Sarri to Leave Chelsea

[Cicero]

3 minutes ago, Mel81x said:

I truly believe that when he was having his personal meltdown before the second part of the season that he got into an altercation with someone at the club and in the better interest of salvaging the season they let him stay on. This was inevitable and even he must have known it as well.

Then a progressive manager needs to be appointed and continue what Sarri started. 

If Allegri or Blanc, it shows the dense thinking of our board. Back to square one with a new philosophy. 

[Bluewolf]

Seems a strange thing to say but even with all this turmoil, chopping and changing and below par seasons we keep on winning things... I feel all the while that is happening the club will feel vindicated in changing managers around even if they have had a pretty good season... winning things has never stopped the club turfing out managers before so why change that philosophy now??? 

The only thing we don't get from all of this is growth, good investment in our youth and as has already been stated on here a vision and style of play that can take us forward over the next 5 or 10 years... 

[Cicero]

This is honestly getting me angry. 

We're always left in the dark. Season after season. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

I want to know more about why he's left. Is it because he doesn't want to be there, or is it because of typical Chelsea shite - player power and the fact that Sarri didn't immediately win the league (despite meeting his league objectives and winning a European competition)?

I wouldn't be surprised if it's typical Chelsea shite. You can tell the board has the attitude of some of their fans (not you @Cicero, @Bluewolf, @True Blue, @carefreeluke - you're all grounded and realistic) that if you're not an instant success, you're a failure. He didn't immediately win the league playing swashbuckling Sarri ball, so even though he's met his league objectives and winning a trophy, some of their fans have been on Sarri's back all season over their league performance. But expecting a side that's been built for defensive football first and foremost, over several managers, can immediately transition into playing good football and immediately be successful in the league is insane.

Strange decision from Chelsea, unless they're going to go with some specialist in bringing through young players while they've got a transfer ban.

Either way, I'd never go to Chelsea if I were a good manager. You go there, you've got a job for maybe 2.5 years tops. I guess the payout is nice if you're sacked, but I think here it's a mutual termination, no?

[Cicero]

[Stan]

Could it also be to do with Chelsea's upcoming transfer ban? Losing their best talent (by far) and not being able to replace him, coupled with perhaps failing in the league next season as a result, so instead of getting potentially sacked he's taking the earliest (and maybe only) opportunity to go to Italy's best club while he has the chance to? Not to mention going back home where he feels more comfortable? 

[carefreeluke]

I haven't seen anything official on this yet.

In all his press conferences recently and throughout the season, he's given the impression that's he wanted to stay here. He's said how he loves English football and it's the best country to work in at the moment etc and he hasn't done or said anything to suggest that he wants to leave.

The only thing it could be would be the fact that maybe he's had a disagreement with the board about future plans. He said before the final that he was going to sit down with the board and talk about the future but he alluded to the fact that this is also standard procedure for every club. 

Another factor could be that a lot of match going fans for the majority of the season have been against him, not only the fans but Chelsea journalists as well. These two factors combined have been a bit of a breeding ground for negativity to surround the club. He's failed to fully get those people on his side and it's in big contrast to Conte who had both the fans and press eating out his hands in his first season. The Europa league win has gone some way in getting some of the fans and media back on Sarri's side though.

It could be simply that the Juventus job is very attractive to Sarri and that he didn't foresee a situation beforehand where that job would come available to him. Maybe it's just a particular set of circumstances that's thrown Sarri's own plans off course.

Finally, I'll say one thing if it's anything but Sarri being tempted by Juventus, the board are a joke.

[Bluewolf]

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

I want to know more about why he's left. Is it because he doesn't want to be there, or is it because of typical Chelsea shite - player power and the fact that Sarri didn't immediately win the league (despite meeting his league objectives and winning a European competition)?

I wouldn't be surprised if it's typical Chelsea shite. You can tell the board has the attitude of some of their fans (not you @Cicero, @Bluewolf, @True Blue, @carefreeluke - you're all grounded and realistic) that if you're not an instant success, you're a failure. He didn't immediately win the league playing swashbuckling Sarri ball, so even though he's met his league objectives and winning a trophy, some of their fans have been on Sarri's back all season over their league performance. But expecting a side that's been built for defensive football first and foremost, over several managers, can immediately transition into playing good football and immediately be successful in the league is insane.

