Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted February 22, 2019 Subscriber Posted February 22, 2019 Quote Chelsea have been banned from signing players in the next two transfer windows for breaching rules in relation to youth players, Fifa has announced. They have also been fined 600,000 Swiss francs, while the Football Association has been fined 510,000 Swiss francs. The ban does not prevent the release of players and will not apply to Chelsea's women's and futsal teams. The Premier League club have been given three days to appeal against the world governing body's decision. It comes following a Fifa investigation into the Blues' signing of foreign under-18 players, including former striker Bertrand Traore. Based on documents from Football Leaks, French website Mediapart claimed 19 Chelsea signings had been looked at in a three-year-long investigation. Mediapart alleged that 14 of those signings were under the age of 18. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47329293
Subscriber Pyfish+ Posted February 22, 2019 Subscriber Posted February 22, 2019 Won't affect Pulisic as he had already signed in January before being loaned back to Borussia Dortmund. Higuain was an 18 month loan so that is fine for them too. They have the right to appeal so they could be able to make transfers in the summer if the appeal isn't heard before the window opens. They can still sign players but can't play until the start of the 2020/21 season.
True Blue Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Probably will end like the Kakuta ban, if it doesn't we have 50 players on loan to fill the gaps.
6666 Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Looks like they'll be forced to use their talented young players. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Hazard now if this transfer ban sticks.
Cicero Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 We'll appeal which will give us the summer to do business.
The Artful Dodger Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Means nothing. Ridiculous how these things are circumvented by clubs.
True Blue Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 The club released an official statement: Quote Chelsea FC has today received a decision from the FIFA Disciplinary Committee concerning alleged breaches of the FIFA Regulations that relate to the international transfer of players under the age of 18. The decision imposes a transfer ban of two consecutive registration periods and a fine of 600k Swiss francs. Chelsea FC categorically refutes the findings of the FIFA Disciplinary Committee and will therefore be appealing the decision. The club wishes to emphasise that it respects the important work undertaken by FIFA in relation to the protection of minors and has fully cooperated with FIFA throughout its investigation. Initially, Chelsea FC was charged under Articles 19.1 and 19.3 in relation to 92 players. We welcome the fact that FIFA has accepted that there was no breach in relation to 63 of these players, but the club is extremely disappointed that FIFA has not accepted the club’s submissions in relation to the remaining 29 players. Chelsea FC acted in accordance with the relevant regulations and will shortly be submitting its appeal to FIFA.
Large Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 If it stands it could be blessing in disguise for them. They'll be forced to look at using some of the ridiculous number of youth players they have on their books. Could be a real turning point and start of a new dawn for the club.
Cicero Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 43 minutes ago, Large said: If it stands it could be blessing in disguise for them. They'll be forced to look at using some of the ridiculous number of youth players they have on their books. Could be a real turning point and start of a new dawn for the club. Too true. Our loan policy is also to be restricted as well. Helped us with making a profit, however it gave our board excuses to spend ridiculous amounts on average players. We need football people in this club. Not who are currently there, to which the majority of them are Roman's 'pals'.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted February 22, 2019 Subscriber Posted February 22, 2019 Just waiting for this to be reduced to a fine and a 1 year suspended ban which everyone forgets about after a few months just like that time with Barcelona or whoever it was.
Smiley Culture Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Didn’t Barca and/or Madrid flout this “ban” a few years ago and just signed players anyway? Also, what’s the point? Chelsea don’t seem to have much of a pathway between their Academy to the first team and unless they were signing the next guaranteed Messi or Ronaldo, what was the point in breaking rules?
Cicero Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 30 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said: Didn’t Barca and/or Madrid flout this “ban” a few years ago and just signed players anyway? Also, what’s the point? Chelsea don’t seem to have much of a pathway between their Academy to the first team and unless they were signing the next guaranteed Messi or Ronaldo, what was the point in breaking rules? Money
Carnivore Chris Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Smiley Culture said: Didn’t Barca and/or Madrid flout this “ban” a few years ago and just signed players anyway? No, as the rule is, you can sign players but not register them. Suarez was purchased but wasn't eligible to play for 6 months. Technically you can't ban anyone from signing, but you can ban them from registering new players.
