Is this the start of a trophy laden spell for Liverpool?

[Smiley Culture 1,382]

Firmino, Salah, Mane in the side, no after effects of the loss of Coutinho, Klopp as gaffer, a Champions League Final, Naby Keita coming in.

It got me thinking, is this the start of a trophy laden spell for Liverpool?

[Stan 11,584]

6 minutes ago, Smiley Culture said:

Firmino, Salah, Mane in the side, no after effects of the loss of Coutinho, Klopp as gaffer, a Champions League Final, Naby Keita coming in.

It got me thinking, is this the start of a trophy laden spell for Liverpool?

few League Cups to follow. Maybe an FA Cup. 

[Mel81x 2,321]

I think we need one/two more players in defense to help the rotation better even though Clyne is back in the fold because I honestly can't see how Moreno is ever going to be a proper fallback for Andy in any universe.

[Gunnersauraus 730]

The problem is money. No one can compete with the two Manchester clubs. However klopp is building something and they could win the league with him I think

[bozziovai 195]

1 hour ago, Smiley Culture said:

Firmino, Salah, Mane in the side, no after effects of the loss of Coutinho, Klopp as gaffer, a Champions League Final, Naby Keita coming in.

It got me thinking, is this the start of a trophy laden spell for Liverpool?

it's still too early to tell becoz we still don't know what will happen to those three influential players.    Madrid and the rest of the rich clubs wants to sign Salah and so are Firmino and Mane have a lot of suitors.      Granting the players are still intact next season, maybe they can challenge for the EPL, but they need consistency and some nerve of steel and a very strong will to win every game coz we don't see that hunger to win game in game out this season.

[Rick 1,403]

Let's see if we can win this cup before we talk about going on a run. Obviously, I'd be delighted if it were true but we have a mountain to climb in a fortnight.

[6666 859]

This Liverpool is a lot better put together than the Liverpool side that got to their previous 2 CL finals against A.C. Milan so they have a better chance of sustaining their competitiveness at the top but it's a bit too much to say they'll start winning the top trophies on a regular basis because of this. Even with this run to the final, they're still 3rd in the league and some way off Man City.

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[The Artful Dodger 1,733]

No way they will win the league playing like they currently do. I think they will compete but fall short until they bring some sort of calm to the team.

[True Blue 853]

Liking this Liverpool team, but as suggested above they don't play the football needed to win the title. They should do fairly good in a one game competitions or two leg games. Winning the Champions League apart from the money should attract even bigger players for them to sign. The excitement is back at Anfield, bet all the good Liverpool cunts from TFF are buzzing for the final as they should.

[Inverted 1,375]

They're not yet in the position to be successful for a sustained period but I don't think they're very far off. I think if they signed a proper organising CM and a bit of depth (a backup LB, another winger to rotate with Salah and Mane, a decent backup to Firmino) they could mount a proper title challenge.

If they then got an elite CB in to partner Van Dijk on top of that, there really wouldn't be much more room to improve the squad.

[SirBalon 2,607]

If Liverpool beat Real on the 26th of May, I believe this could be the start of something special for them and a bigger positive is that Liverpool Football Club in reality are as big as anything out there anywhere in Europe with their name, for me on a par if not bigger than Manchester United in reality.

[Gunnersauraus 730]

17 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

If Liverpool beat Real on the 26th of May, I believe this could be the start of something special for them and a bigger positive is that Liverpool Football Club in reality are as big as anything out there anywhere in Europe with their name, for me on a par if not bigger than Manchester United in reality.

Really? Not sure if they're bigger than utd

[SirBalon 2,607]

Just now, Gunnersauraus said:

Really? Not sure if they're bigger than utd

Why not?

[Gunnersauraus 730]

Just now, SirBalon said:

Why not?

Well you always read about man utd being the most popular club in the world. They generate more money than any club. 

[Danny 1,310]

Unsure, would be very Liverpool like to fuck up

[Machado 1,329]

They can beat any side in the world in the 90 minutes, so I see them doing well in cup competitions in the near future if Klopp stays.

Winning league titles takes another level of consistency that they don't seem to have. They need to be in control of more games which they rarely are... they just score a lot to make up for it.

[Gunnersauraus 730]

11 minutes ago, Teso dos Bichos said:

Its true.

No way, this is a short term of success for Liverpool, its Klopp ffs. Mainz and Dortmund were in bad shape when Klopp left.

What about inter and Chelsea when mourinho left

[SirBalon 2,607]

1 hour ago, Gunnersauraus said:

Well you always read about man utd being the most popular club in the world. They generate more money than any club. 

That marketing rubbish is not what I was talking about mate.  Real Madrid are a million light years away from Man Utd as a successful club but both are either on a par or very close to each other on that other stuff you're quoting. What matter more to a football fan?

[Cicero 3,975]

45 minutes ago, Teso dos Bichos said:

Why are you bringing up Mou? (Btw, he has always left Chelsea in great shape)

And Ranieri before him 

[LFCMike 1,831]

Impossible to tell. Winning it will certainly go some way to helping us keep our best players and hopefully attract better players to improve a few positions. I agree with a few of the others that the league isn't realistic at the moment until we get a stronger squad. Having good runs in Europe like we did under Benitez for a few years though? Why not?

