore. He has been so shite all day today and has been so in the last couple of seasons, misses so many good opportunities

.....But scores 20 to 30+ goals EVERY season while spending 6 months of it on a table 

[LFCMadLad]

21 minutes ago, Happy Blue said:

.....But scores 20 to 30+ goals EVERY season while spending 6 months of it on a table 

Exactly what I was thinking. 

[carefreeluke]

Lampard spot on, Chelsea shouldn't have went 3-0, our reaction after the sending off was awful.

Good to see Conte comment on it as well:

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'We lost our composure after this red card and we have to improve a lot in this aspect.'

 

[Dave]

Everything I thought would happen actually happened. Embarrassing. 

[carefreeluke]

2 minutes ago, Aaroncpfc said:

Everything I thought would happen actually happened. Embarrassing. 

Some Palace fans very happy with Loftus Cheek today, what were your thoughts on him mate?

[Dave]

7 minutes ago, carefreeluke said:

Some Palace fans very happy with Loftus Cheek today, what were your thoughts on him mate?

For some unknown reason - not that anything he has done makes sense anyway - De Boer played him on the right in the first half. He did what he could. On the second half common sense prevailed and Townsend went right and he played in the middle. We had more of the ball in the second half as he's quite an imposing figure. I'd give him a 6.5/10 which is significantly better than virtually everybody else that played. Not that playing in an uncomfortable system that neglects the basic fundamentals of defending helps.

[Storts]

I watched the Palace game and the Chelsea game. Loftus-Cheek was pretty good second half, very comfortable on the ball and went past players well from deep. Thought Zaha was woeful, held on to the ball for far too long and very wasteful. Back 5 were shaky and the team seemed very far out their depth. De Boer has a lot of work to do implementing his ideas. Huddersfield full value for their win 

[Dickie]

Well Huddersfield already has proved me wrong....

[carefreeluke]

59 minutes ago, Aaroncpfc said:

For some unknown reason - not that anything he has done makes sense anyway - De Boer played him on the right in the first half. He did what he could. On the second half common sense prevailed and Townsend went right and he played in the middle. We had more of the ball in the second half as he's quite an imposing figure. I'd give him a 6.5/10 which is significantly better than virtually everybody else that played. Not that playing in an uncomfortable system that neglects the basic fundamentals of defending helps.

Cheers mate, saw loads of Palace fans creaming over him on Twitter.

[Dan+]

3 hours ago, carefreeluke said:

Chelsea vs Burnley

Players weren't booed off, everything was aimed at the referee. I'll have to watch the incidents back but I haven't experienced that much hostility towards a referee at Stamford Bridge since Ovrebo.

Cahill's controversially sent off yes but the mentality of our players after that in the first half was dreadful, absolutely dreadful and that's what ultimately lost us the game in my opinion. This isn't knee jerk as I've questioned the mentality and quality of some these players on numerous occasions last season as well, there's no way the team of Lampard, Terry, Cole, Ballack, Cech etc would have conceded three there, there's no way they would have let Arsenal come back in that Community Shield game, and there's no way they would have performed like our current squad did in the first half of the FA Cup final. We were more than capable of beating Burnley with ten, all Burnley did was put three crosses in the box and scored three goals, we cannot defend a cross to save our lives at the moment. Worse thing is, it's so obvious Burnley play that way as well, long direct balls and crosses into the box, defend that and they don't have much else. Of course the board haven't helped either but any team we put out today should have been capable of beating Burnley, in fact I still would have fancied us with ten men. Also, the standard of football in the match today was border line Sunday league at times.

Not half...

 

[carefreeluke]

15 minutes ago, Dan said:

Not half...

 

Bloody hell. 

I'm also happy for Morata as the Burnley players were after him the minute he got on the pitch, after a few failed attempts he was eventually flattened by one of them. He then went on to score and assist a goal.

[Asura]

2 hours ago, Happy Blue said:

.....But scores 20 to 30+ goals EVERY season while spending 6 months of it on a table 

and miss 30 more easy chances

[RandoEFC+]

I mentioned this in another thread but I'll mention it again here, I can't begin to understand why so many people are jumping on Aguero's back. He got injured last season and Jesus came in and scored a few goals now suddenly Aguero's finished and Jesus should be first choice.

