The 'Little Old Bournemouth' Thread

[The Palace Fan 1,559]

Something I was meaning to set up on Saturday but some injury time drama distracted me.

Given we have threads to slag off the likes of Stoke City and West Ham United this thread feels long overdue. 

Everybody that watches Bournemouth live at football matches will know what cleaver, dirty team they are. I think it every year I watch them. It's just constant off the ball body checks, stomping on feet, shirt tugs, that none of the football pundits ever seem to pick up on. Everything about the medias refusal to criticise them annoys me. Its the refusal of the media to ackowledge the amount of money they've spent, its refusal to critique Eddie Howe, its the refusal to just say what Harry Arter really is. Just look at there first goal on Saturday where King blocked Schlupps run. That was practised on the training ground. God, I'm getting more wound the more I go on.

I'm beginning to hate them.

[HK85 267]

Blockers on set pieces have been a thing for years. 

[Danny 896]

They're definitely not little old Bournemouth financially 

[The Palace Fan 1,559]

19 minutes ago, HK85 said:

Blockers on set pieces have been a thing for years. 

Well, no shit. 

[Stan 6,118]

agree to an extent. they may play some decent football every now and then but the flipside of that is that they are needlessly dirty team. Harry Arter is one of the main culprits. One of those rat-like pests that oversteps the marks and gets away with late nicks on players, mistimed tackles. 

They're not this fancy little side any more. That tag needs to be disposed of. As Danny said as well, definitely not financially lacking. 

[Harvsky 2,384]

I don't mind Bournemouth, Eddie Howe has a sinister looking face but that's about it 

[Spike 1,822]

High-school maths teacher is from Bournmouth. I like to see them do well. He also took me to my first strip club at 18.

[The Artful Dodger 1,279]

Don't get the hate, got a bit of money behind them but think Howe is a good manager.

[RandoEFC 3,083]

Don't care about them either way.

[Inverted 1,110]

I'd much rather one of the big northern clubs was in the PL. 

[Stan 6,118]

seen this on another forum:

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Bournemouth Transfer Business since promotion, just for a little perspective to people who might view them as small or a selling club.

2017/18:
Expenditure: £30m
Income: £0

2016/17:
Expenditure: £36m
Income: £22m (mostly from Matt Ritchie)

2015/2016:
Expenditure: £49.5m
Income: £585k

Total: 
Expenditure: £115.5m
Income: £22.5m

 

 

[Storts 1,402]

28 minutes ago, Stan said:

seen this on another forum:

 

Not really that much in the grand scheme of things is it?

[Stan 6,118]

Just now, Storts said:

Not really that much in the grand scheme of things is it?

not really what a 'little' club spends though?

[RandoEFC 3,083]

Stevenage could get promoted to the Premier League and afford to spend that much after a season or two just out of tv money and other sponsorship.

Their big achievement was reaching and staying in the Premier League given their relative stature. They still are relatively "little" as far as the Premier League goes but it makes no difference because the effect that has on their income compared to "bigger" clubs like Newcastle and West Ham is a drop in the ocean relative to the general Premier League income that everyone gets anyway.

[Dr. Gonzo 3,001]

They're pretty shite tbh.

[Dan 1,105]

I don't think there's a side we're so consistently useless against. At least we occasionally play well against Arsenal.

[Spike 1,822]

7 hours ago, Stan said:

not really what a 'little' club spends though?

Chelsea
Man City
Liverpool

[Danny 896]

How much did they spend to get out of the Championship?

As much of a fairytale as it was with Fulham and their owner backing them 

[Harvsky 2,384]

10 hours ago, Danny said:

How much did they spend to get out of the Championship?

As much of a fairytale as it was with Fulham and their owner backing them 

 

Peanuts. 2014/15 = £4.34m, 2013/14 = £3.65m, 2012/13 = £1.41m

Go back to their first season in the Premier League though and this is who they bought...

Benik Afobe £12m (scored 10 goals in 55 appearances)

Tyrone Mings £10m (has managed just 11 games)

Max Gradel £9m (now on loan at Toulouse)

Lewis Grabban £8m (now on loan at Sunderland)

Glenn Murray £4.5m (loaned to and then sold to Brighton after just one season)

Lee Tomlin £3.5m (loaned to and then sold to Bristol City after just one season)

 

The following season they spent £16m on Jordan Ibe. It's not a surprise they are still around the bottom when none of their players have kicked on enough to be pursued by a top 6 club.

[Danny 896]

8 minutes ago, Kitchen Sales said:

 

Peanuts. 2014/15 = £4.34m, 2013/14 = £3.65m, 2012/13 = £1.41m

Go back to their first season in the Premier League though and this is who they bought...

