Chaaay AFC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Meh, massively disappointed overall. The only outstanding episode for me in this season was 3 and even that had it's issues. Massive kudos on the effects and the acting it was absolutely phenomenal but the story just didn't match it. I kind of feel like Jon being Rhaegar's son wasn't used as well as it could have been as well, genuinely very wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chaaay AFC said: Meh, massively disappointed overall. The only outstanding episode for me in this season was 3 and even that had it's issues. Massive kudos on the effects and the acting it was absolutely phenomenal but the story just didn't match it. I kind of feel like Jon being Rhaegar's son wasn't used as well as it could have been as well, genuinely very wasted. Me too. Fairly certain Martin wanted to tie this with the prince that was promised prophecy, but the directors went another route and only made it become the domino effect to Dany's madness. Still, I like how they ended it. (still overjoyed he didn't die) The whole point of Jon going back to the Night's Watch was the symbolism. Jon, in every sense, is the protector of the realm. The only real threat now is the monsters that lie behind the wall. What gave Jon purpose was serving, and Bran knew that when he sent him back there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted May 20, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted May 20, 2019 I liked it. I feared a disastrous ending and weeks of a large backlash across the internet but I felt that to be a satisfying end to the story. The twist being Bran on the throne and a shift to some sort of electorate succession. The Drogon and Jon scene was weird admittedly but Drogon destroyed the Iron Throne. I assume we're meant to take from that that he somehow accepts that it was the lust for the throne that led to Dany's death rather than Jon? Flimsy but whatever, I've done enough complaining about this season. The only other slightly unexplained bit was the Unsullied leaving for Naath but no acknowledgement of the Dothraki? Not important though really. The rest of the characters all end up where you'd pretty much say is correct. I didn't really get the last scene with Jon. Great to see him reunited with Ghost after the weird non-farewell in episode 4, but was he going north to stay there and fuck the wall? Just escorting the wildlings North? As long as he's with Tormund and Ghost that's fine. Overall I have to say that the end to the story is solid, it just hasn't been told brilliantly on this final stretch but they've saved it at the end to an extent. I look forward to reading the written version where the author doesn't need to prioritise big battle scenes and shock moments over good dialogue and story telling. Mixed emotions right now, it's strange to think that it's over but I'm glad they redeemed themselves with a solid final episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaaay AFC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Cicero said: Me too. Fairly certain Martin wanted to tie this with the prince that was promised prophecy, but the directors went another route and only made it become the domino effect to Dany's madness. Still, I like how they ended it. (still overjoyed he didn't die) The whole point of Jon going back to the Night's Watch was the symbolism. Jon, in every sense, is the protector of the realm. The only real threat now is the monsters that lie behind the wall. What gave Jon purpose was serving, and Bran knew that when he sent him back there. It was utterly pointless in the end, genuinely could have created a similar affect without him being a Targaryen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) I liked Ser Davos suggesting the Unsullied take lands and form a house in Westeros. A house that can produce no heirs Edited May 20, 2019 by Dr. Gonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) Load of fucking crap.I want to personally thank the two Davids for ruining the show. Cheers cunts, hope your star wars films bomb. Edited May 20, 2019 by Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3:20 it’s perfect sync with the lyrics 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just another democracy is great wankfest. FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Just another democracy is great wankfest. FFS What, Westeros's government structure by the end of the story? It's still a feudal structure, but with the Lord's having say in who is King (and by the looks of it, still has basically absolute power) - so an oligarchy mixed in with feudal society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted May 20, 2019 Moderator Share Posted May 20, 2019 Let's just hope that George RR Martin finishes the books and we get the conclusion we deserve. This show has been all over the place since the books ended, and it dumbed down a whole lot. It had it's decent moments, like, in the last episode I really felt for Tyrion when he found Jaime's and Cersei's bodies, but all in all it was meh. Not at all what you would have expected if you're used to the standard of the show from Season 1 to 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tommy said: Let's just hope that George RR Martin finishes the books and we get the conclusion we deserve. This show has been all over the place since the books ended, and it dumbed down a whole lot. It had it's decent moments, like, in the last episode I really felt for Tyrion when he found Jaime's and Cersei's bodies, but all in all it was meh. Not at all what you would have expected if you're used to the standard of the show from Season 1 to 4. Even that scene doesn't really make sense. Jamie and Cersei were at the top of the pile of bricks, they weren't