[SirBalon 2,607]

6 minutes ago, Cicero said:

And Ranieri before him 

How is it important how a coach leaves a club in terms of shape?

The question in my opinion is what the fans of said club feel the scenario was in terms of a long standing project which is what moves a club forward. 

[Cicero 3,975]

4 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

How is it important how a coach leaves a club in terms of shape?

The question in my opinion is what the fans of said club feel the scenario was in terms of a long standing project which is what moves a club forward. 

Just countering Teso's laughable notion. Apparently Mourinho left Conte a title winning team (amid finishing 10th the season before) As if Ranieri didn't leave Mourinho a good team. 

Terry was already captain

Makalele was Ranieri

Lampard was Ranieri

Duff was Ranieri

J Cole was Ranieri 

[Harry 1,259]

I think we may be in a position to be consistently part of the conversation of potential title winners throughout the season. As opposed to being part of the conversation for fourth place. 

I'll take that. If we can consistently challenge for the title we'll surely get one eventually. 

[Gunnersauraus 730]

50 minutes ago, SirBalon said:

That marketing rubbish is not what I was talking about mate.  Real Madrid are a million light years away from Man Utd as a successful club but both are either on a par or very close to each other on that other stuff you're quoting. What matter more to a football fan?

In terms if success man utd have won more bit Liverpool have more European cups. I suppose in terms of a European tie Liverpool real Madrid is bigger because they have won more. Depends how you look at it I guess

[True Blue 853]

8 minutes ago, Cicero said:

Just countering Teso's laughable notion. Apparently Mourinho left Conte a title winning team (amid finishing 10th the season before) As if Ranieri didn't leave Mourinho a good team. 

Terry was already captain

Makalele was Ranieri

Lampard was Ranieri

Duff was Ranieri

J Cole was Ranieri 

Cech was Ranieri too

[Dr. Gonzo 4,808]

Wtf don't jinx us mate.

[Dr. Gonzo 4,808]

4 hours ago, True Blue said:

Liking this Liverpool team, but as suggested above they don't play the football needed to win the title. They should do fairly good in a one game competitions or two leg games. Winning the Champions League apart from the money should attract even bigger players for them to sign. The excitement is back at Anfield, bet all the good Liverpool cunts from TFF are buzzing for the final as they should.

I think we need more depth and the ability to better control the game before we can win the league.

But I also think this is potentially the strongest Liverpool side I've seen in my life, up there with when we had that side with the spine of Reina/Carra/Agger/Mascherano/Alonso/Gerrard/Torres. Which was probably our most "complete" side.

But you strengthen our midfield a bit and give us a bit more depth and keep this side together and I'll say without a doubt it's the best Liverpool side in my living memory. And maybe a side like that can sustain a title challenge and actually win the fucking thing.

This is the best spot we've been in since the last time we were an actual good side, around 10 years ago under Rafa. I think that the good year with Rodgers & Suarez was a one off... as demonstrated by the seasons immediately before and after it. Whereas for the first time in a long time it looks like we're taking steps forward each season.

I'm optimistic we'll have a good spell, but I think there's a lot more work to do. The competition will be tough, both Manchester clubs will spend heavily in the summer, Tottenham are also growing well, Chelsea will be a different side and they spend big and have a strong side, and Arsenal have the potential to be pretty decent if the new manager sorts out the defense. So fuck knows what will happen.

But the future definitely looks good now. And Firmino signing the long extension and getting rid of that release clause is big for us, because while Salah is our obviously most incredible player... Firmino is the lynchpin to our attack. But we do look much worse (see: yesterday, our match against Stoke, or when we subbed Salah off at Anfield v Roma) if we've only got one of Mane/Salah playing, so some depth on the wings would probably be good to keep our momentum up when they need a rest or are injured.

[Dr. Gonzo 4,808]

25 minutes ago, True Blue said:

Cech was Ranieri too

And Robben https://www.google.com/amp/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11668/2295819/ranieri-sold-blues-to-robben

[Cicero 3,975]

8 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

And Robben https://www.google.com/amp/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11668/2295819/ranieri-sold-blues-to-robben

So Ranieri essentially left Mourinho the spine, bar Drogba, that went on to achieve the success that it did. 

 

Cech

Terry

Makelele

Lampard

Robben------------------Duff

 

But let's remember, it was Mourinho who left Conte a winning team 

[Lucas 2,418]

6 hours ago, Smiley Culture said:

Firmino, Salah, Mane in the side, no after effects of the loss of Coutinho, Klopp as gaffer, a Champions League Final, Naby Keita coming in.

It got me thinking, is this the start of a trophy laden spell for Liverpool?

Potentially but to be frank, I wouldn't consider this question till they actually get over the line and win something.

Especially with Klopp's record. Lost 5 out of 6 finals, that isn't ideal.