MUFC Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Stories of Ole again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Rashford to play well for a couple of months than go back to being a bluffing cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 Heard it’s 15m in compensation? Hilarious if true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted October 28 Subscriber Share Posted October 28 I basically put West Ham to beat them entirely on the basis it would be enough to get him out the door just before they play us twice. Absolutely typical. I'm really baffled by just quite how bad Ten Hag actually was. Translating success at Ajax to Manchester United isn't easy but the complete lack of basically anything was astounding. I said it in the match thread - in 2024 they have been no exaggeration one of the worst teams in the league. The cup win a complete freak anomaly amongst this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted October 28 Subscriber Share Posted October 28 4 hours ago, LFCMike said: Van Nistelrooy will get a few good results, Rio Ferdinand will declare 'Man Utd are back' and they'll give it to Van Nistelrooy permanently before it all goes tits up a few months down the line. This is pretty clearly what will happen as well. They've a serious problem at that club. Obsessed with the past. Their new owners should ban any association from the Fergie era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFCMike Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 1 hour ago, Dan said: This is pretty clearly what will happen as well. They've a serious problem at that club. Obsessed with the past. Their new owners should ban any association from the Fergie era. Their upcoming run is perfect for an unsustainable new manager bounce too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 It was the inevitable sacking that took q while longer than expected. Potch is my guess for permanent head coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted October 28 Author Administrator Share Posted October 28 11 minutes ago, OrangeKhrush said: Potch is my guess for permanent head coach He's only just recently become US coach hasn't he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Coma+ Posted October 29 Subscriber Share Posted October 29 19 hours ago, Dan said: I basically put West Ham to beat them entirely on the basis it would be enough to get him out the door just before they play us twice. Absolutely typical. I'm really baffled by just quite how bad Ten Hag actually was. Translating success at Ajax to Manchester United isn't easy but the complete lack of basically anything was astounding. I said it in the match thread - in 2024 they have been no exaggeration one of the worst teams in the league. The cup win a complete freak anomaly amongst this. The fact that it's been abject failure for years now is more an indication of poor recruitment than coaching imo. I have no doubt that Ten Hag will go somewhere else and succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiley Culture Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 21 hours ago, Reluctant Striker said: More recently & relevantly the 2020/21 season featured Arsenal finishing 8th after spending an extended part of early season much lower, with all kinds of angsty fans & fairly sure had Xhaka giving some back to the fans. With Arteta as manager. To follow in your more avant garde style, Huw Edwards was the Welsh & white Trevor McDonald that recently.. 8th place, which was no worse (or better) than the previous years finish of 8th. The only signings of any relevance and over £10m were Gabriel and Partey, compared to half a billion pound spunking by Ten Hag and significant drop from 3rd to 8th. What you’re saying is really as comparable as a walking holiday with Jay Slater or a worldwide cruise with a golden toilet in your room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Subscriber Dan+ Posted October 29 Subscriber Share Posted October 29 6 hours ago, Coma said: The fact that it's been abject failure for years now is more an indication of poor recruitment than coaching imo. I have no doubt that Ten Hag will go somewhere else and succeed. I'm not convinced he will, but I can't really say that with any certainty either. He has overseen a lot of this dreadful recruitment himself. They really need an overhaul. A ruthless manager who needs to bin some of these jokers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil-Dick Willie Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 15 hours ago, Dan said: I'm not convinced he will, but I can't really say that with any certainty either. He has overseen a lot of this dreadful recruitment himself. They really need an overhaul. A ruthless manager who needs to bin some of these jokers. Putting it mildly. Someone needs to carve through that dressing room like a fucking hurricane and send some useless cunts to Everton. Lindelof Maguire Fernandes (for attitude and being a shit cunt, not for lack of talent) Hojlund Rashford (should have happened 6 years ago) Diallo Casemiro Antony All heads that must roll if this team is ever going to find its feet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reluctant Striker Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 On 29/10/2024 at 14:21, Smiley Culture said: 8th place, which was no worse (or better) than the previous years finish of 8th. The only signings of any relevance and over £10m were Gabriel and Partey, compared to half a billion pound spunking by Ten Hag and significant drop from 3rd to 8th. What you’re saying is really as comparable as a walking holiday with Jay Slater or a worldwide cruise with a golden toilet in your room. I've not been suggesting they should not get rid of ten Hag. West Ham won a first trophy since the early 80's & got rid of their manager soon after. It is the way football is these days. The main point I was originally making was that winning what the Fergie era considered the lesser trophies is just perhaps as good as it gets for Man United for some time. Explain how this is factually incorrect Mr Ineos? No club will ever be a happy place unless it can celebrate what it achieves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted October 31 Subscriber Share Posted October 31 13 hours ago, Devil-Dick Willie said: Putting it mildly. Someone needs to carve through that dressing room like a fucking hurricane and send some useless cunts to Everton. Lindelof Maguire Fernandes (for attitude and being a shit cunt, not for lack of talent) Hojlund Rashford (should have happened 6 years ago) Diallo Casemiro Antony All heads that must roll if this team is ever going to find its feet again. I'd want virtually anybody who's been there 3+ years to be culled as they've been a part of what feels a monthly humiliation ritual. But the problem with this is Ten Hag signed a load more rubbish himself and this isn't really viable