The Artful Dodger Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Barcelona are just a verminous institution almost unparalleled now, it's amazing what that club has turned into in recent years.
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 Chelsea given a two year transfer ban - but they're appealing: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47329293 A transfer ban would be a bad thing for a side that looks like it needs a massive overhaul, so an appeal is obviously good for Chelsea because at very least it delays any transfer ban. But the problem with the absolute lack of foresight at Chelsea when it comes to decision making still exists. So unless Chelsea removes their collective head from their collective arse, I imagine delaying a transfer ban will likely mean Chelsea make some poorly thought out panic buys that don't really improve them while lawyers resolve the issue - and here's why I think that: On 21/02/2019 at 07:06, True Blue said: Last season after a title win we signed: Willy Caballero - Free Antonio Rüdiger - 29.000.000,00 Tiémoué Bakayoko - 40.000.000,00 Álvaro Morata - 58.000.000,00 Davide Zappacosta - 23.000.000,00 Danny Drinkwater - 35.000.000,00 Ross Barkley - 15.000.000,00 Emerson - 17.500.000,00 Olivier Giroud - 18.000.000,00 Total of 235 mill spent. Rudiger is good, Emerson and Zappa decent for cover, Ross squad player at best so is Giroud the rest are piss. If i spent 235mill at my job in vain with no end product i would be sacked. Not sure what is Marina still doing in her job? That's a staggering amount to spend without much to show for it. There needs to be a new Director of Football (or equivalent) at Chelsea. They're an expensively built side with no purpose and direction.
Guest Cannabis Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, The Rebel CRS said: No, as the rule is, you can sign players but not register them. Suarez was purchased but wasn't eligible to play for 6 months. Technically you can't ban anyone from signing, but you can ban them from registering new players. Turan and Vidal were same IIRC.
Carnivore Chris Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Cannabis said: Turan and Vidal were same IIRC. Yeah it was those 2 actually. Suarez couldn't play due to his suspension when signing from Liverpool.
Cicero Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 @Dr. Gonzo 2 transfer window ban. Not 2 year ban.
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cicero said: @Dr. Gonzo 2 transfer window ban. Not 2 year ban. My mistake. Still it's not great.
Cicero Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said: My mistake. Still it's not great. Reckon the appeal will reduce it to one, leaving us just January of 2020 window unavailable. Still an important summer no doubt.
Dr. Gonzo Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Large said: If it stands it could be blessing in disguise for them. They'll be forced to look at using some of the ridiculous number of youth players they have on their books. Could be a real turning point and start of a new dawn for the club. They've got a bunch of really good kids too, I honestly find it baffling they persist with players that consistently down tools when they've got a motivation problem when there's a bunch of talented kids that would probably run through walls to prove themselves. Chelsea managers are always under immediate pressure to perform so they don't feel like they can rely on youth over seasoned pros in certain circumstances. Having their hand forced to do so might actually be good for them. Or the kids will be shite and it'll be a disaster.
Lucas Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 I think -19 sounds fair to me. A minus point for every 'dodgy' signing investigated.
Bluewolf Posted February 22, 2019 Posted February 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Large said: If it stands it could be blessing in disguise for them. They'll be forced to look at using some of the ridiculous number of youth players they have on their books. Could be a real turning point and start of a new dawn for the club. You might like to think so but we all know this club too well.... they will find a way to get round using the youth somehow..
Subscriber Mel81x+ Posted February 23, 2019 Subscriber Posted February 23, 2019 Whats the point of a transfer ban really? Its not like UEFA or anyone actually strictly enforces it and then there's the appeal process which reduces it or the absurd rule of "you can sign but not register". Might as well just not have it to begin with and just fine the club an obscene amount to stop them from doing bad business. For example, Lets say club X does 100 million worth of business just fine them 40% of their transfer amount for breaking the rules and be done with it. No complications, no weird rules that allow quiet roundabout work to go on and making clubs pay obscene amounts is a great natural deterrent for them to stop. The only downside is that they'll start cooking the books but if you want to deal with the law versus your football federation then thats a course you can go on.
Honey Honey Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Looking at the list of signings from True Blue's post it looks like a transfer ban will be an improvement on actually making transfers for Chelsea.
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