Strange decision from Chelsea, unless they're going to go with some specialist in bringing through young players while they've got a transfer ban.

Either way, I'd never go to Chelsea if I were a good manager. You go there, you've got a job for maybe 2.5 years tops. I guess the payout is nice if you're sacked, but I think here it's a mutual termination, no?

Well this is what I said at the beginning of the season.. 

Seen enough of us this pre-season to know we are probably going to have a complete repeat of last season.. With only 1 serious transfer in and a shit lot of late arrivals and speculation over some players has kind of left a bit of a bad taste in the mouth.. Throw Sarri in the mix who has come in very late and we have the potential for a very hit and miss season... If, and I use the word carefully, Sarri is able to instill his football style into the side quickly we may see us pushing for 5th but I really don't see us being any better than that currently.. 

And this is what I said in response to one of your posts at the beginning of the month.... 

For me personally it was always going to be about how much influence Sarri was going to have across the course of the season and in the early stages the team were buzzing and playing some great football, it was a pleasure to watch but as the season rolled on we lost something?? Our final third finishing and our defensive lapses have cost us dear this season and let's not forget although a 3rd place finish is more than I thought we would get we are only going to be able to get that potentially due to the likes of Spurs and Arsenal hitting a brick wall results wise. 

Although we are playing some nice passing/possession football it's no good unless we can get results with it and some of Sarris tactics/substitutions have left a lot to be desired.. If it was not for Hazard I am fairly confident we may have finished outside the top 6.

On the plus side I am pleased with our passing/possession play overall but just feel that the team are one level below where Liverpool/City are currently with regards to attitude, passion and quality.. we have no real leaders in the side and that needs to be addressed, given the investment this side has had over the years you would expect us to be challenging but we are some way off that at the moment so in that regard it's disappointing,

Finishing in the CL spots and a possible Cup Final I will gratefully grab that bonus with both hands... 

It would be fair to say he achieved better than expected and getting us back in the CL was probably his only short term goal for the club and he achieved that even though I admit we stumbled over the finish line in the end and then of course winning the Cup was the icing on the cake so not sure what more could have been expected in what was to be a turnaround season in approach compared to previous management styles.. What Sarri did demonstrate is that he is a bit rigid with his approach to games/substitutions and does not seem to have much of a plan B so if any criticism could be laid at his door that would be it for me... on the plus side though he did start giving the youngsters a look in and they responded well to their opportunities until injury sidelined them... He also gave us good possession football, admittedly we had very little end product on occasions but as I stated in my earlier post I put that down to the players being one or two levels below where I feel they need to be for a club competing for all the Silverware available every season..  We just seemed to lack that extra quality when needed at times and if it was not for Hazard then it's probably fairly certain we would have finished well off the pace. A lot of that can be put down to our terrible transfer windows in failing to bring in quality players to strengthen which is bugger all to do with the manager.. 

I don't really know if they listen to the fans or if it's just a management plan to cull so many managers in short succession but it is bloody annoying... how are we supposed to build anything at all with all this chopping and changing going on?? We seem to go through this situation every season or two now and it's becoming boring and predictable... I can only assume that managers come to us for a quick payday and huge payoff because there can't be any other incentive can there??  

Sarri was a bit vocal at times throughout the season so I suspect that there was an uneasy alliance between him and the hierarchy and you never really got the impression it was all smooth sailing all the time and maybe he pressed for the move, who knows.. All I know for sure is that once again we are now looking for a new manger to start all over again next season...Just seems to me that no matter who we get or how well they do we are destined to keep throwing managers out like stale bread... 

[Dr. Gonzo]

1 minute ago, Bluewolf said:

Well this is what I said at the beginning of the season.. 