as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 On 29/10/2024 at 00:02, Stan said: He's only just recently become US coach hasn't he? Saw that it kind of went rather quietly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUFC Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 After last night, Real and Barca will be fighting over Ruud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 17 hours ago, Dan said: I'd want virtually anybody who's been there 3+ years to be culled as they've been a part of what feels a monthly humiliation ritual. But the problem with this is Ten Hag signed a load more rubbish himself and this isn't really viable as a result. That last part is key to me. I think Ten Hag was fortunate that Lingard and Pogba left when he arrived, then he deserves credit for how he handled Ronaldo trying to make everything about himself. The top of the hierarchy in terms of toxicity had been removed in 12 months and they had a good season. He then however created a rod for his own back when he spent so much on Antony and seemingly treated him different to others he tried to shift on. Players who probably do need shifting on, but when the manager is tactically inept and treating players different, it becomes a real problem. Two summers ago se said United needed to get there next 5/6 signings spot on. Then in came Onana, Mount etc. I think this summer was much improved but it feels like they need to nail the next wave because half that squad shouldn't be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Stan Posted Friday at 14:04 Author Administrator Share Posted Friday at 14:04 Sporting have confirmed that Amorim will go to Man Utd. Will officially start on 11th Nov. "Sporting SAD has reached an agreement with Manchester United FC (hereinafter MUFC) regarding terms and conditions of coach Ruben Amorim's departure, in return for which MUFC will pay Sporting SAD 11,000,000 euros (£9,252,210)." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subscriber Dan+ Posted Friday at 14:26 Subscriber Share Posted Friday at 14:26 Actually rate that appointment. I've tracked him since we were loosely linked about 4 years ago and he seems to just consistently do well. He's made very much the third wheel of Portuguese football into the best team over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnersaurus Posted Friday at 17:31 Share Posted Friday at 17:31 I think there is always a risk with any manager. I think the risk with amorin is that he hasn't managed in a top top league. The Portuguese league is good but not a top 3 league. That being said he has taken sporting to two league titles and they hadn't won it since 2002 I think before he came in. I said the same thing about ten haag and people said I was talking shit so we will see. I think it could go either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeKhrush Posted Monday at 10:13 Share Posted Monday at 10:13 The bigger risk is that he hasnt got the type of players he had at sporting to play that way at Yanited. Time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Gonzo Posted Monday at 18:55 Share Posted Monday at 18:55 I think the hardest thing for him, at most clubs in England... not just United, would be getting that 3 at the back system working the same way it does for his Sporting side. I don't really think the current United backline is really suited for it at all - De Ligt and Maguire imo are just not those kind of CBs. So does he come in and be pragmatic this season and only impose a bit of his philosophy this season and fully transition over to his 3 at the back next season? Does he just say "fuck it" and try to force square pegs into round holes and hope for the best, with an eye on trying to get as much of the squad as used to his system as possible? Honestly, United need such a big reset all over the pitch... I think it does make sense to just start imposing his philosophy now and expect to have to wheel and deal in the January to try to get their rebuild kickstarted. But that's easier said than done in a results driven industry where a bad run could put him under horrific pressure. But I think that's really the biggest risk with them going with him. His system is just so different from how United are currently built. You can probably say that of Ten Hag too though lol... even though he spent a huge amount of money and still couldn't work out how to get United looking anything like his old Ajax side. But I remember someone on here shared some football nerd's YouTube video where they just spew off bullshit about how the new manager might make the new side look when he was linked with us. And while that football nerd seemed to think "oh this translates so well to this squad" my initial thought was "this is an entirely different defensive setup to what we usually see at Liverpool" - and imo our backline is better suited for Amorim's system than Man Utd's is. So if I were a United fan hoping he gets off to a strong start... I think I'd be pretty worried about how he goes about setting up his backline in those early days. But I think long term, they'd be better off letting him try to see what the current squad can do in the type of system he wants to play. What do they have to lose? This season where they've had a miserable start? Their/his best case scenario is these players look better in his strange system than I'd have expected and their impending deadwood clear out may have less players than I would have thought. And their worst case scenario is... they'll need a massive clear out to get the system to work. I think that's the case regardless. United have some players with a lot of potential, but also have a lot of overpaid wasters that need to be cleared out so players that will fit Amorim's vision can be brought in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machado Posted Tuesday at 22:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:32 He is the real deal. If Man United don't get their shit together with Amorim, I would be very worried about the future of that club. He took this Sporting Lisbon team who had not won the league for 20 years and won two of them, leaving them on their way to win a third. It's safe to say he is their best manager ever. Bizarre we didn't give him a job! Benfica fan since he was born and won 10 titles for us as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 10 hours ago, Machado said: He is the real deal. If Man United don't get their shit together with Amorim, I would be very worried about the future of that club. He should be, but he won't be. He won't be allowed to make the changes he wants in order to be a success, I thought that he would be nailed on for City (where he would have the freedom required to keep them winning). Amorim will be coaching with one hand behind his back from INEOS, he already has less power than ETH had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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