Dr. Gonzo Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 I think it’s funny you can be dogshit for most of your time at a club and then still remain linked with giants (and also PSG and Man City) The most talented thing about Pogba is his PR team
Devil-Dick Willie Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 I have 2 takes. The second is cuntish. 1. If I were united, I would absolutely be fine with selling him to Liverpool. He is a poisoned chalice who can only damage the club. 2. If you think Pogba would improve Liverpools midfield, or even belongs at that club at all, you don't understand football. At the very very least, you don't understand what makes Liverpool and city so much better than the rest of the league. He doesn't improve their starting 11,(beyond probably being a better option than Henderson against teams who won't press them back) He's WAY too expensive and high profile to be a squad option. Even if United offered him up for 50 mil, I'd hard pass.
Dr. Gonzo Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 I wouldn’t even take him on a free transfer with pay as you play wages
DeadLinesman Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 53 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: I have 2 takes. The second is cuntish. 1. If I were united, I would absolutely be fine with selling him to Liverpool. He is a poisoned chalice who can only damage the club. 2. If you think Pogba would improve Liverpools midfield, or even belongs at that club at all, you don't understand football. At the very very least, you don't understand what makes Liverpool and city so much better than the rest of the league. He doesn't improve their starting 11,(beyond probably being a better option than Henderson against teams who won't press them back) He's WAY too expensive and high profile to be a squad option. Even if United offered him up for 50 mil, I'd hard pass. This. Like Grealish, he’d play 5 minutes before the manager realised that he's actually not very good and doesn’t work for the team.
Happy Blue Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said: This. Like Grealish, he’d play 5 minutes before the manager realised that he's actually not very good and doesn’t work for the team. This is why i'm not sure if Pep would want him, we play a high pressure game so having a lazy cunt in midfield would mess his system up, the reason Sane didn't play so much despite being better than Sterling
Administrator Stan Posted May 9, 2022 Author Administrator Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: I have 2 takes. The second is cuntish. 1. If I were united, I would absolutely be fine with selling him to Liverpool. He is a poisoned chalice who can only damage the club. 2. If you think Pogba would improve Liverpools midfield, or even belongs at that club at all, you don't understand football. At the very very least, you don't understand what makes Liverpool and city so much better than the rest of the league. He doesn't improve their starting 11,(beyond probably being a better option than Henderson against teams who won't press them back) He's WAY too expensive and high profile to be a squad option. Even if United offered him up for 50 mil, I'd hard pass. Yep, especially #2. He's far too lazy for a side like Liverpool and managed by Klopp. He just doesn't really fit the bill for what you'd expect of a player at Liverpool.
Danny Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 I've always thought that Pogba would be a much better player if he was managed by Klopp or Pep, world class coaches that can improve players beyond what we thought they could achieve. Pogba has definitely underachieved and underperformed at United but a part of successful recruitment is about identifying players who are struggling for one reason or another at another club but that have ability to react positively to a different style of coaching. But we'll see. Maybe this is Man City's 3rd move to force United into a long term deal with someone who is definitely not worth bringing in.
Happy Blue Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 Could it work? ..if he doesn't run he's arse off we could have him bunk with Mendy for a night Foden - Haaland - Silva Pogba - De Jong - De Bruyne
Dr. Gonzo Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Danny said: I've always thought that Pogba would be a much better player if he was managed by Klopp or Pep, world class coaches that can improve players beyond what we thought they could achieve. Pogba has definitely underachieved and underperformed at United but a part of successful recruitment is about identifying players who are struggling for one reason or another at another club but that have ability to react positively to a different style of coaching. But we'll see. Maybe this is Man City's 3rd move to force United into a long term deal with someone who is definitely not worth bringing in. Pogba's weaknesses I think are why managers like Klopp and Pep would be weary of signing him or a player like him. United have needed someone in their midfield to stand up and be counted when times are tough and honestly whenever times are truly tough for United Pogba's been anonymous. For Klopp, I think he just doesn't have the right mentality to play for us - and he certainly wouldn't work in our midfield 3 I think... and he's pretty insistent on sticking with his 4-3-3 (and tbh it works great with the players we have, so why add a player that'd require a midfield built around him?) Pep's got more wiggle room with his tactics for midfielders, but I just don't think Pogba would be a good addition for them either. Don't get me wrong, I think he'd look a hell of a lot better in City's midfield than United's - he's got a track record of doing well in already world class midfields. But I just don't think he's any better than what they've currently got and if they're looking for players that'll give them the edge in a CL... I just don't think he's the right player for them to add, you need players that don't give up when things get tough for that. I can't see him turning the tide for City after Madrid scored with their second shot on target to force extra time - I could definitely see him letting his head drop and being a part of the midfield that didn't really have an answer to Madrid, though.
