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That will do it.

Stay safe @Bluewolf @DeadLinesman and @SchalkeUK This virus is the most dangerous thing to dinosaurs since the last asteroid so I need y'all to pull through!

So one of the many things that I'm grateful for, one is that there are 6 guys that we were in 2nd grade together, and remain best friends to this day. 3 of us are in Atlanta (where we were born), 1 lives in DC, 1 lives in Montana, 1 lives in Nebraska, and another lives in Florida. So, we have decided that once a month, we are going to make a Skype video meeting to just drink beer and talk online during this Covid outbreak. Our first one begins in 33 minutes and I'm actually pretty excited for this.

Germany is set to take in some Italian patients from Lombardy for treatment. The European Union will send €20 million in humanitarian aid to Iran.

Incredible what quarantine does to fight pollution. Lima is usually gray and with lots of smog. These last few days it's been blue and you can see the mountains in the back from the coast, something not common here. Apparently it has helped combat pollution and it's not just a rare sunny day because it's still summer. The birds have also returned to the beach and are flying in flocks.

You should go out for walks but there's no need go get in your car and go to the beach or the park at typical prime time. Just a 10-20 minute walk around your streets should suffice.

Apparently banking services over the phone are "key" so I'm still in work tomorrow. I would disagree since many major banks operate without telephone banking, but hey.

Needed action, don't agree with the one form of exercise bit though as although there will be a lot of people respecting it, there will also be a lot of people using it to take the piss. You'll get people going everywhere in gym gear. Some form of exercise can be done in your home no matter where you live if people are that desperate. If you're going to impose a lockdown, may as well go the whole way and be really strict about it.

I am allowed to go up the chemist to pick my prescription up and shop for bits and pieces, lucky our son is staying with us and can drive me around.

Scrabble lovers are absolutely delighted.

Yep. Everyone followed voluntary curfew impeccably on Sunday. Today was horrendous. Some of it is understandable. Daily wage labourers who live on the borders of big cities coming in for work. But the behaviour from educated or privileged ones is infuriating. All throughout the day, state after state imposed stricter laws. Now most states are under forced lockdown and cops have been given power to deal with idiots who step out of their homes unnecessarily. People are not going to change until they actually witness their loved ones suffering. And by that time, it will too late. We have jumped from 396 to 499 positive cases in a day. We are well on our way to getting screwed. @topic Meanwhile, one patient in South India who returned from Middle East was told to remain in quarantine. Instead he went to two weddings, a funeral and a football match. He is directly responsible for at least 6 more positive cases (a number which could rise above 50 cause 100+ people who came in contact with him are now qurantined).

I'd describe it as a partial lockdown but a positive step. Just hope this relieves pressure on NHS and has the desired effect to do so. That's the main thing for me as well as reducing number of cases. Think we have to realise it will take such a lockdown period for case numbers to decrease. People can't expect instant results here. Gotta be patient but compliant.

That cow will be eating you for dinner mate.

Kimi WDC confirmed.

AND WE'RE BACK TO THIS!

Booooooooo Europe. Yaaaaaaay sovereignty.

Cor with that kind of vision did you not see this happening ?

Wrong thread?

Nah. It is still most likely to have started in China; just much earlier than it was discovered allowing it to circulate and spread throughout the world undetected. I believe most of the research seems to agree that China's actual patient zero got sick in November and hasn't even visited the infamous Wuhan wet market.