 

Aguero's stats:

2011-12 - 30 goals in 48

2012-13 - 17 goals in 40

2013-14 - 28 goals in 34

2014-15 - 32 goals in 42

2015-16 - 29 goals in 44

2016-17 - 33 goals in 45

 

Just because nobody's paid £70 million for him in the last few years doesn't mean he's not still easily one of the best five strikers in the league.

[6666]

Chelsea definitely have just cause to be pissed at the referee. Chill should've just gotten a yellow and the referee is a joke for the first yellow for Fabregas. Oh well.

[Storts]

7 minutes ago, 6666 said:

Chelsea definitely have just cause to be pissed at the referee. Chill should've just gotten a yellow and the referee is a joke for the first yellow for Fabregas. Oh well.

Really?

Completely disagree. Cahill was out of control, lunging, studs up into Defour's leg. Regardless of intent if you're not giving a red there something is wrong. Potential leg breaker.

Fabregas was petulant as always, his sarcastic clap is a clear yellow, has been for a long time and the ref is just applying the laws of the game. Second yellow is blatant. 

Don't really see what the ref did wrong. 

[Cicero]

Burnley player made a similar challenge and only got a yellow

[Dave]

4 hours ago, carefreeluke said:

Cheers mate, saw loads of Palace fans creaming over him on Twitter.

Don't get me wrong, he was good, but if they were creaming over him then they must have got so upset about our performance they were battered.

Everybody here knows what I think about our bollocks idea of playing everybody out of position, and our fixture congestion for the first eight games, and what I perceive happens after that. So instead I'll comment about Huddersfield...

Theyre different to Blackpool. When Blackpool stuffed Wigan 4-0 it was because they relied on momentum. It was ten men behind the ball then as many men as forward as possible. That's because Ollie relied on momentum and not tactical knowledge. Huddersfield are different. Wagner didn't have to do much homework but he realized under De Boers one natural center back policy we didn't defend set pieces much since staying up. So every ball wasn't quick, or on the floor, or dangerous, it was slow floating deliverys that fucked us. Then defensively they were solid. They allowed Zaha an extra yard on the edge of the side of the box because they knew in those positions he wouldn't attack, he would look for a penalty. They had one player near Benteke a all times because he doesn't run, and the other defender acts as a sweeper and intercepts (I counted seven) balls that with a lucky bounce could end up falling to someone that scores. Tactically, if Wagner has a squad that can vary to more situations, they're finishing above fourteenth.  

On a seperate note the way our 'famous atmosphere' handled themselves today was less than desirable. If they start singing the usual songs against Brighton you'll see a media campaign switch against them.

[Toinho]

Aaron Mooy masterclass. 

[Dave]

5 hours ago, Storts said:

I watched the Palace game and the Chelsea game. Loftus-Cheek was pretty good second half, very comfortable on the ball and went past players well from deep. Thought Zaha was woeful, held on to the ball for far too long and very wasteful. Back 5 were shaky and the team seemed very far out their depth. De Boer has a lot of work to do implementing his ideas. Huddersfield full value for their win 

I don't think they showed it on Motd but I was fuming at Zaha in the first half because at one point, when he wasn't on the edge of the box, he received a brilliant through ball and his natural instinct was a slow first touch and look for contact. A top seven player, or an inform Dwight Gayle, Glenn Murray, Andy Johnson in his prime would have knocked that first touch three yards towards the goal and hit it with his second.

I really thought he came on leaps and bounds last season to the point where he's ready to be guided by Pochettino to progress in to a class player but when I see childish, arrogant, primadonna shit like that I wish we carried on Simon Jordan's academy investments (we've not had one academy player join since January 2010 make the first team) so we could have other players to brag about being 'one of our own'.

[Toony]

Not confident today I must admit, Rafa sounds like a miserable fucker every time he does an interview and is very frustrated by the lack of transfer business.

I think he'll do what Brighton did last night, set up and be tough to break down, but I don't think we've got the players to hold them out for 90 minutes and I don't think we've got the players to hurt them offensively either.

Newcastle 0-2 Tottenham