The Artful Dodger Posted January 3, 2019 Posted January 3, 2019 14 hours ago, The Palace Fan said: Liverpool wanted what's been described as a ridiculously high loan fee and given his previous injury problems combined with fitness concerns we have decided to look elsewhere. Michael Edwards hard ball has backfired. Probably a good thing, you need goals don't you? To be fair to Solanke, Liverpool are not a side setup for a proper number 9 to score loads, Firmino is their number 1 and hardly fits the bill as a typical number 9 and doesn't get all that many. However, he did get his fair crack last season and never really looked like taking it.
Dr. Gonzo Posted January 3, 2019 Posted January 3, 2019 19 hours ago, The Palace Fan said: Liverpool wanted what's been described as a ridiculously high loan fee and given his previous injury problems combined with fitness concerns we have decided to look elsewhere. Michael Edwards hard ball has backfired. Honestly, I don't think he's the player you need either. The experience of playing top flight football in England would be beneficial to us and to him - but you need a proven goalscorer at this level. Last season he got a fair crack to establish himself, and while he showed plenty of promising moments... on the whole it was very clear that he's a very raw player that needs to develop more. Sure, he might develop more of a clinical edge on loan with you... but it's a pretty big ask for a young kid to give a club some much needed firepower when they've never demonstrated they can do that at that level. And paying too much for a temporary move for a player that might not work out for you in a way that can be potentially devastating to you (because you need those goals now) isn't necessarily the greatest idea. Honestly, thought it was a strange move from the get go... because we're pretty difficult with loaning players out - we ask for high loan fees and we put penalties in the contracts if that player doesn't get a certain amount of minutes (and we'd be wanting him to get minutes with you, not just sit on the bench at another club) which can be an obstacle for a player like Solanke where we don't know if he's ready for this level. And there's nothing that Solanke's shown last season that indicates he's anything more than a raw and promising player - it would have been a good opportunity, but a pretty big risk for Palace. Honestly, if I were in charge of Palace I think I'd believe that risk is too great. You need goals now and paying too much for something that's 50-50 odds (or worse) that might not give you those goals would be a massive failure. I think what Solanke demonstrated last season is that he needs a lot more time to develop. His movement and touch were very good, but he didn't seem all that confident in front of goal and would either bottle his chances or slow down a bit to think and then it would all go wrong for him. I think a move to Scotland or the Championship might be better.
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted January 3, 2019 Subscriber Posted January 3, 2019 39 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I think what Solanke demonstrated last season is that he needs a lot more time to develop. His movement and touch were very good, but he didn't seem all that confident in front of goal and would either bottle his chances or slow down a bit to think and then it would all go wrong for him. I think a move to Scotland or the Championship might be better. If we could loan him to leagues outside Britain I think that would be far better for his growth and maybe teach him other aspects of the game as well like playing in perhaps the Dutch league or Serie A, etc. Right now he's a little too raw for what we want to apply in the system the players we currently have work in. I don't think he'd be bad at Palace honestly because lets face it, they have a striker issue that isn't going to go away anytime soon and he'd have great support there as well to grow but its a big ask for a young player like you said.
Administrator Stan Posted January 4, 2019 Administrator Posted January 4, 2019 Bournemouth interested
Storts Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Is Eddie Howe a Liverpool fan? Keeps chucking ridiculous money their way. Although this does remind me of a @LFCMadLad classic - Ibe better than Sterling
LFCMike Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Wonder if this means Wilson is leaving Bournemouth?
Administrator Stan Posted January 4, 2019 Administrator Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, LFCMike said: Wonder if this means Wilson is leaving Bournemouth? I know bookies odds mean nothing but he's tipped to go to Chelsea at the moment.
Cicero Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Liverpool buy him from us for 5-7 million. Makes less than 20 appearances Liverpool sell him for 19 million plus add ons. The Premier League
The Artful Dodger Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Has levy got a brother at Liverpool now? Whoever has taken over their transfer dealings routinely gets massive fees. Barcelona and Bournemouth both been totally bummed recently.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted January 4, 2019 Subscriber Posted January 4, 2019 #LiTtLeOlDbOuRnEmOuTh. That's apparently £40m plus for Ibe, Smith and Solanke combined from them to Liverpool .