This is not the Chinese making it up though. They are quoting what Dr. Giuseppe Remuzzi - a respected medical expert and Italy's leading clinical researcher - said during an interview with the NPR (American media) originally. "And it's now emerging that the virus had been spreading for months before it was detective. I talked to Dr. Giuseppe Remuzzi, who's been talking to family doctors. They told him they saw cases that looked like severe pneumonia already last November and December. That's before the world even became aware of the COVID-19 outbreak in China. GIUSEPPE REMUZZI: That they remember having seen very strange pneumonias, very severe, particularly in old people, in December and even in November. It means that the virus was circulating at least in Lombardy before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China." https://www.npr.org/2020/03/20/818797687/morning-news-brief https://www.npr.org/2020/03/19/817974987/every-single-individual-must-stay-home-italy-s-coronavirus-deaths-pass-china-s It's also not the only source and not the first time it's suggested either. Phylogenetic analysis shows the same thing and it seems to be widely agreed upon in the medical circles in Italy. This is what Maria Rita Gismondo, Italy's virologist from Sacco di Milano hospital said in an Italian interview in early March: "Is it true that the virus had already arrived in Italy in November last year and therefore before the first atypical cases of pneumonia were discovered in China? "This is well established, it clearly emerges from our studies at the University of Milan and from those of other groups of scientists." How was it possible to trace the presence of the virus before it was discovered? “These studies are based on genotyping, which is the photograph of the core of the virus. The comparison with the viruses circulated in China and in the rest of the world has made us understand that it is a single virus. We have genotyped many of them, starting the mapping of the virus path in Italy: from here we discovered that it was already present in our country since November last year, giving an explanation to many atypical cases of pneumonia "." https://www.lanazione.it/firenze/cronaca/coronavirus-virologa-gismondo-1.5062536 It is not claiming that Italy is the source by the way; it suggests that the virus - regardless of its real origin - has most likely been circulating undetectable for much longer than first thought and then likely mutated into a much aggressive strain we're dealing with now. The Chinese definitely were complacent and made mistakes (local authorities silencing doctors who were first reporting it and not taking them seriously) and very likely weren't completely transparent for sure - but the leaders of other countries are equally to blame; in fact even more so - they knew about the existence of the new virus since the end of December and took absolutely no action to do anything about it while the Chinese were already quarantining millions of people in its cities. In fact many still don't do anything about it so go figure... They took it even less serious than the Chinese authorities at the start so I don't get it why people are not blaming their local authorities if they so badly need someone to blame for the situation we all find ourselves in at this moment. Pointing the finger at someone is absolutely not a top priority but I guess it makes people feel better about themselves and their own lack of action (not directed at you personally haha).

Never got the real reason why he changed his name from Adolf to Felix!

Lots of guitar playing inspiration from this guy recently

I think this is a byproduct of thinking that staying at home for a day is some magical cure for a drop in numbers so people are just going out. I am also equally surprised at the attitude considering we don't live in times when access to information is hard and yet we're being borderline stupid about our behaviour. I know you want to get out and being indoors has damaged your enjoyment engine but what's fourteen days compared to getting sick and in some cases getting worse than just being sick. It's also more stupid considering the government has asked for lockdowns in certain states and yet today I looked outside and saw so many people walking around and all I am thinking is that you must be enormously thick to not understand the gravity of this situation. Like I said before, we will do nothing till death surrounds us and by then I hope it's not too late to do something about this.

I'm going to go the opposite way and say the outbreak in China wasn't taken seriously in much of the west because they are thought of as alien due to being racially and culturally different. However Italy closed their borders to the whole of China well before they had an outbreak of their own. They were the first western country to do so.

Spanish Flu’s only called that because Spain’s media, unlike most big European countries in that era, wasn’t under blackout from WW1 because they were neutral. So most sources first reported were out of Spain, but there’s evidence that other countries had cases first where the stories were suppressed & that governments were happy to let Spain take the fall on the world stage.

Just finished it! A very enjoyable series. There will be Season 2 for sure, right? The way it ended makes me think it's not over...

On snow!

McDonald's announces closures, so what do people do? Why queue up for one last Big Mac of course. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-mcdonalds-fans-queue-one-21739215.amp Also, three teens have been held by police for coughing in an elderly couple's face. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52003543 Yet again, more proof that society has well and truly failed, but this will be placed on the UK Government's doorstep.

Bloody hell, I ordered 2 asthma pumps from the docs last week and the local chemist would pick them up from the surgery as per normal and deliver them here, they have not arrived yet and tried ringing up the chemist shop but got no answer as the phone was permanently engaged, I rung my surgery up and the receptionist there said the chemist shop was inundated with phone calls so they took the phone off the hook. Plus she said the driver who normally delivers has been tested as positive and is now in isolation and I will have to arrange to pick the prescription up myself or arrange for someone else to, looks like our son will have to drive me up there to pick them up, my other prescriptions are due shortly too and one of them is my COPD pump, I have 14 days puffs in the one in the medicine cupboard.

Got informed today schools will not shut in WA, and in the same information, parents have reasonable cause to keep students at home. So which is it? Schools are safe or they’re not?