standing on a pile of bricks before the roof collapsed... why weren't they at the bottom? And if they wanted that powerful on screen moment of him finding his brother and sister and mourning their deaths... they probably should have killed them in a different way, as opposed to revealing it in a way that... really just doesn't make sense. Whole lotta continuity errors in a show that was once famous for it's fantastic writing. Honestly, it's a huge shame. The cast and staff of the show deserved better than the sloppy writing it received in it's last season (I'm willing to forgive the standard of previous seasons, I think Season 7 got a lot of slack from fans despite pacing and writing issues... because the expectation was it was a season setting up more for the final season. HBO shows and unsatisfying final seasons, though. I don't know why I expected anything different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted May 20, 2019 Moderator Share Posted May 20, 2019 I know the author of the books is American, and it was directed by Americans. But to me, not only because of the accents, it always had a slight British touch. And in the end, the show was so fucking Americanized. They should have hired some genius British writers when the book material ended. The cleverness was missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, Tommy said: I know the author of the books is American, and it was directed by Americans. But to me, not only because of the accents, it always had a slight British touch. And in the end, the show was so fucking Americanized. They should have hired some genius British writers when the book material ended. The cleverness was missing. Brb showing this post to everyone in my office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said: What, Westeros's government structure by the end of the story? It's still a feudal structure, but with the Lord's having say in who is King (and by the looks of it, still has basically absolute power) - so an oligarchy mixed in with feudal society. They picked a guy who doesn't die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Tommy said: I know the author of the books is American, and it was directed by Americans. But to me, not only because of the accents, it always had a slight British touch. And in the end, the show was so fucking Americanized. They should have hired some genius British writers when the book material ended. The cleverness was missing. I'd say it adjusted its writing style as it became more and more mainstream. Most great tv shows have been American but they've never been as mainstream as game of thrones was by the time of seasons 7 and 8. They went a bit mainstream tv network in plot development rather than premium cable show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Rewatching this last season helps, there’s so much you miss it initially. Dany was a dragon and eventually became a tyrant herself although her intention was good her drive to get there made her no different. Jon put duty above love and he is the shield that guards the realms of men. Bran wont die, knows all history and can’t be corrupted. The starks started out as weak pawns in the game, by the end the 4 are all that’s standing 2 are monarchs and two are free to roam and do whatever makes them happy. I think this will be GRRM’s ending I wouldn’t bet against it now tbh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Artful Dodger Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Just another democracy is great wankfest. FFS More of a Holy Roman Empire style electorate than democracy. Also the usual anti-Revolution message you get from anything American was there. It was okay, all a bit 'nice' though. I can see why the true fans would not be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Bran The Broken is a shit name. Why not just go ahead and call him Bran The Disabled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy Posted May 21, 2019 Moderator Share Posted May 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, 6666 said: Bran The Broken is a shit name. Why not just go ahead and call him Bran The Disabled? Brandicapped. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Bran the spastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Bran only told Jon about his parentage to drive Dany crazy so he could take the throne. He let The people die. Best player in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Viva la FCB+ Posted May 21, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted May 21, 2019 I cant really think of a show that had that far of a drop in quality, through 5/6 seasons it was arguably the best ever and to see how this last season ended is just bloody tragic. The last episode wasnt even much of a let down; I expected very little and sure enough thats what we got. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgnisExcubitor Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, Viva la FCB said: I cant really think of a show that had that far of a drop in quality, through 5/6 seasons it was arguably the best ever and to see how this last season ended is just bloody tragic. The last episode wasnt even much of a let down; I expected very little and sure enough thats what we got. My sentiments exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ Posted May 21, 2019 Subscriber Share Posted May 21, 2019 I have my issues with the season but I don't know what else people want from the last episode. It's hardly going to be jam packed with action, this one is more about resolutions and that's what we got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Cicero said: Bran the spastic He doesn't have cerebral palsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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