Seen enough of us this pre-season to know we are probably going to have a complete repeat of last season.. With only 1 serious transfer in and a shit lot of late arrivals and speculation over some players has kind of left a bit of a bad taste in the mouth.. Throw Sarri in the mix who has come in very late and we have the potential for a very hit and miss season... If, and I use the word carefully, Sarri is able to instill his football style into the side quickly we may see us pushing for 5th but I really don't see us being any better than that currently.. 

And this is what I said in response to one of your posts at the beginning of the month.... 

For me personally it was always going to be about how much influence Sarri was going to have across the course of the season and in the early stages the team were buzzing and playing some great football, it was a pleasure to watch but as the season rolled on we lost something?? Our final third finishing and our defensive lapses have cost us dear this season and let's not forget although a 3rd place finish is more than I thought we would get we are only going to be able to get that potentially due to the likes of Spurs and Arsenal hitting a brick wall results wise. 

Although we are playing some nice passing/possession football it's no good unless we can get results with it and some of Sarris tactics/substitutions have left a lot to be desired.. If it was not for Hazard I am fairly confident we may have finished outside the top 6.

On the plus side I am pleased with our passing/possession play overall but just feel that the team are one level below where Liverpool/City are currently with regards to attitude, passion and quality.. we have no real leaders in the side and that needs to be addressed, given the investment this side has had over the years you would expect us to be challenging but we are some way off that at the moment so in that regard it's disappointing,

Finishing in the CL spots and a possible Cup Final I will gratefully grab that bonus with both hands... 

It would be fair to say he achieved better than expected and getting us back in the CL was probably his only short term goal for the club and he achieved that even though I admit we stumbled over the finish line in the end and then of course winning the Cup was the icing on the cake so not sure what more could have been expected in what was to be a turnaround season in approach compared to previous management styles.. What Sarri did demonstrate is that he is a bit rigid with his approach to games/substitutions and does not seem to have much of a plan B so if any criticism could be laid at his door that would be it for me... on the plus side though he did start giving the youngsters a look in and they responded well to their opportunities until injury sidelined them... He also gave us good possession football, admittedly we had very little end product on occasions but as I stated in my earlier post I put that down to the players being one or two levels below where I feel they need to be for a club competing for all the Silverware available every season..  We just seemed to lack that extra quality when needed at times and if it was not for Hazard then it's probably fairly certain we would have finished well off the pace. A lot of that can be put down to our terrible transfer windows in failing to bring in quality players to strengthen which is bugger all to do with the manager.. 

I don't really know if they listen to the fans or if it's just a management plan to cull so many managers in short succession but it is bloody annoying... how are we supposed to build anything at all with all this chopping and changing going on?? We seem to go through this situation every season or two now and it's becoming boring and predictable... I can only assume that managers come to us for a quick payday and huge payoff because there can't be any other incentive can there??  

Sarri was a bit vocal at times throughout the season so I suspect that there was an uneasy alliance between him and the hierarchy and you never really got the impression it was all smooth sailing all the time and maybe he pressed for the move, who knows.. All I know for sure is that once again we are now looking for a new manger to start all over again next season...Just seems to me that no matter who we get or how well they do we are destined to keep throwing managers out like stale bread... 

With Sarri, I think it seemed like he was always under pressure as soon as things didn't look rosy. The start of the season, you looked great and I don't think many people doubted his quality. But with the imbalance of the squad, it would have been naïve to expect that to carry on all season under a new manager imparting a new style on your squad (which is something you were pretty clearly aware of, as was @Cicero - probably more of you on here as well, but you and Cicero are the 2 that pop out at me with that opinion immediately in responding to this post).

And it wasn't just the fans. It seemed like the media pressure was pretty high, and when that happens I often wonder if there isn't someone else at the club that's trying to sow their dissatisfaction with the current manager by getting the media to spread it for them. And with Chelsea I wonder that a lot, because of the rampant player power that has resulted in so many managers getting sacked. But for much of the season, it seemed like Chelsea was being threatened with the sack and then very quickly the media would change their tune if things turned around, and then do it all over again once things no longer looked rosy for Chelsea.

