Stan 15,993 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 https://www.premierleague.com/stats/awards Nominees Paul Clement - Swansea Antonio Conte - Chelsea Sean Dyche - Burnley Eddie Howe - Bournemouth Mauricio Pochettino - Tottenham Tony Pulis - West Brom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,993 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 Has to be Conte for me because of the convincing way he's led Chelsea to the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,993 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 although I don't get how Clement can be nominated but not Shakespeare, especially since Shakespeare was appointed after Clement and has taken us further away from relegation. Not saying that Shakespeare should win it but don't get how 1 can be nominated and the other can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan 1,742 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Stan said: although I don't get how Clement can be nominated but not Shakespeare, especially since Shakespeare was appointed after Clement and has taken us further away from relegation. Not saying that Shakespeare should win it but don't get how 1 can be nominated and the other can't. Thought the same but to be honest it's a moot point as I'd not vote either for the main thing anyway. Got to be Conte. Followed by Pochettino. Boring selections but fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toony 95 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Conte is a nailed on for this. I like the jobs that Howe & Dyche have done, particularly Dyche because he's done it on quite a limited budget. Bournemouth spend a lot more money than what people think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Blue 1,710 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Has to be Antonio Conte (one season fluke or not) he's took a team that finished mid table last season to the title, Chelsea are the new Leicester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig on the Wing 289 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Stan said: although I don't get how Clement can be nominated but not Shakespeare, especially since Shakespeare was appointed after Clement and has taken us further away from relegation. Be not afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandoEFC 7,032 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 A one horse race this. Pocchetino, Dyche and Howe deserve to be nominated, but Clement being included is a joke given that he's taken over late in the season and hasn't actually achieved anything more than Allardyce or Shakespeare. I don't see why Pulis should be on the list either unless the season ended in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 1,988 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Easily Conte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,090 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Since late January West Brom have been the third worst team in the league so I'm surprised to see Pulis nominated. Conte deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts 2,307 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Stan said: although I don't get how Clement can be nominated but not Shakespeare, especially since Shakespeare was appointed after Clement and has taken us further away from relegation. Not saying that Shakespeare should win it but don't get how 1 can be nominated and the other can't. Because you won the league last season ffs, with the same group of players. No miracle to be able to string a few wins together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,649 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Fucking Eddie Howe? They were in shite for a large period of the season, he's the media darling and I cannot wait for him to get sacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,993 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, Storts said: Because you won the league last season ffs, with the same group of players. No miracle to be able to string a few wins together. we were in the shite when Ranieri was sacked. Still a job to be done and where did I say it was a miracle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storts 2,307 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stan said: we were in the shite when Ranieri was sacked. Still a job to be done and where did I say it was a miracle? Clement is there because he had a far more difficult task. Shakespeare had the easiest job in football. Put a couple of wins together with a title winning team - well done mate, get yourself nominated for manager of the year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan 15,993 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 Just now, Storts said: Clement is there because he had a far more difficult task. Shakespeare had the easiest job in football. Put a couple of wins together with a title winning team - well done mate, get yourself nominated for manager of the year ahaha okay then. if you say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 4,978 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Astonished why Guardiola isn't on the list. Thought he did a pretty decent job finally being in a league where you can't win 5 or 6-0 whilst playing Centre Mids at Centre Back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan 1,742 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Could argue it either way with Shakespeare. On one hand he's taken over a team that should have been doing better anyway and got them back on track. On another hand he's taken over a team in 19th and has them 3rd in the form table since he's had the job. I don't think it's that ridiculous thinking he should be on there. Would say he's more worthy than Pulis is given they've ended up being about par. Clement I think is in a similar scenario. He's taken over a team who really shouldn't be going down with their squad. But it's arguing for arguing's sake really as there are only two contenders, and really for me, only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture 1,649 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 If Shakespeare shouldn't be on that list because he boosted morale, Conte shouldn't be and really, no managers should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 7,015 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 It has to be Conte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco 2,834 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Conte and I'm not sure it'll be too