Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted December 9, 2023 Administrator Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, DeadLinesman said: However, from a tactics and analysis points of view, you don’t need to have played the game to know what you’re talking about. We are all testament to that having not played the game professionally but knowing everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey 1,192 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Didn't expect the social media take to be so pro-Barton. Every post documenting this is filled with people backing Joey - surprised me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,190 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 08/12/2023 at 12:48, Tommy said: I read about Joey Barton's comments and Emma Hayes' response. What is your view on female pundits in men's football? Joey Barton is a massive twat. His family is full of nasty people, but the only reason Joey's not considered the worst Barton is because his brother literally killed someone by taking an axe to their head. Or as Joey Barton would describe it "my brother went to jail for a little scrap." The less attention we give to him and his thoughts, the better. Some people are just better off ignored. It's commentary - a man or a woman can possess the same skills to be a good commentator, it's not like they have to physically compete to give football commentary. Same with pundits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo 8,190 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Whiskey said: Didn't expect the social media take to be so pro-Barton. Every post documenting this is filled with people backing Joey - surprised me. Social media, especially the site formerly known as twitter, is full of people happy to pile on with hateful shite anytime anything comes up that is remotely close to whatever culture war shite is being promoted by the US news media. This has to do with whether or not women can do something on TV that's typically been a job reserved for men - so of course the chronically online who have nothing better to do with their lives than be useful idiots fighting culture wars online take to the culture wars. With something like "women can't talk about football on TV as good as men can" - that's going to get a huge number of misogynists and incels bitching and moaning about women. Yes, they should be more focused on trying to lose their virginities and fixing their miserable personalities that have them sad and lonely. But that's difficult, whereas being hateful little shits that blame women for all of life's problems comes easy to them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 5,103 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Isa Guha is literally my fav cricket commentator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub 2,508 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 06:21, Spike said: Isa Guha is literally my fav cricket commentator They brought on Tendulkar for the Ind Pak game in the WC. All he was talking about how his wife is a doctor and his dad was teacher. How is that related to the game ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Mel81x+ 3,613 Posted December 20, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted December 20, 2023 IMO the best female pundit/commentator about football going-ons I have ever heard is Melissa Reddy. I'd rather have her report on things than a lot of her male counterparts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber RandoEFC+ 7,664 Posted December 20, 2023 Subscriber Share Posted December 20, 2023 I know it's a small thing but I heard in passing last weekend Jamie Redknapp claim that Richarlison's best performances for Everton came when he played down the middle which is the total opposite of the truth because he always excelled on the left for us and was wasted and isolated at centre forward. It's just evidence of the double standards. Joey Barton posted a full breakdown of what was wrong with the woman's commentary on the Doucoure goal for us against Chelsea but a male pundit comes out with something that isn't based in any research or reality and nobody gives a shit. Redknapp knows he can get away with punditry that sounds believable without having to back it up whereas any female pundit or commentator gets scrutinised over the most innocuous comments. It's just so obvious when you can see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reluctant Striker 134 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) Paula Radcliffe & Steve Cram commentate on mens & women's athletics. There's no reason football should be different. Culturally many are unprepared for it. Boys play football. Men watch football. Girls play with baby dolls & tea sets. While mum vacuums, irons, cooks & whatever. To some, it's just all mind boggling & a laugh if any do different. I imagine male TV chefs are essentially RU Paul's drag thing. Some of the women football pundits do talk tactical gibberish & partisan nonsense. Just as well as men. Eni Aluko is equally as capable of talking inane babble as Micah Richards. Emma Hayes can make very inciteful, against the grain observations. Like bluntly not dropping Mings because Maguire was fit again. Along the lines of how Sir Alex Ferguson called out the good he had seen in Villa, despite getting battered on the opening day. The un-needed bit is perhaps the 'battle of the sexes' & 'fight for equality' it often becomes. Paula Radcliffe does not keep banging on about such things. But then male football is also far, far, too political. Edited December 20, 2023 by Reluctant Striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab 1,294 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Is this Joey Barton the same guy that struggled big time in Scottish football and then called it poor quality when he left? That essentially renders his opinion invalid on all matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,402 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 When I heard this topic of conversation I immediately thought of this: Then I heard Joey Barton has a podcast coming out, which explains the caveman comments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Christ Joey Barton just gets worse and worse. I've only come across some of his recent tweets cos they were posted on another forum. Embarrassing some of the stuff he's coming out with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted January 6 Administrator Share Posted January 6 Yeah comparing two pundits to Fred and Rose West is a massive stretch even for him. He's just a cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike 3,009 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 3 hours ago, Stan said: Yeah comparing two pundits to Fred and Rose West is a massive stretch even for him. He's just a cunt. Referring to world wars in response to a tweet by Union Berlin as well Edited January 6 by LFCMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadLinesman 5,938 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Calling everyone out: then gets offended when someone DMs him. The bloke is an utter fucking helmet. Either there’s allegations coming against him, he’s got a podcast coming out or he’s Lol Fox’s new best mate. I’m going for all 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 22 hours ago, DeadLinesman said: Calling everyone out: then gets offended when someone DMs him. The bloke is an utter fucking helmet. Either there’s allegations coming against him, he’s got a podcast coming out or he’s Lol Fox’s new best mate. I’m going for all 3. I actually think it’s number 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted January 7 Administrator Share Posted January 7 29 minutes ago, Danny said: I actually think it’s number 2 He's just angling for a GB News spot. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up standing in for an election and he'll have some cult neanderthal following. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny 2,206 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, Stan said: He's just angling for a GB News spot. Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up standing in for an election and he'll have some cult neanderthal following. Probably but the Daily Mail advertised a podcast of his called Common Sense over Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,617 Posted January 7 Author Moderator Share Posted January 7 Just had a look at Barton's twitter and all those "You're so right", "finally someone says it like it is", "Our new hero" replies. Fucking hell. Enough twitter for today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,402 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 So what percentage of female football pundits do we reckon knew it was Franz and not Frank Beckenbauer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose 4,378 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 20 minutes ago, The Palace Fan said: So what percentage of female football pundits do we reckon knew it was Franz and not Frank Beckenbauer? What percentage of British male pundits, knew that? And, while we're at it what percentage of male English pundit know it's Thomas Müller not Thomas Muller? Edited January 10 by Rucksackfranzose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Palace Fan 3,402 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 6 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said: What percentage of British male pundits, knew that? And, while we're at it what percentage of male English pundit know it's Thomas Müller not Thomas Muller? We don't use ü when conferring as we're spoilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan 18,386 Posted January 10 Administrator Share Posted January 10 21 minutes ago, Rucksackfranzose said: What percentage of British male pundits, knew that I think it was a (valid) dig at how ironic Joey Barton is. Bemoans females for making mistakes but then makes one himself. Nothing really to do with whether British male pundits knew, or at least less so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rucksackfranzose 4,378 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Stan said: I think it was a (valid) dig at how ironic Joey Barton is. Bemoans females for making mistakes but then makes one himself. Nothing really to do with whether British male pundits knew, or at least less so. Than I apologize @The Palace Fan Didn't get it since I don't follow British media, and misunderstood it as an unnecessary dig at female pundits. Edited January 10 by Rucksackfranzose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Tommy 12,617 Posted January 10 Author Moderator Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, Rucksackfranzose said: Than I apologize @The Palace Fan Didn't get it since I don't follow British media, and misunderstood it as an unnecessary dig at female pundits. Fucking Brits using irony and humour! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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