So if it was Sarri's decision to fuck off, I don't blame him, the pressure on him was immense and it was delusional. But it was last week he was saying after the final he'd have to talk with the Chelsea board and ask them if they were happy with him - he said if they weren't happy, he'd leave. So maybe that's why it's a mutual termination.

It says something about Chelsea that they're able to keep winning despite being run so fucking poorly. But are things going to be different now that they don't have Terry, Lampard, Drogba, and/or Hazard? I imagine things will be different as without Hazard I don't think you've not got anyone world class, or close to it. And I think having excellent players has allowed Chelsea to be successful despite being run by people who seem to get their footballing views from Twitter and Facebook.

And yeah, I absolutely think managers agree to come to Chelsea because of the payoff. Well, not just the payoff, Chelsea are a club where traditionally a good manager takes a pretty safe gamble. They know they'll get a ridiculous sum of money for being the coach of Chelsea, even if only temporarily. And traditionally they're inheriting one of the best squads in England, so they've got a good chance to pad their CVs. Even in his departure, Sarri padded his resume. Third place with a squad that I don't think is the 3rd best in the league and winning the Europa League against Emery, a specialist in the tournament, is going to look pretty good to his employers I think.

I wonder if he'll come back for Jorginho when he's at Juve.

[Cicero]

I'll tell you one thing. The same fans that were dying for Sarri to get sacked and have Lampard come in, will be the first to turn on Lampard when results don't go our way. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

Just now, Cicero said:

I'll tell you one thing. The same fans that were dying for Sarri to get sacked and have Lampard come in, will be the first to turn on Lampard when results don't go our way. 

Can't wait for keyboard warrior idiots to come up with insults (that likely won't make any sense) to be telling Chelsea legend Fat Frank that he doesn't know what it means to be a true blue or win with Chelsea 

[ScoRoss]

8 hours ago, Stan said:

Could it also be to do with Chelsea's upcoming transfer ban? Losing their best talent (by far) and not being able to replace him, coupled with perhaps failing in the league next season as a result, so instead of getting potentially sacked he's taking the earliest (and maybe only) opportunity to go to Italy's best club while he has the chance to? Not to mention going back home where he feels more comfortable? 

Safari is the man who said:

"Transfer Market is the refuge of the weak. It is for those who can't train their players. I'm a coach. Give me a group of players and I will coach them."

So probably not. But there's definitely something he is unhappy about at that club.

[LFCMadLad]

44 minutes ago, ScoRoss said:

Safari is the man who said:

"Transfer Market is the refuge of the weak. It is for those who can't train their players. I'm a coach. Give me a group of players and I will coach them."

So probably not. But there's definitely something he is unhappy about at that club.

Who's safari?

[Bluewolf]

8 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

So if it was Sarri's decision to fuck off, I don't blame him, the pressure on him was immense and it was delusional. But it was last week he was saying after the final he'd have to talk with the Chelsea board and ask them if they were happy with him - he said if they weren't happy, he'd leave. So maybe that's why it's a mutual termination.

It says something about Chelsea that they're able to keep winning despite being run so fucking poorly. But are things going to be different now that they don't have Terry, Lampard, Drogba, and/or Hazard? I imagine things will be different as without Hazard I don't think you've not got anyone world class, or close to it. And I think having excellent players has allowed Chelsea to be successful despite being run by people who seem to get their footballing views from Twitter and Facebook.

There was talk about Sarri having the Cup win as his last chance to save his job, don't know were that came from but it was enough for him to respond with "If it's just one result that will save my job then sack me now" and then after the win we got this.. 

 

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"I need to talk to the club and make sure I know what I can do for Chelsea and what Chelsea can do for me," said Sarri, who took charge last July. "I love the Premier League and I'm lucky I'm at Chelsea but at the end of each season you have to sit down and talk.

"In my opinion, I deserve to stay at Chelsea but my opinion is not enough."

 

 

Make of that what you will but it did not sound like a man rushing for the door, the next day I am reading that his agent was at Chelsea to negotiate his exit??? 

