Generic Watford Sack Another Manager Thread

[Lucas]

Sweet. That's Norwich and Watford done.

One more spot to survive.

[CaaC (John)+]

1 hour ago, Stan said:

 

I wonder what the odds are on him doing another Leicester, keep them up and winning an EPL Title? 

[Guest]

Watford have had 14 managers in 10 years. To be honest I thought it would have been more than that 

[Smiley Culture]

Just found out Ranieri managed Fulham. I would have sworn that never happened. 

[Spike]

On 03/10/2021 at 05:26, DeadLinesman said:

Watford really do have the cuntiest of owners.

[Guest]

How long till he gets sacked then? Will he get to the end of the season?

[Devil]

4 minutes ago, Gunnersauraus said:

How long till he gets sacked then? Will he get to the end of the season?

I'm going to go January, they will want to give a new manager the transfer window to try and save them.

They will end the season on their third manager.

[Honey Honey]

All this relegation talk

[Ploughendplonker]

As others have said, what exactly do the Watford owners expect? I'd say they were hoping they'd do a Leicester 15/16, but unless I'm mistaken I'm pretty sure their scattergun approach to sacking managers predates this. 

[Dr. Gonzo]

I dunno why any managers would agree to work for Watford.

Nobody really knows what the expectation is for their managers, the only thing I really expect is that they’ll sack every manager they hire.

17 hours ago, Gunnersauraus said:

How long till he gets sacked then? Will he get to the end of the season?

I think he’ll get a transfer window to make some changes, but however long he lasts after that… is anyone’s guess.

I think if their results stay as they have been, he won’t finish the season. If he keeps them up, he’ll probably get a few months into nexts season.

[Dan+]

I've tried to understand their approach and I don't think it's as disgraceful as most think - I think it's quite well established at this point that if you go there there's a good chance you're out the door in the next year. I don't think any manager is daft enough to go there expecting anything long term.

Ranieri seems an odd one to me though. I mean me of all people shouldn't be saying that but he's been pretty hopeless since May 2016.

[Stan]

Don't get why you'd choose your latter years in life to be in Watford, whether that's to do with football management or not  

[Dan+]

People like Ranieri just never want to give it up even when they probably should. See also: Neil Warnock.

[Guest]

Ranieri hasn't started and he is already fifth favourite to be sacked

[Stan]

Already facing the boot... 

 

 

[Dan+]

They've been even worse under him than the last bloke to be honest. I think he ought to just retire now really.

[Danny]

They get a lot of stick for their approach but I think it’s reductive to lump what’s happened this season in with their previous successes using it. I’ve had this discussion before on here but the last 7 years for Watford have been the best they’ve had in over 3 decades, that’s including 5 years in the Prem, 2 promotions from the Championship and an FA Cup final.

How can you blame them being shit on their approach to head coach appointments when the same approach has helped brought their most successful period as a club in 30+ years? It doesn’t make sense.

That’s not to say that they haven’t made dodgy appointments of late or that some decisions over the last 2-3 years haven’t set them up to stay in the Prem. But for Watford even being a yo-yo team is a success, it’s not the massive failure it’s made out to be. But there are definitely criticisms to be made of their inability to retain Premier League status that they were able to do for 4 seasons in a row. Those 4 seasons they had 4 separate head coaches, so clearly the criticism of them constantly appointing new coaches alone doesn’t make sense.

Would actually be interesting to see what a Watford fan/journo who’s paid attention to the running of the club thinks of the issue, for me it seems to revolve more around the decline of Troy Deeney and his eventual move away.

[Stan]

And there it is... 

 

[LFCMike]

Who'd have thought Norwich would get a manager sacked two weeks in the trot.

[JoshBRFC+]

Allardyce? 

[Bluebird Hewitt]

24 minutes ago, JoshBRFC said:

Allardyce? 

Mick McCarthy's free. 

[Devil-Dick Willie]

I'd want the Watford job. 

Step 1, get hired, 2 year, multi million pound contract

Step 2. Become sacked 3 weeks later because the rabble of useless players control the dressing room, like a less talented 2010s era Chelski

Step 3. Get paid out, fuck, go get a different gig and you're basically on a double wage! I'm surprised Pardew hasn't gone in for them 

[Dave]

On 22/01/2022 at 15:12, Danny said:

They get a lot of stick for their approach but I think it’s reductive to lump what’s happened this season in with their previous successes using it. I’ve had this discussion before on here but the last 7 years for Watford have been the best they’ve had in over 3 decades, that’s including 5 years in the Prem, 2 promotions from the Championship and an FA Cup final.

How can you blame them being shit on their approach to head coach appointments when the same approach has helped brought their most successful period as a club in 30+ years? It doesn’t make sense.

That’s not to say that they haven’t made dodgy appointments of late or that some decisions over the last 2-3 years haven’t set them up to stay in the Prem. But for Watford even being a yo-yo team is a success, it’s not the massive failure it’s made out to be. But there are definitely criticisms to be made of their inability to retain Premier League status that they were able to do for 4 seasons in a row. Those 4 seasons they had 4 separate head coaches, so clearly the criticism of them constantly appointing new coaches alone doesn’t make sense.

Would actually be interesting to see what a Watford fan/journo who’s paid attention to the running of the club thinks of the issue, for me it seems to revolve more around the decline of Troy Deeney and his eventual move away.

From memory the approach came after they pointed to research that suggested a coaching regime would have its most successful period within the first nine months. Its not an approach I'd want my club to take but if its bought them relative success as you've pointed out let them crack on with it.

[Danny]

4 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said:

From memory the approach came after they pointed to research that suggested a coaching regime would have its most successful period within the first nine months. Its not an approach I'd want my club to take but if its bought them relative success as you've pointed out let them crack on with it.

I feel like, and I could be wrong, there must have been some changes at DoF and above for it to start going down hill. That and the lack of a leader like Deeney

[Dave]

Just now, Danny said:

I feel like, and I could be wrong, there must have been some changes at DoF and above for it to start going down hill. That and the lack of a leader like Deeney

I remember they went through a phase where the ex-Brentford bloke Andy Scott was there and people were praising the signings. He left just before the FA Cup final.