Bluewolf 7,161 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mel81x said: This sounds a lot like Jerry Maguire for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 14 hours ago, Redcanuck said: I thought FIFA rules were only 5 year contract maximum? Chelsea to pay £115 m for Caicedo now, do Liverpool come back with £118m? For amortization yes, the max is now 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,412 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 13, 2023 Finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,412 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 13, 2023 I thought these long contracts weren't allowed any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,281 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Adios, shitbag 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Stan said: I thought these long contracts weren't allowed any more? They are with regards to the player’s book value. The Amortization when spreading the payment is only 5 years however. Glad this saga is finally over. A player we desperately need Edited August 13, 2023 by Cicero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,212 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 37 minutes ago, Rick said: Adios, shitbag All he’s done is flat out refuse to join you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,281 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, Danny said: All he’s done is flat out refuse to join you Yeah but I’m salty over it haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,212 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Rick said: Yeah but I’m salty over it haha Him and Enzo is a game changing midfield unfortunately, Chelsea could well be on for a top 4 finish now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcanuck 175 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Chelsea still in for Lavia? Where are they going to play Caicedo, Fernandez and Lavia? And why would Lavia still go there, can't see him getting much playing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) Yeah not sure what the plan is here but I expect things will make sense after Sept 1st. From lacking quality CMs to having an influx. Edited August 13, 2023 by Cicero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6666 1,310 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 What's the total now under Boehly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,406 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Over a billion dollars. Not sure what the point of FFP is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick 2,281 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Certain members giving it the big one a few days ago don’t half look like a couple of pillocks now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,618 Posted August 14, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted August 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: Not sure what the point of FFP is. There was never any point to it. FIFA needed to look like it was going to do something about the parity issue in Football but they learned very quickly that their coffers being fed was more important than the sport being fair. Accountants and Lawyers have made a killing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush 299 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 FFP up the arse is Chelseas motto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honey Honey 3,767 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 You are allowed a £105m loss over a 3 year period. If they spread their purchases out over 5 years but sales revenue in less they probably can do this. If the Saudi's bought their players with cash then even more so. It's if they don't finish in the top 4 they will probably have to fire sale or could be in big trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,673 Posted August 14, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted August 14, 2023 They should just get rid of the "Fair" part of FFP because the end result is that Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City can spend almost endless amounts of money. Liverpool and Arsenal spend big on transfers as well but at least seem to have to pick and choose between players instead of having seemingly unlimited resources. I don't really know where Spurs fall between those and the rest but everyone else basically gets one chance to do a big wave of spending and if that doesn't generate them their money back then they end up crippled for years. People will point to Newcastle as an example of it being possible to break the glass ceiling but it took them becoming one of the richest clubs in world football overnight and make no mistake that if their first wave of proper spending had gone wrong they'd be another Everton within 3-4 years. If you want to make football in any way fair then you have to introduce a budget cap. All of the big clubs would still have overwhelming advantages by starting with better players, bigger stadiums and other pull factors. Except then they'd have to earn the right to stay at the top by getting their recruitment right. Man Utd have got away with years of mismanagement spending as much as Man City and having barely anything to show for it, while Chelsea can get away with spending £40m-£80m each on Lukaku, Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, Koulibaly, Cucurella, Kepa, Ziyech over the past few years only for every single one of them to flop and they just get to do it again and again. I'm sure I'll get the usual twisted defences about sustainable income and money generated from the academy but these are advantages they put into place with their oil money before FFP that now nobody else has a realistic opportunity to replicate themselves. This talk of Chelsea signing Lavia as well on top of Caicedo is completely insane. It's one thing getting their first choice and Liverpool having to settle for the inferior player of the two but Chelsea spending over £150m to take both of them and even Liverpool not being able to get either because Chelsea can blow them that far out of the water financially, is fucking mental if it happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebird Hewitt 1,282 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 £115m and on a 7-8 year contract!!!! I know everyone rips into the Saudis and others for good reason, but this just highlights how ridiculous it is in the prem really (money wise at least). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 5 hours ago, RandoEFC said: They should just get rid of the "Fair" part of FFP because the end result is that Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City can spend almost endless amounts of money. Liverpool and Arsenal spend big on transfers as well but at least seem to have to pick and choose between players instead of having seemingly unlimited resources. I don't really know where Spurs fall between those and the rest but everyone else basically gets one chance to do a big wave of spending and if that doesn't generate them their money back then they end up crippled for years. People will point to Newcastle as an example of it being possible to break the glass ceiling but it took them becoming one of the richest clubs in world football overnight and make no mistake that if their first wave of proper spending had gone wrong they'd be another Everton within 3-4 years. If you want to make football in any way fair then you have to introduce a budget cap. All of the big clubs would still have overwhelming advantages by starting with better players, bigger stadiums and other pull factors. Except then they'd have to earn the right to stay at the top by getting their recruitment right. Man Utd have got away with years of mismanagement spending as much as Man City and having barely anything to show for it, while Chelsea can get away with spending £40m-£80m each on Lukaku, Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, Koulibaly, Cucurella, Kepa, Ziyech over the past few years only for every single one of them to flop and they just get to do it again and again. I'm sure I'll get the usual twisted defences about sustainable income and money generated from the academy but these are advantages they put into place with their oil money before FFP that now nobody else has a realistic opportunity to replicate themselves. This talk of Chelsea signing Lavia as well on top of Caicedo is completely insane. It's one thing getting their first choice and Liverpool having to settle for the inferior player of the two but Chelsea spending over £150m to take both of them and even Liverpool not being able to get either because Chelsea can blow them that far out of the water financially, is fucking mental if it happens. Transfer fees are relative. Its the wages that would need to be imposed on the big clubs, and on a global scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,212 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Just shy of £900m in about 12 months is outrageous. I think if ever there was a club that were to go bust and deserve it without any sympathy for anyone it'd be Chelsea, their fans are not worried by this in the slightest, business as usual. Just happy clapping along as they spend the GDP of Samoa, it's gobsmacking really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,673 Posted August 14, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Cicero said: Transfer fees are relative. Its the wages that would need to be imposed on the big clubs, and on a global scale. Yeah it's in no way realistic to implement. All I'm saying if you want "fair" then that's your best solution. They need to stop calling it FFP and just start referring to it as financial regulation or sustainability rules or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero 5,267 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Danny said: Just shy of £900m in about 12 months is outrageous. I think if ever there was a club that were to go bust and deserve it without any sympathy for anyone it'd be Chelsea, their fans are not worried by this in the slightest, business as usual. Just happy clapping along as they spend the GDP of Samoa, it's gobsmacking really. Oh piss off Danny. You don't half shy away from slandering Chelsea but the part in bold is simply bollocks. @Bluewolf and I have spent the past 12 months showing our concerns regarding our spending and scatter gun approach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf 7,161 Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Danny said: Just shy of £900m in about 12 months is outrageous. I think if ever there was a club that were to go bust and deserve it without any sympathy for anyone it'd be Chelsea, their fans are not worried by this in the slightest, business as usual. Just happy clapping along as they spend the GDP of Samoa, it's gobsmacking really. I have to agree with @Cicero here mate, bit naughty that thinking we don't give a shit about what and how money has been spent since he took over... Obviously you don't read many of our posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,412 Posted August 14, 2023 Author Administrator Share Posted August 14, 2023 Done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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