On the other matter about us winning despite all the up's and down's I see it the same way, we have had a good backbone that has seen us through and over the line more than once but bit by bit the side is becoming weaker and unless some investment in new talent is brought in to run alongside the youth then I fear we will end up like Arsenal under Wenger, a club that is satisfied just getting a CL place and anything else coming being a bonus... We are miles off where City and Liverpool are at the moment so any title charges we be more relient on either of them fucking up and having shit seasons than us suddenly being top notch... 

[CaaC (John)+]

TRANSFER NEWS: Chelsea news: Blues fans DEMAND shock replacement for Maurizio Sarri - NOT Frank Lampard

CHELSEA manager Mauirizo Sarri looks set to leave Stamford Bridge after he reportedly told Stamford Bridge officials that he wants to leave.

By DANIEL BLACKHAM

PUBLISHED: 04:49, Sat, Jun 1, 2019 | UPDATED: 08:13, Sat, Jun 1, 2019

The 60-year-old apparently wants a return to Italy, as he has been linked with the vacant Juventus job.

Massimiliano Allegri departed Juve at the end of the season after five years, during which time he won Serie A every year.

He also won four out of five Coppa Italia titles and two Supercoppa Italiana trophies.

Despite a solid first season in English football, in which Sarri guided Chelsea to a third-place finish in the Premier League and won the Europa League, he looks set to leave in the summer.

Sarri secured his first major trophy as a manager on Wednesday, as his side beat Arsenal 4-1 to win the Europa League in Baku.

But the Italian boss was never properly warmed to by Blues fans, and apparently told club director Marina Granovskaia that he wants to leave during a meeting on Friday.

He is rumoured to be replaced by Frank Lampard of Derby County, as Chelsea look to follow Manchester United in appointing a former player as their manager.

However, after news emerged of Sarri’s declaration that he wants to leave, Blues fans took to Twitter to demand Chelsea hire Allegri over the former midfielder.

The 40-year-old has just completed his first season in management, as he guided Derby to the Championship Play-Off final, where his side lost 2-1 to Aston Villa.

Regardless of his inexperience, he appears one of Roman Abramovich’s top targets to take over at Stamford Bridge.

But Chelsea fans believe the 51-year-old should be the preferred option.

One fan wrote: “Max Allegri is a better option than Lampard.”

“There are genuinely people who’d rather have Lampard than Allegri?” another asked.

One tweeted: “Allegri is a good coach he just was at Juve too long. Miles better than Lampard.”

“We need Allegri, it’s too early for Lampard,” another wrote.

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1134795/Chelsea-news-Blues-fans-DEMAND-shock-replacement-Maurizio-Sarri-Frank-Lampard

 

[SirBalon]

Sarri may have said what he said on the way transfers are used for many coaches to put make-up on their deficiencies (those that just keep on replacing players that is), but he's at Chelsea Football Club and this is something different. He knows he hasn't got a first XI that can ever reproduce exactly what he wants on that field of play game in game out and I would suspect hes a few payers short of a particular style in certain positions to be able to get as close as possible.

So I come back to the point he's at Chelsea FC and that means that if he doesn't challenge for the Premier League title next season (a genuine challenge) without counting cup competitions because you can be unlucky and that's it in those, then he's out of the door at Chelsea anyway. We all know that's how it's eternally functioned at that club and something tells me they don't give a hoot in the boardroom as to planning longterm and creating or evolving a football philosophy.

So the Juve job has come up unexpectedly with Allegri resigning and if it's true he's been oferred it and taking all of this into account. Tell me WHO in their right mind would let this train pass?

The only question mark I put on that particular job selection from his personal perspective is that he hates Juve or that's what the Neapolitans have always thought. 

[Harry]

4 hours ago, ScoRoss said:

Safari is the man who said:

"Transfer Market is the refuge of the weak. It is for those who can't train their players. I'm a coach. Give me a group of players and I will coach them."

So probably not. But there's definitely something he is unhappy about at that club.

Probably the fact he kept getting asked at press conferences whether he thought he deserved to stay on as Chelsea manager even after guiding the club to third, and even again still after winning the Europa league final...

I'm honestly sorry he's gone. I loved the character of Sarri and I felt he'd really put Chelsea back in the mix with a bit more time.