Rick Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Great business for us. Good move for him an all, and this probably does mean Wilson is off before the end of the month.
Subscriber Dan+ Posted January 4, 2019 Subscriber Posted January 4, 2019 The fees Liverpool take in are absolutely sickening
LFCMadLad Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dan said: The fees Liverpool take in are absolutely sickening Micheal Edwards, he's a fucking negotiation beast.
LFCMadLad Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Apparently we are about to sell Camacho as well who has never made a first team appearance for £8.5m.
Subscriber Dan+ Posted January 4, 2019 Subscriber Posted January 4, 2019 Ward was another one. I don't think he looks bad but god knows how we've ended up paying eight figures.
Burning Gold Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 On 02/01/2019 at 22:33, The Palace Fan said: Liverpool wanted what's been described as a ridiculously high loan fee and given his previous injury problems combined with fitness concerns we have decided to look elsewhere. Michael Edwards hard ball has backfired. Lol 3 hours ago, José said: @Rick is there an academy player worth Solanke's spot or will your club go after another Chelsea youth reject? Chelsea wanted to keep Solanke. The last two of their rejects we signed have ended up breaking goalscoring records for us, so I wouldn't really mind another To answer the question, though, Rhian Brewster is very highly rated at the club, and signed a new contract in the summer after attracting interest from Germany and coming quite close to signing. Wouldn't be at all surprised if he was convinced to stay by assurances of first team playing time/opportunities.
Honey Honey Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Bournemouth may as well take a risk as they are safe right now. If they are going to kick on from here they need to turn players into something better than where they are, they'll never buy better outright.
LFCMadLad Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 On 02/01/2019 at 22:33, The Palace Fan said: Liverpool wanted what's been described as a ridiculously high loan fee and given his previous injury problems combined with fitness concerns we have decided to look elsewhere. Michael Edwards hard ball has backfired. This post didn't age well mate.
Dave Posted January 4, 2019 Author Posted January 4, 2019 On 03/01/2019 at 18:26, Dr. Gonzo said: Honestly, I don't think he's the player you need either. The experience of playing top flight football in England would be beneficial to us and to him - but you need a proven goalscorer at this level. Last season he got a fair crack to establish himself, and while he showed plenty of promising moments... on the whole it was very clear that he's a very raw player that needs to develop more. Sure, he might develop more of a clinical edge on loan with you... but it's a pretty big ask for a young kid to give a club some much needed firepower when they've never demonstrated they can do that at that level. And paying too much for a temporary move for a player that might not work out for you in a way that can be potentially devastating to you (because you need those goals now) isn't necessarily the greatest idea. Honestly, thought it was a strange move from the get go... because we're pretty difficult with loaning players out - we ask for high loan fees and we put penalties in the contracts if that player doesn't get a certain amount of minutes (and we'd be wanting him to get minutes with you, not just sit on the bench at another club) which can be an obstacle for a player like Solanke where we don't know if he's ready for this level. And there's nothing that Solanke's shown last season that indicates he's anything more than a raw and promising player - it would have been a good opportunity, but a pretty big risk for Palace. Honestly, if I were in charge of Palace I think I'd believe that risk is too great. You need goals now and paying too much for something that's 50-50 odds (or worse) that might not give you those goals would be a massive failure. I think what Solanke demonstrated last season is that he needs a lot more time to develop. His movement and touch were very good, but he didn't seem all that confident in front of goal and would either bottle his chances or slow down a bit to think and then it would all go wrong for him. I think a move to Scotland or the Championship might be better. Yeah, I was never a fan of the deal in the first place. I'm sure he will develop in a competent Premier League striker one day, but on a short term loan deal his goal return is too much of a risk. Jermaine Defoe would have been my go to guy, but he's pretty much set to go to Rangers. I think we just need to bide our time and see what happens. Michy Batshuyai may still become available.
Lucas Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 @The Palace Fan Always saw Tammy Abraham as a potential Palace forward. Not sure why, just seemed like a natural fit there. With all the rumours circulating, you could spend the equivalent on someone far more potent than Solanke IMO. Failing that, Jay Rodriguez could also be a decent shout for about 5m less.
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