close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 19 hours ago, Cicero said: Astonished why Guardiola isn't on the list. Thought he did a pretty decent job finally being in a league where you can't win 5 or 6-0 whilst playing Centre Mids at Centre Back. He spent 180 million to finish 4 th. No way can he be nominated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig on the Wing 289 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 ^ oh, someone tell him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,674 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) Antonio Conte by a landslide. What he done was what coaches are meant to do which is design a format to win games and then with it compete for and win the league. It's textbook blackboard (are we still allowed to say blackboard in this country?) stuff. It's not about who else should or shouldn't be nominated. It's about the fact that this season no other coach should even be allowed to get anywhere near Conte's shoes to clean them. They're not worthy! Only one nominee should be in there and let him fight it with himself. Edited May 18, 2017 by SirBalon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,040 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, SirBalon said: Antonio Conte by a landslide. What he done was what coaches are meant to do which is design a format to win games and then with it compete for and win the league. It's textbook blackboard (are we still allowed to say blackboard in this country?) stuff. It's not about who else should or shouldn't be nominated. It's about the fact that this season no other coach should even be allowed to get anywhere near Conte's shows to clean them. They're not worthy! I'm going to agree that Conte deserves to win it because he's done a great job but I'd like to remind you (even though nobody else is worthy) of how fortunate Conte has been in his first season. Injuries to key players. In fact in Chelsea's case, any injuries at all. I'm going to use us as an example because obviously I have more knowledge of our situation than other clubs (but I know other clubs have suffered with injury problems as well). We haven't had our first 11 available for 95% of this season. For a significant amount of time we've lost Coutinho, Mane, Sturridge, Henderson, Lallana, all at the same time in some periods and we've only been able to play our first choice CB's for about 50% of games. Even Emre Can has been playing the season through injections. Our bench for the second half of the season has been made up of teenagers from the under 23's. Conte has had the luxury of having basically zero injuries for the duration of this season. Imagine they had lost Hazard, Costa, Kante, Matic, Pedro as well as not being able to play their first choice CB's for large parts of the season? They have been brilliant Chelsea and I'm not taking anything away from them but they have been extremely lucky to have been able to play basically the same 11, week in week out and with no European football it's just all fell into place. So no, I'm not wearing it that nobody else is worthy because although Conte has been good, he's also been extremely fortunate in his first year in England Edited May 18, 2017 by LFCMadLad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMadLad 2,040 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Teso Dos Bichos said: Extremely fortunate with the injuries and the squad was mostly built/set up by the previous coach (not interim) The coach who had them finish about 10th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Well actually they were on course to finish lower than that with mourinho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBalon 2,674 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 7 hours ago, LFCMadLad said: I'm going to agree that Conte deserves to win it because he's done a great job but I'd like to remind you (even though nobody else is worthy) of how fortunate Conte has been in his first season. Injuries to key players. In fact in Chelsea's case, any injuries at all. I'm going to use us as an example because obviously I have more knowledge of our situation than other clubs (but I know other clubs have suffered with injury problems as well). We haven't had our first 11 available for 95% of this season. For a significant amount of time we've lost Coutinho, Mane, Sturridge, Henderson, Lallana, all at the same time in some periods and we've only been able to play our first choice CB's for about 50% of games. Even Emre Can has been playing the season through injections. Our bench for the second half of the season has been made up of teenagers from the under 23's. Conte has had the luxury of having basically zero injuries for the duration of this season. Imagine they had lost Hazard, Costa, Kante, Matic, Pedro as well as not being able to play their first choice CB's for large parts of the season? They have been brilliant Chelsea and I'm not taking anything away from them but they have been extremely lucky to have been able to play basically the same 11, week in week out and with no European football it's just all fell into place. So no, I'm not wearing it that nobody else is worthy because although Conte has been good, he's also been extremely fortunate in his first year in England I understand what you're saying there mate and yes it's true they've been lucky on the injury front. You could also add that they weren't in Europe this season and with that type of squad, you've definietly got a chance of competing for the title when you've got all week to think about games. I've already stated this during the season earlier on. But all the same, he took a broken side and fixed it.... Then after they got beat by us, he then goes back to the drawing board and changes everything on how that team usually functions on the pitch. We don't know how difficult that it to do to be honest... It's like getting a Japanese digital watch which isn't all that interesting but works fine although boring (Mourinho's Chelsea), dismantling it to pieces, all its insides and then putting it all together again in a different way where it's suddenly turned into a Swiss watch!!! That's not easy to do with footballers, to change the very essence of the tactics upside down and to make them understand what he wants to perfection. Put it this way... (I know many have used it) He made others use it here in the Premier League and it made me laugh a lot when Wenger started to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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