Spike Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: I have 2 takes. The second is cuntish. 1. If I were united, I would absolutely be fine with selling him to Liverpool. He is a poisoned chalice who can only damage the club. 2. If you think Pogba would improve Liverpools midfield, or even belongs at that club at all, you don't understand football. At the very very least, you don't understand what makes Liverpool and city so much better than the rest of the league. He doesn't improve their starting 11,(beyond probably being a better option than Henderson against teams who won't press them back) He's WAY too expensive and high profile to be a squad option. Even if United offered him up for 50 mil, I'd hard pass. 3. Pogba joins Liverpool and turns into the reincarnation of Zinedine Zidane and wins five Balon d'Ors in a row.
Harry Posted May 9, 2022 Posted May 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: I wouldn’t even take him on a free transfer with pay as you play wages 100% agree. He's like Balotelli. Immensely talented player, but by this point has bounced around a few clubs now and also proven to be a significant risk. I wouldn't want us to sign him at all, and definitely not for any fee. He's an amazing physical specimen, and you notice him when he plays well. But I just think he's a big ego with a risk of poisoning the dressing room, and so much of our success is how well we gel. Not a risk we need to take imo.
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted May 9, 2022 Subscriber Posted May 9, 2022 Wouldn't have him at FC Isle of Man.
Administrator Stan Posted June 1, 2022 Author Administrator Posted June 1, 2022 Officially leaving Man Utd. Party time for @CaaC (John) and @DeadLinesman.
Danny Posted June 1, 2022 Posted June 1, 2022 It’s mad to think that he wasn’t even the worst signing United made within that price range. United expected a talisman signing, I think they got someone that seems to mainly excel when other great players are around him. Pirlo, Vidal and Marchisio were a great midfield and Pogba was an all around we that fitted into that because you had a specialist in passing, defending and transitioning already there. For me the team that he will excel with the most are the team that has a similar type of midfield option. I think he’d do better at Madrid than PSG because Madrid already have quality players in that midfield so that the weight of expectation isn’t on him completely.
Subscriber CaaC (John)+ Posted June 1, 2022 Subscriber Posted June 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, Stan said: Officially leaving Man Utd. Party time for @CaaC (John) and @DeadLinesman.
DeadLinesman Posted June 1, 2022 Posted June 1, 2022 Contributed to the square root of fuck all over 6 years. Thank fuck he’s gone. Absolute cancer.
Rick Posted June 1, 2022 Posted June 1, 2022 He’s massively to blame for his poor performances but in the last two or three seasons he has had absolute dog shit like McTominay, Fred & Matic in midfield with him. He was never going to thrive.
DeadLinesman Posted June 1, 2022 Posted June 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Rick said: He’s massively to blame for his poor performances but in the last two or three seasons he has had absolute dog shit like McTominay, Fred & Matic in midfield with him. He was never going to thrive. Gerrard thrived with some awful players. He’s got no fucking excuse. If you only look good when the players around you are better, then you’re fucking shite.
Bluewolf Posted June 1, 2022 Posted June 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said: Gerrard thrived with some awful players. He’s got no fucking excuse. If you only look good when the players around you are better, then you’re fucking shite. Agreed, If anything you should be the standout player when surrounded by lesser mortals not drop down to their level...
Danny Posted June 1, 2022 Posted June 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rick said: He’s massively to blame for his poor performances but in the last two or three seasons he has had absolute dog shit like McTominay, Fred & Matic in midfield with him. He was never going to thrive. 5 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said: Gerrard thrived with some awful players. He’s got no fucking excuse. If you only look good when the players around you are better, then you’re fucking shite. I think the truth is somewhere between your points. United massively overpaid and made him a talisman signing, but if you look at why he done well for Juve, won a World Cup for France, he requires talent around him to perform at his best. The problem is when your highlight reel is you scoring screamers your value will most likely increase beyond what it should be. He's just not up to scratch with players like Gerrard who were machines.
Rick Posted June 1, 2022 Posted June 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said: Gerrard thrived with some awful players. He’s got no fucking excuse. If you only look good when the players around you are better, then you’re fucking shite. Fair enough.
DeadLinesman Posted June 1, 2022 Posted June 1, 2022 Goldbridge can fuck off on a free with him as well. Back to Forest you cunt.
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