[Honey Honey]

He's used Chelsea as a stepping stone to Juventus

[CaaC (John)+]

Sarri requests Chelsea exit as agreement reached with Juventus

Romeo Agresti

https://www.goal.com/en/news/sarri-requests-chelsea-exit-as-agreement-reached-with/1d5udw9du4zfr1tw99kurn15h8

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Sarri informed Marina Granovskaia of his decision in a meeting on Friday and the Blues director promised to discuss his future with club owner Roman Abramovich. (Sky Italy - in Italian)

31 maggio 2019

Maurizio Sarri alla Juve: l'incontro con il Chelsea dà fiducia ai bianconeri. Le news

Giornata di incontri a Londra: prima quello tra Sarri e il suo agente Ramadani, poi quello tra l'allenatore e Marina Granovskaia. Sarri ha rinnovato la sua richiesta di tornare in Italia, il club inglese prende atto e chiede qualche giorno di tempo. Ma è pronta la soluzione Lampard

Ore decisive per il futuro di Maurizio Sarri. L'allenatore, fresco del trionfo in Europa League con il Chelsea, si è visto con il suo agente, Fali Ramadani, il quale lo ha "preparato" a un incontro che poi l'allenatore ha avuto individualmente con Marina Granovskaia, plenipotenziaria di Abramovich per i Blues. In questo colloquio Sarri ha ribadito un concetto e una richiesta espressi già circa un mese fa: la sua decisione di lasciare il Chelsea e tornare in Italia. I motivi che stanno dietro questa volontà sono tecnici, personali e familiari, dettati anche dal suo modo di vedere il calcio. Quindi si tratta di una decisione che aveva già preso e che ha ribadito nell'incontro con Marina. Si è trattato di un confronto caratterizzato da grande complicità tra le parti, nessuna freddezza. Marina ha preso atto della richiesta (o esigenza) di Sarri e ha promesso di parlarne in tempi brevi con Abramovich, chiedendo qualche giorno di tempo. Anche per trovare un sostituto, che in realtà il Chelsea avrebbe già in mano, che risponde al nome di Frankie Lampard. Quindi nei prossimi giorni il Chelsea comunicherà a Sarri e al suo entourage la decisione finale e le eventuali condizioni di uscita. Sarri (e la Juve) si aspettano ovviamente che non ci siano ostacoli e nemmeno indennizzi particolari visti i rapporti tra le parti in causa. Anche oggi Sarri e la Juve sono rimasti in stretto contatto, mantenendosi reciprocamente la promessa di matrimonio e la volontà di passare alle firme quando ci sarà il "via libera definitivo". Quindi servirà qualche giorno per completare l'iter, al netto di eventuali capricci (economici) di Abramovich. Che ad oggi però sono un'eventualità improbabile.

https://sport.sky.it/calciomercato/serie-a/2019/05/31/juve-sarri-news.html?intcmp=hp-sport_hero_main-text_null

[Chaaay AFC]

Think it's smart from Sarri, can see Chelsea falling off a cliff without Hazard next season and if the transfer ban does maintain. He's done the minimum there and hasn't truly affected his reputation, plus Juve are in such a better position. 

[Smiley Culture]

I don’t blame him for wanting to leave in all honesty. Given he’s not exactly popular amongst the fans and they’re likely to be heading into a transfer ban this summer, he can leave now with his head held quite high and his reputation pretty intact. 

While I’ve not always understood his philosophy this season and it’s had it’s ups and downs a third place finish and a European trophy is about as good as you could expect as a Chelsea fan this season, for me. 

[Cicero]

The guy that broke the news is close to Sarri, but unreliable. So there is still slight hope

[Dr. Gonzo]

1 hour ago, Cicero said:

The guy that broke the news is close to Sarri, but unreliable. So there is still slight hope

What you’re going to sign Courtois back and sign Alisson from us?

[DNA]

The first time a manager has left Chelsea in that era, rather than being sacked. If that isn't a wake up call for the club I don't know what is.

[Harry]

Wowee