Benik Afobe £12m (scored 10 goals in 55 appearances)

Tyrone Mings £10m (has managed just 11 games)

Max Gradel £9m (now on loan at Toulouse)

Lewis Grabban £8m (now on loan at Sunderland)

Glenn Murray £4.5m (loaned to and then sold to Brighton after just one season)

Lee Tomlin £3.5m (loaned to and then sold to Bristol City after just one season)

 

The following season they spent £16m on Jordan Ibe. It's not a surprise they are still around the bottom when none of their players have kicked on enough to be pursued by a top 6 club.

The season they went up only 3 clubs in the Championship who weren't receiving parachute payments had spent more than them, and then two of them received a transfer embargo. In Bournemouth's second season there were 7 teams who spent less money than them, their first season up they had a larger net spend than 7 other clubs and a larger expenditure than 6.

Factor in that they've finished 16th and 9th and they've hardly been punching above their own weight.

[Toony 95]

Nothing against them.

Think they've wasted a fair bit of money over the last couple of years and look like they may struggle this season, I think Howe should have moved on when he had the chance, his stock is starting to fall and if they go down he'll be wishing he did move.

[The Palace Fan 1,559]

They score an offside goal that hits the players arm in the last minute and the MOTD pundits still couldn't bring themselves to criticise the 'little' club. Pathetic.

[Rick 793]

Why do you hate Bournmouth so much? 😂 loads of clubs have done the same as then in pursuit of the premier league. 

Personally, I have nothing against them but I wouldn't go as far as saying I give a fuck either. Like most the teams in the Premier League, they leave no impression on me. I quite like some of their players, and I like their kit and stadium. There's more unlikable clubs that have spent shitloads like them.

[Dr. Gonzo 3,001]

They just beat Everton, so I like them.

[RandoEFC 3,083]

They're still shite. Aké is a good defender and Begovic a decent 'keeper but otherwise they're just absolute kick and rush. Nothing wrong with that and as long as I'm defending Allardyce's approach to some games I'm not going to sit here and criticise another team for playing shite football but if they carry on like that they'll just stay up until there are no longer three teams shitter than them in the league and they could easily drop this season. Real lack of technical quality.

[The Palace Fan 1,559]

Simon Francis has signed a new three year contract. I would say hes well out of his depth at this level but hes so efficent when it comes to his main qualities of elbowing others, shirt pulling and tripping opponents he's completely at home there. 

[Dan 1,105]

I am simply fed up of our inept performances against them every time without fail. Six games against them in the Premier League, five draws, one loss and not a single good performance. They've really got our number.

I do think they avoid a lot of criticism that they should get simply because they are historically a minnow and are managed by a quite likeable character. The contract they gave Defoe is Redknapp-like at best.

I think since the new TV deal has come in, there really aren't many miracles anymore because everyone has money. I think Huddersfield staying up last year is probably more impressive than anything Bournemouth have done.

[Danny 896]

Eddie Howe needs to do something this Summer because I think they could be candidates for the drop otherwise, I think both Wolves and Fulham will have a good season and with West Ham signing Pellegrini I don't think they'll be many bad sides at the bottom.

[Dan 1,105]

I'll be amazed if the league's as weak as last year. I genuinely think 6th down all had flaws as teams and I think literally any of the bottom half would've been in grave danger most years. So I agree, it'll be stronger.

I think Bournemouth might actually not be a bad shout to drop. Nathan Ake won their player of the month something like 6 months out of 9 last year and that's despite them being quite bad at the back most of the time.

But I always think now with the money teams have it is possible to turn your fortunes around quite quickly if you're clever about how you invest.

[Smiley Culture 1,077]

7 hours ago, Dan said:

I'll be amazed if the league's as weak as last year. I genuinely think 6th down all had flaws as teams and I think literally any of the bottom half would've been in grave danger most years. So I agree, it'll be stronger.

I think Bournemouth might actually not be a bad shout to drop. Nathan Ake won their player of the month something like 6 months out of 9 last year and that's despite them being quite bad at the back most of the time.

But I always think now with the money teams have it is possible to turn your fortunes around quite quickly if you're clever about how you invest.

I don’t know, despite losing West Brom, Stoke and Swansea there’s still a plethora of shit in the Premier League and again, I’d say it’s three out of anything up to ten, maybe more, sides that have got to be looking over their shoulders this coming year. 

Cardiff, Fulham, Watford, Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley and Huddersfield are in the gravest danger I’d say and then the likes of Palace, Newcastle, Southampton and even Leicester can’t be certain of survival. 

If any of those sides put a few results together, ala Newcastle this season just finished, they’ll be okay but first and foremost I think safety is paramount for most of the above.